But isn't that basically what we have already? I don't see how your suggestion would be any different. No one is forced to buy or play with the S&V ships. The game is about as modular as it can be; as in, no one ship is required. You're free to customise your force any way you like with whatever ships you like (within the factions of course). It is no way required that you buy anything from S&V in order to play the game. And if your argument is that you will end up having to play against people using S&V, how would your way be any different? Surely those same people would want to use the S&V 'module', so therefore you'd be in the exact same situation.

Note: Not trying to troll or harshly criticise; I just can't see how your suggestion is different from what we have already.

*sigh*

No, nobody is forcing me to play the game. But they are forcing me to interact with elements of the game that I'd rather not. Even if I choose not to purchase the new ships (and I won't even bother addressing the issue of missing out on certain upgrades), I can't realistically stop my opponents from fielding them.

And it seems a bit silly to say you will be forced to interact with aspect you don't like. Fair enough if they were broken or just flat out stupid, like my-little-ponies instead of fighters or whatever, but S&V is clearly a fully integrated part of the huge Star Wars lore. What if I didn't like TIE Interceptors for some reason? Would it be reasonable of me to ask that my opponents don't field them because somehow it negatively affects my experience? That would be entirely unfair, and more to the point, I don't see how it could. If you really dislike S&V, then take pleasure in blowing them up every time you end up playing them.

Haven't we already settled this, you don't need the upgrade cards you want them you can play without them and win.

And you can just buy them for a quid if you feel the desperate need, sure your paying over the odds for printed card board but the options there.

As someone else noted upthread, there are exactly two ship releases from Galaxies. You could call it Shadows of the Empire Miniatures with as much justification.

In fact they've been pretty diverse in their EU sources, although they are skewed toward video games and comics--probably because it gives them concrete visual representations on which to base their modeling work.

I know, I know! It was a generalization intended to make a point, not invoke a rash of semantic corrections. This is the internet, so I suppose I should have known better. Star Wars: Bunches O' Stuff That Wasn't In The Original Trilogy just didn't have the same ring to it.

Also people that don't play GW games think your picture is a troll, which makes it worse. I figure having Starbuck as my picture might confuse people in to begin nice to me.

So... you are a guy pretending to be a girl who should of been a guy.

Posts like this are why women avoid hobby gaming, and I'm not kidding. You realize how blatantly sexist this is, right?

It was a response to a funny commit, and a statement about the irony of the Star Buck Avatar...

Who asked you anyhow?!

Posts like this are why women avoid hobby gaming, and I'm not kidding. You realize how blatantly sexist this is, right?

Are you talking to me?

I'm too scared to talk to women so I doubt that I've managed to make them not play x-wing.

No it is one of his know-it-all smarty jabs at me.

:lol:

Adding Scum ships does not make this a Galaxies sourced game. If it was, well, it wouldn't be pretty...

Thought we couldn't come up with even weirder ships?

YOU THOUGHT WRONG

Imperial Star Fighter Development Division

Sticking More Wings on TIE Fighters Since 1994

I'm really excited about flying Boba with a couple of hired Y-Wing mercs.

Waaarg I don't understand your attitude to not wanting to play against them, weather you play the Imperials cleaning up more of the galaxy's scum, or Rebels defending their weapons caches from raiding parties, this will just add some new theme to the game.

I do respect your feelings on it, and I think it's a shame you won't be able to enjoy the game any-more, but you weren't singled out or targeted by the game designers, I think your specific perspective is a minority, and it's unfortunate you can't play the game any-more, but this wasn't a poor decision on the designers part, it's awesome and it's a shame you won't get to experience that.

Maybe Armada is a good shout for you?

Do you have a firespray to sell if you are quitting?

I honestly haven't decided what I'm going to do. I'm not inclined to be impulsive, especially with a game that I've been enjoying and playing this entire past year. I also reserve the right to change my mind, so who knows what will happen. Right now I'm in "wait and see" mode, but the recent announcements have really been deflating. Rebel Aces and wave 5 are no longer automatic purchases for me.

And people can say what they want, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way. I'm just the most outspoken of them.

Adding Scum ships does not make this a Galaxies sourced game. If it was, well, it wouldn't be pretty...

Thought we couldn't come up with even weirder ships?

YOU THOUGHT WRONG

Imperial Star Fighter Development Division

Sticking More Wings on TIE Fighters Since 1994

Never say never. Let the recent announcements be a lesson to all of us.

YUP...

Most Wanted pack is $40

...

*makes a running jump for the WonderWaaagh boat*

It seems odd to me that someone can be a Star Wars fan and not be excited by more Star Wars stuff. Like, if you care enough about Star Wars to want to play a Star Wars miniatures game, why would you not want to have more ships and stuff? As long as it is true to Star Wars canon and fits in with the rest of the universe and the theme of the game, what's not to love? The game would get incredibly dull if it was just X-Wings and Y-Wings vs TIE Fighters and the TIE Advanced.

It seems odd to me that someone can be a Star Wars fan and not be excited by more Star Wars stuff. Like, if you care enough about Star Wars to want to play a Star Wars miniatures game, why would you not want to have more ships and stuff? As long as it is true to Star Wars canon and fits in with the rest of the universe and the theme of the game, what's not to love? The game would get incredibly dull if it was just X-Wings and Y-Wings vs TIE Fighters and the TIE Advanced.

There are plenty of things that Star Wars fans don't like about Star Wars. Let's just all be thankful that Jar Jar isn't in the game... yet.

As long as it is true to Star Wars canon and fits in with the rest of the universe and the theme of the game, what's not to love?

Some people don't think it does. The beauty of this game is that it's balanced. If you don't want to use Defenders and Phantoms or if you don't want to use Scum, you don't have to.

Most Wanted pack is $40

...

*makes a running jump for the WonderWaaagh boat*

have you seen what you get n that box dude?

Three $10 ships is what I get in that box. Some extra cardboard ain't worth another $10.

It seems odd to me that someone can be a Star Wars fan and not be excited by more Star Wars stuff. Like, if you care enough about Star Wars to want to play a Star Wars miniatures game, why would you not want to have more ships and stuff? As long as it is true to Star Wars canon and fits in with the rest of the universe and the theme of the game, what's not to love? The game would get incredibly dull if it was just X-Wings and Y-Wings vs TIE Fighters and the TIE Advanced.

There are plenty of things that Star Wars fans don't like about Star Wars. Let's just all be thankful that Jar Jar isn't in the game... yet.

Point taken, although I doubt we'll be seeing him any time soon. I'm pretty certain any PT stuff would be done separately, aka your earlier talk of modules. There it would make sense, whereas for S&V it is the same time period, so it makes sense to have it part of the same game. And I don't really think that you can compare any of the S&V stuff to Jar Jar. I was just making a general point that more Star Wars stuff should be good news for a Star Wars fan. Even if you don't particularly like the look of one ship or something, saying that it's existence spoils the game to the point of considering quitting seems like a huge overreaction.

Three $10 ships is what I get in that box. Some extra cardboard ain't worth another $10.

You think that while single ship go for 33% off, the box will somehow stay at full price?

Most Wanted pack is $40

...

*makes a running jump for the WonderWaaagh boat*

have you seen what you get n that box dude?

Three $10 ships is what I get in that box. Some extra cardboard ain't worth another $10.

Really? Have you seen how much cardboard you get? $10 isn't much at all. And in truth, these ships probably cost pennies to make each.

UK here. I'm using dollars in my posts because I neither want to convert nor want to make everyone else convert back.

*jabs hornet's nest again*

Decimator cost was amped up because of the extra plastic. This costs even more than the Decimator and has a lot less in the plastic department. I could see it costing the same as the Decimator (it looks like a Decimator sized box) but not even more.

UK here. I'm using dollars in my posts because I neither want to convert nor want to make everyone else convert back.

I'm UK too We get it worse over here. £12 for a ship as opposed to $10? That's like twice the price. Which makes it even more clear that $10 is definitely worth it considering how many pilot and upgrade cards you get.

Not me, I am excited enough to maybe trim down my Empire fleet and playtime a bit.

ok, who votes tha waaagh stops plaing xwing so we don't have to deal with his crap anymore?

(raises hand)

Wow. It actually is as well. I think

UK here. I'm using dollars in my posts because I neither want to convert nor want to make everyone else convert back.

I'm UK too We get it worse over here. £12 for a ship as opposed to $10? That's like twice the price. Which makes it even more clear that $10 is definitely worth it considering how many pilot and upgrade cards you get.

Wow, it actually is as well. Even from the place I get them from (which does them for £10) -

WAIT.

My maths is off. US ships cost $15 RRP, don't they? This $10 thing is Miniature Market...

All these posts make sense now.

Everyone ignore me. I'm off to the corner of shame.

ok, who votes tha waaagh stops plaing xwing so we don't have to deal with his crap anymore?

(raises hand)

Do you need some attention or something?

for those of us who have played other game systems, do you purchase every army available?

do you have factions you just hate to play against but your buddy loves it?

do you refuse to play that army like an ass?

do you play and try to have fun so your friend can enjoy the game as well?

do you want things your way so only you enjoy something?

do you feel like you always have to win and have a tantrum if you lose?

really think about your answers to these questions and you will have an idea of the type of gamer and person you really are.

I'm still not thrilled with a third faction.

But, I am quite impressed with the design decisions they've made with the ships.

My maths is off. US ships cost $15 RRP, don't they...

All these posts make sense now.

MSRP is $15 but normally available on-line at $10 i think.

Yeah whereas in the UK we pay 11-12 ish on-line. I got a HWK yesterday for £9.50 on the dice shop though,

There's this place in Oxford that does them for £10 (which is still more than US RRP) and the bigger boxes for £20. Better but I wonder what the cause of that sizable disparity is. Shipping, maybe.