4 minutes ago, Transmogrifier said:

What is it about TIE Strikers over the other 34 point options for Empire that the hivemind has been latching onto? I don't own enough Strikers to run a swarm, so I tried 2 Alphas and 2 Barrage Scimitars and that mix of capabilities seemed pretty good?

The turn radius mostly, and the ability to throw 4 red at R1. No stress is nice.

But it doesn't matter that much is my guess. Honestly, Interceptors may be better here.

But Strikers are fun. And Memes.

14 minutes ago, Transmogrifier said:

What is it about TIE Strikers over the other 34 point options for Empire that the hivemind has been latching onto? I don't own enough Strikers to run a swarm, so I tried 2 Alphas and 2 Barrage Scimitars and that mix of capabilities seemed pretty good?

The Strikers are just really fun to use. Probably my favorite ship to move around the table because of AA being "required".

Outside of that they can reposition and focus in one turn without taking a stress, have really good flip moves with the sloop/1k, throw 4 dice at range 1 without range requirements for 3 otherwise, and are fantastic blockers who are harder to predict than most things. They also set up kill boxes really well.

Short Answer: Strikers Are Fun so people are enthusiastic about them.

Without Sloane I cant think of any competitive list I would willingly include the generics in.

7 minutes ago, Transmogrifier said:

What is it about TIE Strikers over the other 34 point options for Empire that the hivemind has been latching onto? I don't own enough Strikers to run a swarm, so I tried 2 Alphas and 2 Barrage Scimitars and that mix of capabilities seemed pretty good?

Couple things -

1) Ability to reposition prior to move without inducing stress

2) 4 health is *slighlty* harder to half point over 3 health alpha

3) They turn around much faster than anything else 1 bank AA + 1 turn = very slippery

4) With tugboats being out there, if they get put on a rock, they can AA off it, do their move and still get an action (I think)

5) They are fast and can block really well

6) Look cool and can take bombs

7) Gotta be different

1 minute ago, viedit said:

2) 4 health is *slighlty* harder to half point over 3 health alpha

They both require 2 hits to get to half points.

Just now, Biophysical said:

They both require 2 hits to get to half points.

Yeah. I was thinking of the brief time the App was rounding weird.

Hey pilots what am I missing?

The new OP Punishers have gotten my 2nd son interested in X-wing! He said we needed an imperial conversion kit now.

When we first started, nearly 3 years ago, my director gave each of my boy a ship for Xmas, one meta-defining (the K-wing) and 2 that will now be (the HWK and the Punisher). I may yet be able to get 2v2 games going at home

It also looks so much better on a medium base. I may need more than 1 now.

20 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Hey pilots what am I missing?

Rebels
Luke	Sabine	Norra / Warden / Kyle	Blount
Luke	Wedge	Norra / Miranda / Kyle	Bid or Support
Big Base Place Holder
Imperials
Vader / GGI	Whisper/Soontir	Lambda / Redline
Whisper	Soontir	Lambda / Redline	Bid or Support
Whisper / Reaper / Lambda	Sloane	Stuff
Jonus	Some Generics	Punisher / Lambda / Ace
Whisper	Soontir	Rexlar
Vader	Rexlar
Phantom	Phantom	Phantom	Phantom
Big Base Place Holder
Scum
Boba	Palob	Old T / 4LOM
Boba	Fenn	Lando / Jumper
Boba	Old T	L337	Jumper
Boba	IG88A	46 Pts
Guri / Fenn	Palob/Kavil	Old T / 4LOM	Bid or Support
Drea	3x Jumper	2x Z95	L337
Big Base Place Holder

Good on you for calling the 'Grand Inquisitor' by his real name, albeit abbreviated- the GRAND GALACTIC INQUISITOR!

57 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Hey pilots what am I missing?

Rebels
Luke	Sabine	Norra / Warden / Kyle	Blount
Luke	Wedge	Norra / Miranda / Kyle	Bid or Support
Big Base Place Holder
Imperials
Vader / GGI	Whisper/Soontir	Lambda / Redline
Whisper	Soontir	Lambda / Redline	Bid or Support
Whisper / Reaper / Lambda	Sloane	Stuff
Jonus	Some Generics	Punisher / Lambda / Ace
Whisper	Soontir	Rexlar
Vader	Rexlar
Phantom	Phantom	Phantom	Phantom
Big Base Place Holder
Scum
Boba	Palob	Old T / 4LOM
Boba	Fenn	Lando / Jumper
Boba	Old T	L337	Jumper
Boba	IG88A	46 Pts
Guri / Fenn	Palob/Kavil	Old T / 4LOM	Bid or Support
Drea	3x Jumper	2x Z95	L337
Big Base Place Holder

You're missing swarms/miniswarms

14 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You're missing swarms/miniswarms

Besides Bomber Mini Swarms, Drea Swarms, & Sloane Swarms, what else is there? Z95 Crack or Homer Swarms? Do people still play Tie Swarms (seems like a dead list)?

Actually I take that back. Iden Swarms still good. Your right.

What's all this love for Sabine? I get she's very fun to play, but isn't she a bit too squishy to be actually good? Obviously she can enter combat with focus evade but in many cases this only means she will soak 2 attacks before bitting the dust, often without even having a chance to shoot.

Isn't she a bit too expansive for just being a "biggs" who can sometimes double as a blocker?

I think there's might be room for a successful 2 ships Rebel lists, it depends on how hard seismic trajectory counters Han and how common they are. Han Solo is the closest 1.0 thing in the game (maybe tied with Boba, but Han ps6 repositioning&arc moving to put him ahead in that particular race) , but he feels fair (or at least that's what my opponents said so far)

8 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Besides Bomber Mini Swarms, Drea Swarms, & Sloane Swarms, what else is there? Z95 Crack or Homer Swarms? Do people still play Tie Swarms (seems like a dead list)?

I think TIE Swarms probably shouldn't be totally written off yet.

8 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

What's all this love for Sabine? I get she's very fun to play, but isn't she a bit too squishy to be actually good? Obviously she can enter combat with focus evade but in many cases this only means she will soak 2 attacks before bitting the dust, often without even having a chance to shoot.

Isn't she a bit too expansive for just being a "biggs" who can sometimes double as a blocker?

She's super cheap for a fast an maneuverable 3 attack ship.

Fixed......is there anyone that knows how to Rebel?

1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:

Boba	Fenn	Lando

I swear I've seen this with Boba/Guri/Lando, but I guess i'm not sure if it's actually won at all

Speaking of Sloane, my one game vs that card had me actively trying to not play the game. 75 minutes of both players flying around waiting for the game to end. The Sloane player refusing to go over the rock field, and then there's me refusing to engage and lose. Tried for some half points here or there but it never worked.

I was so triggered, flashbacks to 1.0 constantly going through my head.

3 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

I swear I've seen this with Boba/Guri/Lando, but I guess i'm not sure if it's actually won at all

Yea im not even looking for necessarily "winning" lists. More interested in defining the X-Wing Pop Culture Meta...since there is a big gap right now between whats "optimal" on paper, and what options people actively pick from when choosing a list.

14 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

What's all this love for Sabine? I get she's very fun to play, but isn't she a bit too squishy to be actually good? Obviously she can enter combat with focus evade but in many cases this only means she will soak 2 attacks before bitting the dust, often without even having a chance to shoot.

Isn't she a bit too expansive for just being a "biggs" who can sometimes double as a blocker?

• Sabine is 38 points
• Init 2 Xwing is 41 points

Totally worth it. Rebel TIE Striker. She can fade though if you mess up... did a miscalculation in my head and ran her through a rock right in front of an enemy ship... Vaped. You don't want to use her as a Biggs really, but if your list is strong, chasing Sabine as though she were Biggs would be a plus in my book.

4 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Yea im not even looking for necessarily "winning" lists. More interested in defining the X-Wing Pop Culture Meta...since there is a big gap right now between whats "optimal" on paper, and what options people actively pick from when choosing a list.

Then where is Thane? He's breaking the internet he's so powerful. You see him everywhere! It's inThane!

36 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Then where is Thane? He's breaking the internet he's so powerful. You see him everywhere! It's inThane!

20 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

What's all this love for Sabine? I get she's very fun to play, but isn't she a bit too squishy to be actually good? Obviously she can enter combat with focus evade but in many cases this only means she will soak 2 attacks before bitting the dust, often without even having a chance to shoot.

Isn't she a bit too expansive for just being a "biggs" who can sometimes double as a blocker?

I think there's might be room for a successful 2 ships Rebel lists, it depends on how hard seismic trajectory counters Han and how common they are. Han Solo is the closest 1.0 thing in the game (maybe tied with Boba, but Han ps6 repositioning&arc moving to put him ahead in that particular race) , but he feels fair (or at least that's what my opponents said so far)

Against anything moving before her, she's a fully on supernatural reflexes ship.

For things moving after, she's still a supernatural ship, and becomes a better blocker.

And she's cheap.

(and she can stack evade/focus when she wants to).


All in all, she's just really good for her points.


She is not a jouster.

Sabine is the best Rebel ship. Her and Supernatural Luke start every Rebel list I make.

Just flank with her and dial 1 banks all day.

49 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

She is not a jouster.

I'm not sure I agree with that. If my opponent wants to shoot my 3 die focus/evade ship that's priced like a Z95 in the opening engagement, I think I'm in?

32 minutes ago, pheaver said:

Just flank with her and dial 1 banks all day.

Right - if the opponent wants to turn their whole list into a 38 point ship, awesome. If they want to turn just one ship into her, she's pretty good at ignoring a shot per turn.

I find a severe flaw in that you are not listing Kavil as the greatest pilot ever.

9 minutes ago, SmittLoaf said:

I find a severe flaw in that you are not listing Kavil as the greatest pilot ever.

Hes in there. Been running that Kavil build since the points dropped with Fenn/Guri. Probably fits with Boba to. It good. Definitely qualifies as part of the pop culture meta.