ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz a very dull and kinda pointless episode

A very fun and enjoyable episode.

6 hours ago, Darth evil said:

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz a very dull and kinda pointless episode

1 hour ago, Yodhrin said:

A very fun and enjoyable episode.

The duality of man.

It was fine. Paced a little slowly, but lots of good humour. The major threat seemed a bit underwhelming and a little cliche though. For those that say nothing happened give it a bit of time, its obviously setting up an arc. Nice callbacks too.

I think this episode will work better as when viewed as part of a complete season rather than as an individual episode.

For Legion purposes, if they ever add New Republic/Resistance as a faction, there’s a certain character I’d like to see.

11 hours ago, Darth evil said:

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz a very dull and kinda pointless episode

6 hours ago, Yodhrin said:

A very fun and enjoyable episode.

I think you're both right. The episode was dull, and felt pointless, but had it's fun moments and was enjoyable in parts. Tons of focus on the Child, which was a major thing that felt lacking in the last episode.

Overall, I was disappointed with it, because I was really hoping for a good "story" episode this week rather than more filler, but I think as GooeyChewie said, it'll be more enjoyable when binged watched rather than as the only episode for the week.

26 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I think you're both right. The episode was dull, and felt pointless, but had it's fun moments and was enjoyable in parts. Tons of focus on the Child, which was a major thing that felt lacking in the last episode.

Overall, I was disappointed with it, because I was really hoping for a good "story" episode this week rather than more filler, but I think as GooeyChewie said, it'll be more enjoyable when binged watched rather than as the only episode for the week.

TBH it seems like the main point of difference is whether someone considers episodes that don't entirely relate to the "Main Quest" as being "filler" or just, you know, normal. Frankly I find actually-episodic-episodes a breath of fresh air these days, especially since all these damned streaming services are beginning to insist on returning to a weekly "broadcast" schedule rather than dumping whole seasons at once - if you're going to make a 10 hour movie, don't make me watch it over 10 weeks. Or better yet, just don't make everything a 10 hour movie.

Hey, while the episode was a little slow, it did give nods to the 1st season and did see one of our new lords of the Star Wars Verse reappear as an X WING pilot for fun. Only thing that might have been more fun is if they moved up release 1 week earlier because if did have a horror vibe for a Disney Show.

I can respect having a few slow episodes to help bridge locations and plot points. We needed to get Mando to another system and so rather than just smash cut to the location, we make the journey interesting.

Episode did a good job of showing the New Republic in a different light than just "The victorious good guys". I mean, yeah they saved Mando and then chose not to arrest him, but they also more or less made him take full responsibility for his actions in evading them by not assisting with repairing his ship. The final conversation had this air of "you got yourself into this mess, now you have to get yourself out of it". I think it was a good episode overall, but I'll agree with other sentiments here: it's the kind of episode that will be more fondly remembered as part of the overall series rather than just a single episode with no idea what it's setting up or where it's going. It does a good job of further contextualizing the world and showing our main characters' place in it while providing a nice little side romp to break up the primary path.

Side note: I need to find out more about that weird frog race because there is 100% going to be one of those in my Edge of the Empire Campaign because I am a sucker for silly alien voices.

I like the new species. I also like that there are these types of episodes. Jon Faveau stated originally that he wanted to explore parts of the galaxy that lay outside of the skywalker saga. That's what he's doing.

If I want to be critical of the episode, then I would complain about How did the 2 x-wings get down in the gulch, when the Razorcrest could barely fit out. Why did they go down there, and then just let him go?

A cool article about Paul Sun-Hyung Lee who played one of the New Republic X-wing pilots.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/paul-sun-hyung-lee-mandalorian-1.5792631

It would be fine in a 16 episode series but we have had 2 episode which barely moved the plot and we have like 8 episodes left

34 minutes ago, Darth evil said:

It would be fine in a 16 episode series but we have had 2 episode which barely moved the plot and we have like 8 episodes left

*6 episodes left.

He's on a quest. A hero is supposed to face obstacles along the way. The show is about the journey, not the destination.

How about Dr. Mandible as a medic for the future scoundrel faction? With that gambling addiction, he's bound to get caught up owing his services eventually.

I'm ok with the slow burn.

The longer they stretch it out the more seasons we get I'm hoping.

You think we'll just see ahsoka for one episode and have all the answers we need? Moff Gideon is the only bad guy (if this goes into 4 seasons, i guarantee Jabba's cousin/ nephew shows up and maybe Hondo as well)

18 hours ago, Lochlan said:

*6 episodes left.

Even worst. We waited a year for a rebel rehash episode of hunting a big monster and ice spiders

10 hours ago, Darth evil said:

Even worst. We waited a year for a rebel rehash episode of hunting a big monster and ice spiders

Mm yes, a rehash. Apart from the different characters, location, plot structure, stakes, narrative themes & tone, and resolution. But other than all those things, yeah, it definitely had spider-critters in it, totally indistinguishable.

We get it, you don't like the episodic style, but at least try and base your criticisms in something resembling reality eh.

I agree with those who support the slow burn of Mandalorian as a show - it's not The Rise of Skywalker or Justice League I like that the creators take time to show us the main characters (Din and the Child) in different situations. I like them both, and to me it's just fan watching them. I'll watch half an hour of Din trying to teach the Child to speak, if they ever chose to film it.

This episode is like an episode of Firefly (which is, admittedly, the best space western ever, sorry Mando) - except for a shorter runtime, smaller crew, etc. - but the idea is the same, the creator invite you to spend time with the crew, not necessary to save the galaxy, or Yoda's race, or whatever. Not everything has to be connected to Skywalker saga.

The episode has a nice pace, is clear to follow and logical. I like how the bounty hunters attack remind Din of the looming danger and how it makes him extra reluctant to take passengers. I like how Peli basically scams him into taking the passenger - she might be fond of the Child, but she lives on Tatooine, and runs a buisness there. For Force's sake, of course she'll swindle everyone.

And it gets better from there, as the action ramps up, from the chase, to the spiders, with the horror of the Child in between. Btw, I'm actually terrified by Baby Yoda. Either all members of this spieces except from the three that joined the Jedi are gremlins (ant that's why Yoda, Yaddle and Vandar Tokare never revealed more about them), or they suffer from spieces-wide case of pica (Yoda was known to gnaw on his cane and eat mud-like foods in Legends). Whatever the reason, Baby Yoda's fondness of sentient frog caviar is... gross. Cool, but gross

On 11/7/2020 at 8:27 AM, Yodhrin said:

TBH it seems like the main point of difference is whether someone considers episodes that don't entirely relate to the "Main Quest" as being "filler" or just, you know, normal. Frankly I find actually-episodic-episodes a breath of fresh air these days, especially since all these damned streaming services are beginning to insist on returning to a weekly "broadcast" schedule rather than dumping whole seasons at once - if you're going to make a 10 hour movie, don't make me watch it over 10 weeks. Or better yet, just don't make everything a 10 hour movie.

I tend to think the exact opposite. If you're going to binge watch a season, filler is fine. Multiple episodes in a row with a weekly release are more than a little tedious to slog through. I really don't mind filler, I just wish they'd advance the plot a little more than EXACTLY where it left off at the end of last season, **** near a year ago. Filler with progressing story indicates they're taking their time, filler with no story progression indicates they really don't have much story to tell, and are trying to pad the **** out of it.

19 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

I tend to think the exact opposite. If you're going to binge watch a season, filler is fine. Multiple episodes in a row with a weekly release are more than a little tedious to slog through. I really don't mind filler, I just wish they'd advance the plot a little more than EXACTLY where it left off at the end of last season, **** near a year ago. Filler with progressing story indicates they're taking their time, filler with no story progression indicates they really don't have much story to tell, and are trying to pad the **** out of it.

Here's the thing though, Did Faverau and Filoni know the release schedule when they decided on the final story cuts, and did the Covid/Disney/Pedro Drama's around the production affect things more than were implied in the media?

On 11/7/2020 at 9:48 PM, Darth evil said:

It would be fine in a 16 episode series but we have had 2 episode which barely moved the plot and we have like 8 episodes left

Again, it should be obvious at this point... this is what the show IS. A few episodes that “move the plot” and a few “random encounter” episodes.

1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:

I tend to think the exact opposite. If you're going to binge watch a season, filler is fine. Multiple episodes in a row with a weekly release are more than a little tedious to slog through. I really don't mind filler, I just wish they'd advance the plot a little more than EXACTLY where it left off at the end of last season, **** near a year ago. Filler with progressing story indicates they're taking their time, filler with no story progression indicates they really don't have much story to tell, and are trying to pad the **** out of it.

You’re thinking that this show is something it isn’t. It’s the X-Files. It’s Clone Wars. It’s Smallville. It’s The Incredible Hulk. It’s Quantum Leap. It’s Star Trek. It’s not Breaking Bad. It’s not Watchmen. It’s not like a lot of prestige television. Not every episode is going to be connected to the mythology or the plot. It’s only “filler” if you’re expecting the show to be something other than what it obviously wants to be at this point.

It’s not padding... it’s the whole point.

58 minutes ago, KalEl814 said:

It’s not padding... it’s the whole point.

good explanation. From the early on, this is what I understood the show to be, so I kind of expected some of this. I honestly thought Real Boba Fett would show at some point, but maybe they were just throwing that out there for future spin-offs.

The way I see it is this.

There are maybe 3-4 episodes dealing with Moff Gideon and getting the Greef Karga band back together.

I feel like a lot of people want it to be a story that's just about the main character when the story is equally about the place in which it occurs.

I've loved how the Mandalorian makes the galaxy feel alive. There are other things going on besides Mando's story, and Mando's story isn't the one that the galaxy lives or dies on. The slower pace is a shift from what we've seen in the recent movies (and I mean ALL the recent movies, Rogue One and Solo included) where the pacing is more frantic. I won't lie, it gets a bit tiresome after a while when every story in the galaxy is some kind of race to the finish. I appreciate the lower pacing and more non-critical path time of the Mandalorian cause it makes those frantic moments seem all the more important and draws you in because that high octane pacing isn't the norm.

The more Amy Sedaris the better.