43 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Fun read. Worth re-iterating how important it is to keep options open every turn. I think it might be the main thing that defines good X-Wing players?

Seems so obvious but it has taken awhile for the game to begin to slow down enough for me to be able approach it this way and see the table more clearly.

Its also why Supernatural Reflexes, Advanced Sensors, and any premovement abilities are so valuable.

That's my one rub with Barrage Bombers. Unless you can appropriately fan them out and cycle them well, once they have to K-turn they are out of the game for a bit. It's a solid wall of firepower but if you get behind them it's a bloodbath. They don't have the bail out and recover options of something like a Striker or Interceptor.

Just got back from Coruscant. On the stream thing, Dion said FFG told him he was not to call the judges for anything spotted on stream. I take his word on that. Their house, their rules. I don't agree with them, but I plan on trying to "opt in" to having the stream be a spectator in any future stream I'm on. I want them to correct me when I screw something up.

What's funny is, there's a perception us tournament goers are WAAC players, and yet, many of us WANT intervention on broken game states, even if they lead to our detriment.

We want a clean, valid game.

7 minutes ago, pheaver said:

Just got back from Coruscant. On the stream thing, Dion said FFG told him he was not to call the judges for anything spotted on stream. I take his word on that. Their house, their rules. I don't agree with them, but I plan on trying to "opt in" to having the stream be a spectator in any future stream I'm on. I want them to correct me when I screw something up.

I guess someone called Paul

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

What's funny is, there's a perception us tournament goers are WAAC players, and yet, many of us WANT intervention on broken game states, even if they lead to our detriment.

We want a clean, valid game.

I AGREE!

In a game I won I realized after rewatching it that there was a state that my opponent didn't shoot with a ship that could've turned the game. None of us were aware during the game and I felt bad that it happened that way. I wished the game state would've been fixed.

1 minute ago, RStan said:

I AGREE!

In a game I won I realized after rewatching it that there was a state that my opponent didn't shoot with a ship that could've turned the game. None of us were aware during the game and I felt bad that it happened that way. I wished the game state would've been fixed.

Yep.

Finding out after-the-fact that maybe you DIDN'T win hurts, almost doubly, because you were proud of the win, then find out that maybe it wasn't as earned as believed.

I think everyone wants to feel they legitimately won, or lost, their games.

Where there any defenders at Coruscant? I can't recall seeing any. Are they just over costed?

Just now, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Where there any defenders at Coruscant? I can't recall seeing any. Are they just over costed?

I thought there was a Vader/Rexlar that made the cut....?

4 minutes ago, RStan said:

I thought there was a Vader/Rexlar that made the cut....?

It did yes.

Spoiler

It had Advanced Sensors/HLC on Rex and Supernatural Sensors on Lord Vader.

There were not a huge # of efficency lists or swarms, though there certainly were some. Lots of 3-4 ship builds.

Good thing it's a game for kids and not something important.

We dodged a moral bullet here boys.good work.

10 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Where there any defenders at Coruscant? I can't recall seeing any. Are they just over costed?

Lots of people think they're overcosted.

28 minutes ago, pheaver said:

Just got back from Coruscant. On the stream thing, Dion said FFG told him he was not to call the judges for anything spotted on stream. I take his word on that. Their house, their rules. I don't agree with them, but I plan on trying to "opt in" to having the stream be a spectator in any future stream I'm on. I want them to correct me when I screw something up.

I enjoyed Dion's stream this weekend. I hope that if enough players let TOs know (even FFG TOs in their facility) that they'd prefer to have game states corrected by the stream that the rule will change.

Easy for me to say though, I've never played on stream before ?

Biophysical, thank you for writing about X-wing from a tactical standpoint rather than a card-combo one.

1 hour ago, pheaver said:

Just got back from Coruscant. On the stream thing, Dion said FFG told him he was not to call the judges for anything spotted on stream. I take his word on that. Their house, their rules. I don't agree with them, but I plan on trying to "opt in" to having the stream be a spectator in any future stream I'm on. I want them to correct me when I screw something up.

Well this certainly doesn't help support the narrative that Dion is a terrible person. What now?!

Does anyone feel we learned anything new from Coruscant? From a ship/list is good perspective. It sure doesn't seem like it.

16 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Well this certainly doesn't help support the narrative that Dion is a terrible person. What now?!

Does anyone feel we learned anything new from Coruscant? From a ship/list is good perspective. It sure doesn't seem like it.

I think you can draw some conclusions about specific ships etc but maybe not entire lists.

16 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Well this certainly doesn't help support the narrative that Dion is a terrible person. What now?!

Does anyone feel we learned anything new from Coruscant? From a ship/list is good perspective. It sure doesn't seem like it.

People like flying 3 ships?

I feel like 3 ship lists give me the best opportunity to fly them together and cycle through target priority. Whenever an opponent goes after one ship, I disengage it and turtle it up as much as possible, and use it as an anvil against which I throw the other two hammers. Redline Fel Whisper is a recent example. If they switch target priority, then I just cycle out which ship makes a run for it. Caveat is that all 3 ships have to be able to hit hard on their own, and somehow prevent aggressive pursuits. Whisper and Fel are just plain hard to catch. Redline is a great early alpha. If I can get people chasing him after unloading an alpha, then I spend a few turns running and reloading while dropping bombs and grabbing free target locks.

19 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

I think you can draw some conclusions about specific ships etc but maybe not entire lists.

Yeah, but nothing really new, right? Nothing really jumped up to the Good list nor fell off it.

20 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

People like flying 3 ships?

I sure do!

when do we get over/under results?

My takeaway from Coruscant is the confirmation, that meta is indeed wide open in Extended, with great number of ships and archetypes being competitive.

There were 2 ship builds, swarms, but mostly 3 or 4 ship lists.

Nothing really stood out as too powerful, and great flying with solid lists was rewarded.

Notably none of the forum bogeyman proved to be any kind of problem..

28 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

People like flying 3 ships?

Yes, keep doing that.... *maniacally laughing in the corner holding Admiral Sloane upgrade card*

1 minute ago, baranidlo said:

My takeaway from Coruscant is the confirmation, that meta is indeed wide open in Extended, with great number of ships and archetypes being competitive.

There were 2 ship builds, swarms, but mostly 3 or 4 ship lists.

Nothing really stood out as too powerful, and great flying with solid lists was rewarded.

Notably none of the forum bogeyman proved to be any kind of problem..

Well, arguably one of the more abusive pilots was stuck riding shotgun this weekend.

Hey, how was loose cargo ruled?

5 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Hey, how was loose cargo ruled?

Inquiring minds want to know...

The takeaway from Coruscant is that the best ordnance is proton torpedoes and not barrage rockets.