Somewhat-OT: That new "Rebels" TV series is looking so AWFUL it pains me to think we'll be getting ships from it

By xanderf, in X-Wing

It looks like, and is, a kids show. It doesn't interest me in the same way that every other kid show does not interest me. If I had kids, I might enjoy watching this with them.

Good for what it is, but probably not interesting to most older people except for the subset that likes watching kids cartoons. (which I'm guessing is overrepresented among gamers). I have a hard time feeling disappointed, it's exactly what I expected and I don't think it ever pretended to be otherwise.

As an "older people", I'm not expecting it to move me deeply. I am hoping it will be a fun activity for my niece and I to enjoy together, with a few things here and there I can appreciate.

...I mean, the mind-boggling level of incompetence of the stormtroopers is just beyond words. And nearly worse is the comically detached attitude of the main character - he's being shot at and has all the emotional involvement in his own LIFE as someone playing a video game...

Oh, I dunno, maybe having any random non-Jedi main character from the series able to take out an entire platoon of Storm Troopers without breaking a sweat or even being mildly inconvenienced by it.

lol what.

Have you ever seen Star Wars?

Allow me;

Edited by Introverdant

Agree with OP - this may have all the trappings of Star Wars, but the tone of it seems to fall in line with the gradual decline the franchise has experienced since Empire Strikes Back.

And the issue with that is what? He'd just killed several Stormtroopers... pretty sure the pilot wouldn't have been reprimanded for not taking him alive.

You don't understand anything anything about Insurgencies do you? You try to apprehend people like this, and find out what they're doing and why.

Then why didn't he stun him or shoot him in he leg during the massive amount of time he was stood completely still in front of him, out of combat range, when the guy was pointing the gun right at him?

Stop making excuses for it being weak.

Tarkin let them go, there is no evidence every Storm trooper was in on it.

So, were they just letting 3 foot tall pooh bears kill them with rocks and twigs so the emperor could be killed? All just part of the plan?

I recall that being some if the emperors best troops as well, as he had them waiting for the rebels.

They showed one Ewok death and I think we can safely assume that hundreds more died off-screen but couldn't be shown since a teddy-bear genocide would've raised the film's cert somewhat.

That's pretty cringeworthy. I guess its aimed at kids, but it looks like the empire has put battle droids into storm trooper armour. Imperial pilots would shoot alien freaks first, then call for reinforcements.

And the issue with that is what? He'd just killed several Stormtroopers... pretty sure the pilot wouldn't have been reprimanded for not taking him alive.

You don't understand anything anything about Insurgencies do you? You try to apprehend people like this, and find out what they're doing and why.

Then why didn't he stun him or shoot him in he leg during the massive amount of time he was stood completely still in front of him, out of combat range, when the guy was pointing the gun right at him?

Stop making excuses for it being weak.

I know it's so stupid the pilot would of shot him in the back then called it in.

If clowns like this can defeat the Empire why did there need to be a rebel alliance? Surely the big bad empire was so incompetent anyone could beat up an elite storm trooper and steal his lunch money.

And when the world is full of Nathan Drakes ...I have no idea where to go with that it is 5:30 here and my insomnia sucks *L*

As long as the troopers are better than the battledroids. They were the least threatening force i have ever seen in a SF movie. Gungans beat them by accident so imagine what a dedicated force like an Ewok drop squad could do.

how about we look at it like this,

remember how EU was dropped as cannon?

all that awesome stuff no longer cannon?

now this? im guessing this will be cannon

that's what bothers me, this is why I was afraid of Disney taking this over. this kind of action is suitable for droids or ewoks shows. they were a lighter side of things.

this shows premise is a rebellion where 1 side was trying to obliterate the rag tag group defying them.

I usually like anything star wars, I do hope these are just character introducing shorts.

but I do believe this will not be what most of us want it to be, I serious star wars TV show with the episode 3-7 feel. yes I included episode 3 because it was the best of the prequels and was dark.

I literally cannot work out what you guys want this to be?

Every film in the history of films that has a hero being shot at is filled with useless goons that cannot hit them for **** this includes the ORIGINAL Star Wars trilogy. As people have already pointed out, Fracking Ewoks beat the emperors best men with rocks and logs.

There's absolutely no need to try and justify why these guys didn't shoot and kill one of the main heroes of the show, the reason is BECAUSE he's IS one of the main heroes of the show.

Do you want the children's cartoon to have all the main characters get shot and killed in the first episode? Do you want them to never come up against a single storm trooper becasue it wouldn't be realistic?

I don't understand.

But the pilot could of shot and missed, standing there talking was moronic.

And you can't be heroes if the people your beating up are not a viable threat, beating up people who can't fight back effectively is called bullying.

So by making the Empire so clownish your turning the heroes into thugs picking on the kid from the special class.

the three minutes of rebels i've seen in a short clip of a dogfight looks better than everything in EP1-3 put together to be honest....

ok,

so I just went to the rebels web site and watched several videos.

those looked 100% better than these 2.

ohh. and 1 of them showed 3 gozonti cruisers in 1 scene.

also 1 scene showed 1 of them next to a victory star destroyer

(imp huge ship 98% in my eyes)

That isnt too challenging though is it *L* But heres hoping. My favourite TV shows growing up were UFO and Blakes 7 and one of my favourites now is Spooks. So yes, I say kill off some main characters.

@Gosric

you working on a imperial huge at all?

But the pilot could of shot and missed, standing there talking was moronic.

And you can't be heroes if the people your beating up are not a viable threat, beating up people who can't fight back effectively is called bullying.

Seriously, who just shoots someone because they've ran up to you?

To me these guys seem like they are a bunch of bullies, used to people being compliant and scared and not really coming up against any resistance.

I doubt it's the empires policy to just shoot people because they've bashed 2 troopers heads together? They obviously would want to arrest him not gun him down, and when you are pointing a gun at someone you tend to think they are going to do what you tell them, when they don't and you aren't willing to pull the trigger you are left with little options, especially against a guy that is clearly very physically strong and well trained with his shiny stick.

Regardless of all that there's absolutely no need to justify it in a kids show, they aren't going to have him gunned down.

*sigh* after he was knocked over and picked up the blaster was when he should of shot the violent criminal, he had reasonable cause.

And those two troopers were arresting a criminal for selling deathsticks to younglings, your hero ensured he'd carry on doing that and six months from then a bad batch kills 1400.

Or does the fact he's a wise cracking bad ass excuse attacking honest people just doing their jobs, you have no proof any of those soldiers ever did anything worth getting attacked for.

I have a couple on shapeways already that are the traditional wedge type ships but the larger one is waiting for me to get the separate gun packs set up which i have almost done. Im also doing an Assassin class corvette that is close to done and a Corvan Corvette but the Corvan would not be Imperial.

I had started work on a Gozanti but scrapped it because i thought that was probably going to be the next huge release but i might complete it now. Other than that i dont really have any huge ships planned. Im probably going to stick to fighters and small ships and leave the giants to those who use downloadable files, That takes a lot less time than doing it from scratch , especially when one i as detail obsessed as i tend to be *L* and then i can make more small ships and upgrade some of my smaller Starship Battles scale ships for Armada

But the pilot could of shot and missed, standing there talking was moronic.

And you can't be heroes if the people your beating up are not a viable threat, beating up people who can't fight back effectively is called bullying.

Seriously, who just shoots someone because they've ran up to you?

To me these guys seem like they are a bunch of bullies, used to people being compliant and scared and not really coming up against any resistance.

I doubt it's the empires policy to just shoot people because they've bashed 2 troopers heads together? They obviously would want to arrest him not gun him down, and when you are pointing a gun at someone you tend to think they are going to do what you tell them, when they don't and you aren't willing to pull the trigger you are left with little options, especially against a guy that is clearly very physically strong and well trained with his shiny stick.

Regardless of all that there's absolutely no need to justify it in a kids show, they aren't going to have him gunned down.

*sigh* after he was knocked over and picked up the blaster was when he should of shot the violent criminal, he had reasonable cause.

And those two troopers were arresting a criminal for selling deathsticks to younglings, your hero ensured he'd carry on doing that and six months from then a bad batch kills 1400.

Or does the fact he's a wise cracking bad ass excuse attacking honest people just doing their jobs, you have no proof any of those soldiers ever did anything worth getting attacked for.

Why do you people insist on getting your panties into a twist over this? Panties are SO MUCH MORE comfortable when worn correctly.

Yes, Luke killed 100,000 + people in the Deathstar attack. Yes, Han Solo was most probably involved in the drugs trade. GET OVER IT. The OT was heavily inspired by WW2 - think of the death star attack as synonymous with Hiroshima. Massive casualties, but necessary. (Except the star wars version is actually LESS morally difficult, as I doubt there were children on the Death Star).

And in regards to the tired "average joe stormtrooper" argument: Even if you do not personally take part in the atrocities committed by your government, you still share responsibility if by your actions you aid their continued evil, instead of resisting it. Google Adolf Eichmann.

But the pilot could of shot and missed, standing there talking was moronic.

And you can't be heroes if the people your beating up are not a viable threat, beating up people who can't fight back effectively is called bullying.

Seriously, who just shoots someone because they've ran up to you?

To me these guys seem like they are a bunch of bullies, used to people being compliant and scared and not really coming up against any resistance.

I doubt it's the empires policy to just shoot people because they've bashed 2 troopers heads together? They obviously would want to arrest him not gun him down, and when you are pointing a gun at someone you tend to think they are going to do what you tell them, when they don't and you aren't willing to pull the trigger you are left with little options, especially against a guy that is clearly very physically strong and well trained with his shiny stick.

Regardless of all that there's absolutely no need to justify it in a kids show, they aren't going to have him gunned down.

*sigh* after he was knocked over and picked up the blaster was when he should of shot the violent criminal, he had reasonable cause.

And those two troopers were arresting a criminal for selling deathsticks to younglings, your hero ensured he'd carry on doing that and six months from then a bad batch kills 1400.

Or does the fact he's a wise cracking bad ass excuse attacking honest people just doing their jobs, you have no proof any of those soldiers ever did anything worth getting attacked for.

Why do you people insist on getting your panties into a twist over this? Panties are SO MUCH MORE comfortable when worn correctly.

Yes, Luke killed 100,000 + people in the Deathstar attack. Yes, Han Solo was most probably involved in the drugs trade. GET OVER IT. The OT was heavily inspired by WW2 - think of the death star attack as synonymous with Hiroshima. Massive casualties, but necessary. (Except the star wars version is actually LESS morally difficult, as I doubt there were children on the Death Star).

And in regards to the tired "average joe stormtrooper" argument: Even if you do not personally take part in the atrocities committed by your government, you still share responsibility if by your actions you aid their continued evil, instead of resisting it. Google Adolf Eichmann.

So because some American soldiers comit war crimes that makes all of the armed forces guilty?

You sure you want that to be your line of argument.

Yay, let's apply real world morality to Star Wars...

Come on. This is Star Wars. Stormtroopers = bad guys. This isn't rocket science people.

Lots of people think America's military is evil is it that clear cut, of course not.

The Nazis accused all Jews of being evil and we know how that turned out.

Absolutes are bad and no one should think in those terms, you'd think people would of learned from that whole civil rights movement that's been going on a while now.

Show looks worse every time I watch another part of it on YouTube. I completely agree with the OP. Fair enough, make it a kids show, but don't make it stupid.

So... Should have been arrested and locked up and....the end?

Or what? What isn't stupid, should there have just been one Storm Trooper so it was easy for him?

A few less Stormtroopers perhaps. Or a more enclosed space so his close combat would be more effective than their blasters. But mostly just not had the pilot stood staring at him with a gun in his hand on the radio for 5x longer than it would take to shoot him when he's STOOD STILL RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.

I get it that Stormtroopers have never been great, but that's no reason to decrease their competence even more. The guy could've been stood completely still, unarmed, in the open, and the Stormtroopers in this video STILL wouldn't have been able to hit him. When they're that bad, the whole thing just becomes a joke. Even kids deserve better than this.

Troopers seemed pretty bad ass during the battle at echo base. rebels were running for the hills.

But, this isn't the real world. THIS IS STAR WARS. You need to explain why the simplistic morality as found in the OT is wrong for the types of stories they may be telling.

So you oppose the general Good vs Evil presentation of the OT?

But, this isn't the real world. THIS IS STAR WARS. You need to explain why the simplistic morality as found in the OT is wrong for the types of stories they may be telling.

I think i already did.

Any person that posts that adults should have no opinions about this new star wars should really stop playing x-wing and certainly stop having any opinions about the game.