What's coming next? つ ◕◕ ༽つ Summon New Announcement ! つ ◕◕ ༽つ

By Odanan, in X-Wing

On 12/8/2020 at 6:39 AM, 5050Saint said:

How do the Armada folks find out about their expansions pre-announcement? For X-wing, Lion Rampart Imports lists X-wing releases presumably as soon as they are informed that they will exist, as has been doing so for several waves now. They have Pheonix Cell (Rebel), Skystrike Academy (Imperial), and Fugitives and Collaborators (FO or Scum, maybe ). Does Armada do the same, or did the developers actually say "we have 4 expansions coming down the pipe"?

Interesting. I would have thought Resistance or Scum (based on Kylo’s line in VII), but Resistance just got a squadron pack in Heralds of Hope, so that can’t be it. Perhaps you’re right.

I'm betting scum, because of the Fugitive bit

But I'm betting FO because of the collaborators bit and faction balance to HoH.

As c3p0 says: I'm so confused! 😂

12 hours ago, Ebak said:

This dripfeed of information from AMG is not enough and, in my humble opinion, they should be embarrassed that they've all (FFG, AMG and Asmodee) botched the handover with having NOTHING to show. A very strong opinion, but one can not doubt alot of this negativity around the crossover wouldn't have been as bad without more actual tenable information. Interviews are promises made of glass, transparent, nothing much to see, and easily broken. Actually coming out and saying "Here's the new wave, and check out the article over at AMG!" would have inspired a feeling of passing the torch.

While I am no fan of not having more information, saying that they have botched the handover is a bit intense. It hasn't been a month since the announcement of the transfer, just over two weeks since AMG made their organized play announcement, and two weeks since the latest FFG X-Wing article. I want to know more, but this negative verdict on the handover is spurious at this point. It rings of the doom-saying about the game during early to mid-2020 where folks where like "FFG has abandoned us" when the lack of content was just because a worldwide pandemic going on.

Again, I am all in favor of the "Here's the new wave, and check out the article over at AMG!" to instill consumer confidence, but wait at least a month from the handover announcement to neg it.

11 hours ago, Rmcarrier1 said:

I would have thought Resistance or Scum (based on Kylo’s line in VII), but Resistance just got a squadron pack in Heralds of Hope, so that can’t be it. Perhaps you’re right.

I really want it to be a Scum pack, but after specifically name dropping Rebels and Imperials as ace pack recipients, Max Brooke throws out that maybe an ace pack is based around a certain FO organization. It's on the Adepticon 2020 Panel stream here: https://youtu.be/lR1GcsGvi7Y?t=2288

My hope is that it is Scum, but my fear is that it will be FO. They already got the TIE/ba and the Xi shuttle this year so I don't think it is necessary since the only new release that Scum got since Wave 2 is the three pilots from Hotshots and Aces.

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Ships the need more pilots

  1. Rebel RZ-1 A-Wing
  2. TIE Interceptor

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783. Everything else

3 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

Ships the need more pilots

  1. Rebel RZ-1 A-Wing
  2. TIE Interceptor

Yes. That's why we need those leaked Squadron Packs to be true.

11 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

Ships the need more pilots

  1. Rebel RZ-1 A-Wing
  2. TIE Interceptor

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783. Everything else

1. Resistance RZ-2 A-Wing

Clearly this ship does not have enough i5 pilots. 😄

But in all seriousness, those 2 are the ones that likely need it the most.

28 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

1. Resistance RZ-2 A-Wing

Clearly this ship does not have enough i5 pilots. 😄

But in all seriousness, those 2 are the ones that likely need it the most.

Probably a good thing FFG is passing the torch to AMG. At the current pace, the Resistance A-Wing would end up with an I6 pilot that was 5 points cheaper than the generic by 2023.

49 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

Ships the need more pilots

  1. Rebel RZ-1 A-Wing
  2. TIE Interceptor

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783. Everything else

There's a few other ships that could do with extra pilots, e.g. the E-Wing, but until they are reprinted, there is 0 chance of getting new pilots.

The A-Wing in particular needs a couple of high initiative aces.

I think I might even be OK with an I6 Rebel A-Wing if the pilot ability synergizes only with primary attacks. Prockets makes I6 a bit scary.

What is FFG waiting for to inform of the upcoming squadron packs ?

Maybe the finale of Mandalorian ? Some stuff from it ?

3 hours ago, Silver_leader said:

What is FFG waiting for to inform of the upcoming squadron packs ?

Maybe the finale of Mandalorian ? Some stuff from it ?

Who didn't search in the new squad builder for Grogu and Razor Crest ?

14 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

My hope is that it is Scum, but my fear is that it will be FO. They already got the TIE/ba and the Xi shuttle this year so I don't think it is necessary since the only new release that Scum got since Wave 2 is the three pilots from Hotshots and Aces.

Whoa there! Scum also just got what look to be some pretty awesome upgrades in the Jango Fett’s Slave 1 expansion, and Scum as a faction wasn’t exactly hurting for viable options before that. On top of that, we’re fresh off of some major points reductions for a lot of really interesting Scum pieces, and they’re almost certainly going to be getting a decent boost within the year, when the Razor Crest is released. All this, not to mention that the Scum faction has 19 (!) different frames to choose from, with a wide variety of initiatives, near-exclusive access to an entire class of upgrades, and a huge toolbox of ships which can fill out any list at nearly any price point.

By contrast, the First Order have the smallest number of available frames to build with (only 6), and while they do have some interesting mechanics and some of the game’s most nimble ships, there’s also a lot of crossover and redundancy between their various platforms. They play the Ace game well, and they have a couple of decent Swarm plans, but there are entire swaths of the game from which they’re almost totally locked out (do they even bomb, bruh?)

All that said, for pure fun, the First Order might be my favorite faction. But MAN do they need some more options. Even if it’s just some new pilots on old platforms, I really hope they’re the titular Fugitives and Collaborators.

And I also hope we very shortly get the Knights of Ren’s Night Buzzard, the First Order Troop Transport, the TIE Whisper, TIE Whisper Interceptor variant, the TIE Dagger, and the First Order Bomber.

Next year really ought to be about fleshing out the Resistance and First Order above all else. They just need more ships, and there’s easily enough already-produced material to make certain each faction has at least ten ships.

12 hours ago, Silver_leader said:

What is FFG waiting for to inform of the upcoming squadron packs?

...if only there was some big holiday this month, some traditional event where they could present news as a gift for the players. Something that would be in keeping with the spirit of the season .

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...nope, can't think of anything...

Ship frames per faction

Galactic Republic x8 ships (6 small, 2 medium, 0 large) (1 epic)

Separatists x8 ships (6 small, 1 medium, 1 large) (1 epic)

Galactic Empire x15 ships (10 small, 3 medium, 2 large) (2 epic)

Rebel Alliance x17 ships (11 small, 3 medium, 3 large) (2 epic)

Scum x19 ships (10 small, 5 medium, 4 large) (1 epic)

First Order x6 ships (4 small, 1 medium, 1 large) (2 epic)

Resistance x7 ships (5 small, 0 medium, 2 large) (1 epic)

Judging by these numbers, I’d say Republic will end up getting a shuttle and something else, Seppies will surely get Sheathipede and something else. I’d say GR and Seppies will most likely get another epic ship also. OT factions will most likely get card packs for existing ships and Scum may get another epic. First Order will surely get FO bomber, Whisper interceptor and Night Buzzard. Resistance will likely end up with at least one medium ship (depending on how big they make the T-85), and a couple of other ships (possibly another epic).

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1 hour ago, Sm00thB0r3 said:

Ship frames per faction

Galactic Republic x8 ships (6 small, 2 medium, 0 large) (1 epic)

Separatists x8 ships (6 small, 1 medium, 1 large) (1 epic)

Galactic Empire x15 ships (10 small, 3 medium, 2 large) (2 epic)

Rebel Alliance x17 ships (11 small, 3 medium, 3 large) (2 epic)

Scum x19 ships (10 small, 5 medium, 4 large) (1 epic)

First Order x6 ships (4 small, 1 medium, 1 large) (2 epic)

Resistance x7 ships (5 small, 0 medium, 2 large) (1 epic)

Judging by these numbers, I’d say Republic will end up getting a shuttle and something else, Seppies will surely get Sheathipede and something else. I’d say GR and Seppies will most likely get another epic ship also. OT factions will most likely get card packs for existing ships and Scum may get another epic. First Order will surely get FO bomber, Whisper interceptor and Night Buzzard. Resistance will likely end up with at least one medium ship (depending on how big they make the T-85), and a couple of other ships (possibly another epic).

This is very good.

My guesses for 2021/2022 are:

  • Republic : [Large] Theta-class Shuttle or J-type Star Skiff ; [Small] Clone Z-95
  • CIS : [Medium?] Rogue-class Starfighter (it's a little larger than the TIE Heavy); [Small] Sheathipede (obviously)
  • Rebels : Squadron Pack (A-wings + B-wing)
  • Empire : Squadron Pack (TIE Interceptors + TIE Defender); [Large?] Delta-class Shuttle (would this ship even fit on the table?)
  • Scum : [Medium] Razor Crest (really, this is the most requested ship right now)
  • Resistance: [Small] BTA-NR2 Y-wing ; [Medium?] T-85 X-wing (it's larger than the TIE Heavy)
  • FO: [Medium?] FO TIE Bomber ; [Large] Oubliette-class transport ; [Small] TIE Dagger

If there are new Epic releases soon, I expect the Consular-class or the Hammerhead Corvette to come first (both are Republic/Rebels).

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1 hour ago, Odanan said:

This is very good.

My guesses for 2021/2022 are:

  • Republic : [Large] Theta-class Shuttle or J-type Star Skiff ; [Small] Clone Z-95
  • CIS : [Medium?] Rogue-class Starfighter (it's a little larger than the TIE Heavy); [Small] Sheathipede (obviously)
  • Rebels : Squadron Pack (A-wings + B-wing)
  • Empire : Squadron Pack (TIE Interceptors + TIE Defender); [Large?] Delta-class Shuttle (would this ship even fit on the table?)
  • Scum : [Medium] Razor Crest (really, this is the most requested ship right now)
  • Resistance: [Small] BTA-NR2 Y-wing ; [Medium?] T-85 X-wing (it's larger than the TIE Heavy)
  • FO: [Medium?] FO TIE Bomber ; [Large] Oubliette-class transport ; [Small] TIE Dagger

If there are new Epic releases soon, I expect the Consular-class or the Hammerhead Corvette to come first (both are Republic/Rebels).

All these ships seems very intersting (except for BTA-NR2 Y-wing because we did not see it in the movies ans it would be the third Ywing so not very surprising)

And I have a big table so yes I would love a Delta-class Shuttle

I will add my guesses :

  • Republic : [Small] V19 Expansion Pack with a single ship and new pilots (will be useful wit the Jedi Commander card in ETA2 Actis pack), Somenthing about Bad Batch
  • Resistance: [Small] Colossus Aces Squadron Pack : Yellow Ace, Red Ace, Green Ace, Blue Ace, Black Ace, they could give us very original ships
  • First Order [Small, Medium] Jinatra Security Pack : pilots for Naboo N-1 starfighter (with a bomb slot), ARC-170 starfighters, V-wing starfighters and Lambda-class T-4a shuttles

Maybe we could have a new Hotshots and Aces Reinforcements Pack with pilots from recents series, video games or comics for already released ships

  • Rebels : Jyn Erso (as crew) (for people without conversion kit), Ahsoka Tano (as crew), Iden Versio (as an X wing pilot), Cal Kestis (as crew), Cere Junda (as crew allowing use dark side cards)
  • Empire : Juno Eclipse (Tie X1 pilot), Ciena Ree (Tie Ln pilot), Ninth Sister (Tie Reaper pilot), Second Sister, Trilla Suduri (as crew or pilot), Seyn Marana (as crew using her eidetic memory and her cryptologist and intelligence skills), Amiral Thrawn (as comandant for huge ships)
  • Scums : Doctor Aphra (as crew) (or imperial with dark Vador), Magna Tolvan (as crew) (Or Imperial), Nightsister Merrin (as crew allowing some sort of cloak) (could be used as rebel with Cal Kestis)
  • Resistance : Iden Versio (as an X wing pilot and as a Raider pilot for resistance), Zay Versio (as an X wing pilot)

For Epics I hope New titles for huge ships (for ships/faction without titles including Corvus as a rebel or resistance ship)

And why not a surprise with these so called "structures"

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41 minutes ago, blueAngelIden said:

All these ships seems very intersting (except for BTA-NR2 Y-wing because we did not see it in the movies FALSE ans it would be the third Ywing so not very surprising interesting TRUE )

11 hours ago, Cpt ObVus said:

All this, not to mention that the Scum faction has 19 (!) different frames to choose from, with a wide variety of initiatives, near-exclusive access to an entire class of upgrades, and a huge toolbox of ships which can fill out any list at nearly any price point.

19 different frames is a valid point, but these squad packs going to be rerelease of already available ships. FO have an average of 6.5 pilots per chassis, while Scum have 4.5 per. If you want FO to get more chassis, that is totally cool and I am with you on that, but do they really need more pilots for the FO (12!) , SF (6), VN (7), Upsilon (6!), or Xi(4)? Only the TIE/ba seems a decent candidate for getting new pilots.

Also, I take exception to that "near exclusive access" on the illicit. Only two factions do not have access the illicit slot. They do have more chassis that can use it than any other faction, but it seems fair to point out that 1/3 of Scum ships cannot take illicits. FO can have illicits on 1/2 of their ships by comparison. I'm not saying that this isn't a boon for Scum, but just that "near-exclusive" is a bit off.

1 hour ago, blueAngelIden said:

except for BTA-NR2 Y-wing because we did not see it in the movies

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She is there and with named pilots.

At the end of this video, there is a concept art of Cassian Andor in a ship . Looks like A-wing, but that side engine is not matching. New ship? (Rebels need it)

PS: oh, I wish it was the planned (and later scrapped) D-wing...

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Anyway, even if it's an A-wing, we get ourselves another pilot, for a future Hotshots & Aces.

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

At the end of this video, there is a concept art of Cassian Andor in a ship . Looks like A-wing, but that side engine is not matching. New ship? (Rebels need it)

PS: oh, I wish it was the planned (and later scrapped) D-wing...

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Anyway, even if it's an A-wing, we get ourselves another pilot, for a future Hotshots & Aces.

That gives me hope we might get:

a) a new Rebel release for the first time in 2.0

b) a 3 green ship with potentially 3 reds as that's a lot of guns on the front.

6 hours ago, Odanan said:

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She is there and with named pilots.

Sorry, I forgot them

10 hours ago, Odanan said:
  • Republic : [Large] Theta-class Shuttle or J-type Star Skiff ; [Small] Clone Z-95

J-type please.

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A nice, shiny big chrome brother for all those Naboo bananas out there to escort around.

8 hours ago, Odanan said:

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She is there and with named pilots.

If only the effects shots were allowed to breath a bit longer... the ILM demo reels of Exegol have a completely different feel to them than the film itself.