There are certain boundaries that shouldn't be crossed. A ship costing less than 12 pts, for instance. A ship that is relatively as sturdy as the X-wing shouldn't be less than 21 pts. You want to compare it to the Phantom, fine, but there is a reason why the cheapest is 25 pts. Not loading up on the 4 Atk ships without losing your upgrades.

But the real test in in the 5 Interceptors vs 5 X-wings. That doesn't exactly make the Interceptors look great, now does it?

But the real test in in the 5 Interceptors vs 5 X-wings. That doesn't exactly make the Interceptors look great, now does it?

I don't see your point. 5 Interceptors aren't a good squad at the moment anyway (and the base interceptor being overcosted as well is no small part of that); is the fact that a fixed X-wing makes a bad squad look worse really a good argument for leaving it hamstrung?

EDIT: Plus, as others have said below, depending on which squints you take (and why wouldn't you take Avengers?), it might not be anywhere near as one-sided as you think.

But the real test in in the 5 Interceptors vs 5 X-wings. That doesn't exactly make the Interceptors look great, now does it?

I don't see your point. 5 Interceptors aren't a good squad at the moment anyway (and the base interceptor being overcosted as well is no small part of that); is the fact that a fixed X-wing makes a bad squad look worse really a good argument for leaving it hamstrung?

I'd say interceptors would probably win that match unfortunately. X-wings are in the spot they are in because they have no natural repositioning ala boost and barrel roll or they have no 360 turrets.

Really what other ship is there like that? The z95? It's a 12 point filler ship. Firespray? Rear arc? Shuttle? It's a shuttle lol and the same points as a rookie. I think that's the biggest thing hurting the x wing. Imagine if they all had a natural barrel roll.

Also still vote for the astromech which gives sensor slot

But the real test in in the 5 Interceptors vs 5 X-wings. That doesn't exactly make the Interceptors look great, now does it?

Did you mean to submarine your entire argument? I'd take the squints (albeit barely) in that match up. I'm now firmly convinced X-Wings need a nudge. You are so very persuasive.

But the real test in in the 5 Interceptors vs 5 X-wings. That doesn't exactly make the Interceptors look great, now does it?

Did you mean to submarine your entire argument? I'd take the squints (albeit barely) in that match up. I'm now firmly convinced X-Wings need a nudge. You are so very persuasive.

It's not only phantoms that outclass the X-Wing really. Btw, someone stated that 4 points equals R2-D2. Yes and against a Phantom you won't win with an additional R2-D2 either. To immobile. He gets behind you and that's it mostly...

just dont forget that the sigma will be naked. only shenanigans and 4dicing every other turn. that or helllooooo 2 green dice. the maneurability on that is manageable.

id say its even r2d2 x or sigma.

funnyenough for the same price, 25pts, those two are pretty overpowered for generics plus upgrades.