I'm an Instantaneonist. Because only the present exists. Prove me wrong.
I LOVE DEMOCRACY
17 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:I'm an Instantaneonist. Because only the present exists. Prove me wrong.
"17 minutes ago"?
1 hour ago, Npmartian said:Either way, the point stands: we can date fossils in a way that shows that they do not form instantly.
Bruh, if a fossil doesn't form instantly, how else can it form?
8 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:"17 minutes ago"?
Dang
22 hours ago, KCDodger said:We're honestly just tired of wasting our time.
Yep. Someone says something like 2 + 2 = 5? Best to just move on.
The notions (I won't even grant them the dignity of being called "ideas") some folks in this thread have make about as much sense as a screen door on a Star Destroyer.
48 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:"17 minutes ago"?
Show me that 48min ago.
I'm looking at it right now.
1 hour ago, ImperialYeet said:Bruh, if a fossil doesn't form instantly, how else can it form?
Go find some bones. Go make some fossils. You clearly know how.
I want you to prove this to me, show us how fossils form instantly. Explain how.
Feeding trolls is ill advised. They tend to swarm and breed rapidly.
39 minutes ago, KCDodger said:Go find some bones. Go make some fossils. You clearly know how.
I want you to prove this to me, show us how fossils form instantly. Explain how.
Hold it! My bad! It's quickly! The video backs me up!
1 hour ago, ImperialYeet said:Hold it! My bad! It's quickly! The video backs me up!
We're waiting.
Yes. Please present evidence to back up your hypothesis, y’know, the thing that after 2 weeks your President hasn’t provided to people?...
Edited by Ebak10 hours ago, Ebak said:Yes. Please present evidence to back up your hypothesis, y’know, the thing that after 2 weeks your President hasn’t provided to people?...
Hey, we're arguing about fossils now. Keep politics out of this.
56 minutes ago, Npmartian said:Hey, we're arguing about fossils now. Keep politics out of this.
But the US president IS a fossil...
57 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:But the US president IS a fossil...
Fair point. It would be nice to have someone other than an old white guy in the oval office. We got Obama for 8 years, but we're still 45/46 on Old White Dudes Running America regardless of the results of the election.
Anyhow, as to why folks don't spend much time debunking "voter fraud" it's because there's essentially none. The "why don't we audit things to find voter fraud" is a clear example of a bad faith argument. Folks know that the vote is *INCREDIBLY* secure, they can *NEVER* find any significant evidence of it, and still keep saying it. They know they're lying (or they're too twisted by racism to see the truth).
Here's a big example. I'm quite proud of my Secretary of State on this, so I think it's worth sharing. When Trump launched a sham commission to find it, Maine SoS Matthew Dunlap was one of the few Democrats on the commission. I suspect the Republicans wanted a veneer of bipartisanship, but Dunlap basically exposed that the real fraud was the commission.
https://www.maine.gov/sos/news/2018/paceidocs.html
QuoteFriday, Aug. 3, 2018
Contact: 207-626-8400
Secretary Dunlap releases initial report on PACEI findings
AUGUSTA – Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a former member of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (PACEI), today released his initial assessment of thousands of the now-disbanded commission’s records, determining that the group had uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud.
“Contrary to what we were promised, these documents show that there was, in fact, a pre-ordained outcome to this commission to demonstrate widespread voter fraud, without any evidence to back it up,” said Secretary Dunlap, who shared his findings today in a letter to former PACEI co-chairs Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach.
Sec. Dunlap’s initial report is based on a review of 1,800 PACEI records that were provided to him for the first time on July 18 following a federal court order. Because this conclusion directly contradicts claims made by both the White House and former PACEI co-chair Kobach, Sec. Dunlap has also released the documents online to enable the public to assess the facts for themselves.
Although Sec. Dunlap had served as a member of the commission since its creation by President Trump in June 2017, he had been largely excluded from participating in the group’s activities, such as discussions related to meeting materials, witness invitations, goals, or outreach. In November 2017, after months of unsuccessfully requesting access the information he needed to meaningfully participate in the PACEI’s investigations, Sec. Dunlap filed a lawsuit alleging that the commission and its co-chairs had violated the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) by excluding him and other commissioners from its work.
On December 22, 2017, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly issued an order in Sec. Dunlap’s favor, instructing the PACEI to provide him with the documents he needed to meaningfully participate in the commission’s work. Just weeks later, rather than comply with the court’s order, President Trump disbanded the commission and government lawyers sought to continue blocking Sec. Dunlap’s access to PACEI files. In July 2018, the court issued another order, reaffirming the prior decision and demanding the government provide records by July 18, 2018.
The government produced records on July 18 as ordered. Secretary Dunlap continues to litigate whether the production was complete. Today’s release reflects his analysis of the documents he received.
While the PACEI files contained no evidence of widespread voter fraud, Sec. Dunlap’s review uncovered several troubling revelations. The files indicated that commission leaders considered issuing further large-scale voter data requests beyond Kobach’s initial June 2017 request for states to submit voter files to the PACEI for analysis, potentially even soliciting data from federal court clerks regarding individuals excused from jury service.
Secretary Dunlap’s letter to Vice President Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kobach, containing his preliminary findings, is available here: http://paceidocs.sosonline.org/PDF/Dunlap PACEI Docs Findings letter - FINAL.080318.pdf
The documents and correspondence of the commission, which Secretary Dunlap received July 19 per court order, are now available on his PACEI Docs webpage at http://paceidocs.sosonline.org/ for public review.
The "Audit the Vote" is just racist bull**** designed to deprive millions of citizens of their Constitutionally-enshrined right to vote, because Republicans don't view Democrats as legitimate--full stop. It's the logic of authoritarianism, and if left unchecked will entirely destroy America as a Democracy and a free country.
He still hasn't proven fossils forming instantly.
On 11/21/2020 at 8:56 AM, Npmartian said:Fair point. It would be nice to have someone other than an old white guy in the oval office. We got Obama for 8 years, but we're still 45/46 on Old White Dudes Running America regardless of the results of the election.
I'd say 44/46. JFK was only 43. Considering you can't even be elected president until you are 35, he was pretty young for the role.
On 11/23/2020 at 1:51 AM, kris40k said:I'd say 44/46. JFK was only 43. Considering you can't even be elected president until you are 35, he was pretty young for the role.
There should be an age cap as well really. Term limits on every governmental seat as well would fundamentally fix the issues with the US government.
Edited by McFoy2 hours ago, McFoy said:There should be an age cap as well really. Term limits on every governmental seat as well would fundamentally fix the issues with the US government.
Not often we agree, but on this? Entirely.
Term limits are a really mixed bag. On the one hand, it's good to break the incumbency bias. On the other, in places like state legislatures with term limits, it means all your lawmakers are very inexperienced and just about everything is really run by lobbyists. Theoretically, maybe that can work out OK--there can be lobbyists for good causes, too--but in practice, there's a lot of places where it's been a problem.
On 11/23/2020 at 1:51 AM, kris40k said:I'd say 44/46. JFK was only 43. Considering you can't even be elected president until you are 35, he was pretty young for the role.
I just now looked up folks ages, and Teddy Roosevelt was about a year younger than Kennedy when he assumed the office. Granted, he was a VP when McKinley was assassinated, so he wasn't the youngest elected.
12 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:I just now looked up folks ages, and Teddy Roosevelt was about a year younger than Kennedy when he assumed the office. Granted, he was a VP when McKinley was assassinated, so he wasn't the youngest elected.
Really? TIL. Must have been the 'stache vs the baby face that made me think Kennedy was the youngest.
38 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:On the other, in places like state legislatures with term limits, it means all your lawmakers are very inexperienced and just about everything is really run by lobbyists.
That's also how it functions without term limits...
3 hours ago, Hiemfire said:That's also how it functions without term limits...
It can get worse. I guess what I mean is, with some advantages and disadvantages, term limits aren't an easy or simple fix. Just different.
He still hasn't proven instant fossils!