1 minute ago, LagJanson said:

Well, torpedoes were identified as being good prior to this... so it really shouldn't have been a surprise. Tells me I'm still list building wrong though since I seem to have misplaced all my torpedoes...

If we're being honest, you should bring torpedoes because the bulk of people are just going to let you (like old gunboats).

If we're being meme-y, you should bring them because they're clearly the best thing in the game right now, as evidenced by the results of a single tournament with weird list-building restrictions.

Boba Pilot confirmed bad: no torpedo slot.

My only "meta" take away from Coruscant is that players at any level avoid bringing 5+ ship lists.

2 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Boba Pilot confirmed bad: no torpedo slot.

Not a single person took him to Coruscant. Must be terrible.

3 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Boba Pilot confirmed bad: no torpedo slot.

Slave 1 is clearly the best title, because it gives you a torp slot!

1 minute ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Slave 1 is clearly the best title, because it gives you a torp slot!

Oh man, I didn’t know that!

Boba’s back on the menu, boys!

21 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

Top 16:

• Fenn Palob Teroch
• Fenn Palob 4Lom
• Fenn Palob Guri
• Redline Whisper Vermeil
• Redline Deathrain Jonus Rhymer
• Whisper Sai Vermeil
• Luke Sabine + 2 Xs
• Luke Miranda Sabine

21 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

Top 16:

• Luke Miranda Sabine

21 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

• Miranda

*table flip*

8 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

I don't like it. It's a 200 point ace without the reliability that made the archetype strong in the previous edition.

Basically once you lose whisper you are donezo and it's not that impossible to lose Whisper early on

It's probably not the greatest list in the world, but it looks fun to fly and competitive. I would take it to a hyperspace thingy and have a decent expectation of doing well.

9 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

except for all those 3 dice attack it slings.

And the lambda's back arc.

I think things are just different (though I, too, don't prefer a '100 pt ace').

Duncan himself conceded after losing Whisper with little damage dealt back in the game he had against the eventual champion.

I wonder what happened to all those 3 dice attacks and that shiny rear arc.

1 minute ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

It's probably not the greatest list in the world, but it looks fun to fly and competitive. I would take it to a hyperspace thingy and have a decent expectation of doing well.

Oh sure, it definitely looks fun and it's far from being bad, it's just that I won't put all my eggs on a Whisper right now: it's way too risky for my taste

1 minute ago, Sunitsa said:

Duncan himself conceded after losing Whisper with little damage dealt back in the game he had against the eventual champion.

I wonder what happened to all those 3 dice attacks and that shiny rear arc.

Oh sure, it definitely looks fun and it's far from being bad, it's just that I won't put all my eggs on a Whisper right now: it's way too risky for my taste

U rite.

trash from the top to the bottom.

moar torpedoes is ubstoppability!

MOAR!

Who needs torpedoes when your Punisher rolls natty 3 crits with a range 1 attack and Vader at range 1 is basically a never depleting proton torp.

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

U rite.

trash from the top to the bottom.

moar torpedoes is ubstoppability!

MOAR!

Why are you always so eager to jump the gun when I write something?

I just pointed out that Torpedoes were very common in the Coruscant cut, supporting my claim with data.

I never commented about them being too stronk or something, I just added that if we had to plan around an ordnance, it should proton torpedoes and not barrage rockets which so far, at least in this board, were the boogey-men... When did I say they were unstoppable or that 2.0 meta is already done?

I say that I don't like Duncan's list (please note I just said I don't like it, not that it's a bad list or whatever) citing its reliance of whisper as a weakness (something confirmed by video evidence, mind you). You answer was that it slings 3 red attacks like it was something incredible...

What's your issue man?

5 minutes ago, viedit said:

Vader at range 1 is basically a never depleting proton torp

That reminds me of the for me worst feeling of 1.0: Procket Jake compared to infinite procket Fenn. So. Frustrating.

33pt Awing vs 32pt Fenn, and it is not even close.

2 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

That reminds me of the for me worst feeling of 1.0: Procket Jake compared to infinite procket Fenn. So. Frustrating.

33pt Awing vs 32pt Fenn, and it is not even close.

Upside in 2.0: Procket Jake is now 20 points cheaper than infinite procket Fenn

Downside: Fenn probably murders Jake in 2.0 before Jake ever gets a chance to fire.

Vader all the way. No surprise.

I had a feeling the rebs would flounder under his shadow.

People gotta figure out how to capitalize on Luke to beat Vader on initiative.

Until someone is brave enough to run a Luke to counter Vader the right way, he's not gonna take the rebs to victory.

Also, swarm play is too immature, still, to show the Vader/Luke meta where the real power is at. I think a quad Y/X with torps or TIE swarm can theoretically PWN a ace list in 2.0.

Swarms should have done much better... except apparently no one flew them.

8 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

Swarms should have done much better... except apparently no one flew them. 

They were there. Just under some different looks.

There was a 6 named tie swarm.

Blair had his traditional Z swarm backed with some U-wing beef.

Will Haigwood had a janky 5 ship scum swarm. There was another like that.

Dee had a bomber swarm with a Jendon shuttle.

That's just what I saw on stream.

I also flew Luke, Jan, Blount, and Sabine.

Round 1 against HOLT - L - His yolo joust was better, luke gunner op.

Round 2 against Han, Tragedy Nym, Palob - W - Luke bullied everyone super hard.

Round 3 against Calen - bye because he had to leave

Round 4 against Roger (top 4 Wedge, GARCven, Dutch) - W - I didn't opt in to 3 proton torps, Wedge got put in a box, and Sabine bullied everyone.

Round 5 against Dee (Jendon and 4 bombers) - W - I didn't opt in to 4 proton torpedoes and Luke bullied everyone.

Round 6 against Jesper (Fenn, Old T, Palob) - Conceded since I was already in the cut and we wanted to get dinner. Would have been a fun game, no doubt.

Elimimation Round 1 against Kelvin (Fenn, Guri, Palob) - L - I traded everything but Luke to put Guri in a box and kill her, Luke bullied Palob, then Luke and Fenn dueled for 30 minutes until I guessed wrong.

Had a great time, really enjoyed playing 2.0 and super Luke.

3 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

I didn't opt in to 3 proton torps, Wedge got put in a box, and Sabine bullied everyone. 

4 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

I didn't opt in to 4 proton torpedoes and Luke bullied everyone. 

Teach me your ways, master!

6 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Teach me your ways, master!

Well, my opponents were like "Hey bro, want to eat a bunch of proton torps?" and I was like

15 minutes ago, viedit said:

They were there. Just under some different looks.

There was a 6 named tie swarm.

Blair had his traditional Z swarm backed with some U-wing beef.

Will Haigwood had a janky 5 ship scum swarm. There was another like that.

Dee had a bomber swarm with a Jendon shuttle.

That's just what I saw on stream.

You forgot Tyler "One point better than Chris Allen" Shaw with his beautiful Sloane Swarm.

5 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

Well, my opponents were like "Hey bro, want to eat a bunch of proton torps?" and I was like

No. I would not like some tea.

7 minutes ago, RStan said:

You forgot Tyler "One point better than Chris Allen" Shaw with his beautiful Sloane Swarm.

LOL. Yes. And our resident incendiary Strigidae with his Whisper + sloane swarm.

1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:

except for all those 3 dice attack it slings.

And the lambda's back arc.

I think things are just different (though I, too, don't prefer a '100 pt ace').

1 hour ago, Sunitsa said:

Duncan himself conceded after losing Whisper with little damage dealt back in the game he had against the eventual champion.

I wonder what happened to all those 3 dice attacks and that shiny rear arc.

Oh sure, it definitely looks fun and it's far from being bad, it's just that I won't put all my eggs on a Whisper right now: it's way too risky for my taste

I agreed that I didn’t like it, but noted the 3 die primaries aren’t purelt support.

you responses with a snippy dismissive answer, so you got one back.

vermeil auto changes a die to a hit if they have no green tokens, which whisper encourages you to spend because of juke.

sai will almost always have a target lock, and also usual a focus to boot.

those primaries are not simple to ignore. His opponent played well - give his opponent credit versus poo poo the list.

again, aside from all of that, I, too, do not prefer not running a ‘100 pt ace’