Clan Wren

5 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Clan Wren

...are likely all dead (apart from Sabine) during this series.

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

...are likely all dead (apart from Sabine) during this series.

Such is the Just and preordained fate of those who oppose The Empire and The Emperor’s New Order.

1 hour ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Such is the Just and preordained fate of those who oppose The Empire and The Emperor’s New Order.

47 minutes ago, RuusMarev said:

Apart from being from an episode of Castle, is it really fitting to show someone who also played someone who LOST a rebellion?

2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Such is the Just and preordained fate of those who oppose The Empire and The Emperor’s New Order.

Considering the buffoonery that the emperor routinely did, should we mention the preordained fate of the Empire?

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Apart from being from an episode of Castle, is it really fitting to show someone who also played someone who LOST a rebellion?

But he never stopped..

On 3/27/2020 at 11:20 AM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

...are likely all dead (apart from Sabine) during this series.

I guess we'll find out this year. Clan Wren should show up in the last season of clone wars due out at the end of this month, and Mandalorian season 2 is going to start in Oct/Nov

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It's no longer a secret, and Rosario Dawson basically admits she’s playing Ahsoka Tano in 'The Mandalorian' season 2

3 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

It's no longer a secret, and Rosario Dawson basically admits she’s playing Ahsoka Tano in 'The Mandalorian' season 2

What we need is Mark Hamill to play Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian.

8 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

It's no longer a secret, and Rosario Dawson basically admits she’s playing Ahsoka Tano in 'The Mandalorian' season 2

I still think they should have cast Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka. Not only is she the voice actress, she cosplays as Ahsoka all the time and looks fantastic.

1 hour ago, Herowannabe said:

I still think they should have cast Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka. Not only is she the voice actress, she cosplays as Ahsoka all the time and looks fantastic.

Voice acting skills =/= physical acting skills. As cool as this would have been.

I wonder if they wanted a bigger name to interest more casual fans. Not everyone has watched Clone Wars and Rebels

2 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

I still think they should have cast Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka. Not only is she the voice actress, she cosplays as Ahsoka all the time and looks fantastic.

I'll second this.

9 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Voice acting skills =/= physical acting skills. As cool as this would have been.

I second this

15 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

What we need is Mark Hamill to play Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian.

This would have been okay 30 years ago. I don't think so now. I kind of wish they'd put Dave Filoni on something else. I'd love to see what someone else can do with the line (he's done a ton of stuff for SW over the last 15 years, let's try something completely new)

There gets to be something overly repetitive about these guus the longer they stick around whether it's Filoni or Lucas or whoever. New faces/characters on and off the screen is what I'd vote for.

4 hours ago, buckero0 said:

I kind of wish they'd put Dave Filoni on something else. I'd love to see what someone else can do with the line (he's done a ton of stuff for SW over the last 15 years, let's try something completely new)

There gets to be something overly repetitive about these guus the longer they stick around whether it's Filoni or Lucas or whoever. New faces/characters on and off the screen is what I'd vote for.

I dont second this. I think Dave Filoni and John Favrau are the two best creative minds in Star Wars right now. The Mandalorian season 1 really was a big win that the franchise needed to re-unite the fan base. I think we need a few more good projects to come out before they start experimenting too much with newer artists.

19 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Voice acting skills =/= physical acting skills. As cool as this would have been.

This is true, though Ashley Eckstein also does live action. I’m sure they could have made it work.

I don't follow the artists closely enough to know many names. I reserve that bandwidth for miniatures sculptors, and history.

The fact is, the original secret to the OT's success came down to a list of specific things, which Lucas failed to replicate in the prequels, and which Abrams and to a large degree Johnson failed to replicate in the ST. The Mandalorian and R1 (and to a lesser degree, SOLO) nailed them though.

These things are:

• Synthesis of film history
• Synthesis of mythology
• Verisimilitude
• Spectacle

That's basically it. I'm not saying this because it's what I liked about the OT. I'm saying it because it's what you get when you boil down decades of commentary and review into the most concise statement possible.

In the PT Lucas got distracted with the art and forgot the craft. In the ST Abrams and (and to a lesser degree Johnson) synthesized Star Wars instead of film history or mythology. Abrams and Lucas, and to a lesser degree Jonson (but he's still guilty of it) threw out verisimilitude for the PT and ST.

Now that it's established, the releases are guaranteed at least a modicum of financial success which no longer proves anything. That The Mandalorian not only is a success, but is a number one tv show worldwide, does prove something. That's the kind of hit ANH was in the 70's. For example, one of our local theaters showed ANH at least once a day from its initial release, until well into 1983 when ROTJ closed.

Now back to The Mandalorian . So far, it has synthesized film and television history, and it has verisimilitude. Spectacle is present, though limited by the small screen but that might be helping it, as the writers don't feel safe falling back on spectacle. We'll see where it goes with the mythology piece. A lot of franchise's attempts at mythology is hurt by trying to do ALL the mythology. When you try to do everything, you end up doing nothing. The OT succeeded mythologically because it did a nice compact Heroe's Journey and not much else. I'll be curious to see how and if The Mandalorian adapts dyed in the wool mythological themes to television. The Mandalorian has the setups for mytholgical themes and keeps the flavor of myth ever present.

2 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

In the ST Abrams and (and to a lesser degree Johnson) synthesized Star Wars instead of film history or mythology.

This^

You can tell that the directors and writers went back and watched Star Wars for inspiration. They should have gone back and watched Buck Rogers, Samurai films, westerns, read Valerian and New Gods comics from the 70's etc.

I enjoy both the PT and the ST but they both fall flat in big ways.

12 minutes ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

This^

You can tell that the directors and writers went back and watched Star Wars for inspiration.

If I have to watch the Millenium Falcon miraculously turn on it's side at the last moment one more time, I'm gonna lose it. Get a new trick, filmmakers. Not every scene with the Falcon needs to be a rehash of the ESB asteroid field. Ditto one more club full of freaky deaky aliens.

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They should have gone back and watched Buck Rogers, Samurai films, westerns, read Valerian and New Gods comics from the 70's etc.

I enjoy both the PT and the ST but they both fall flat in big ways.

And Bogart movies. Han Solo is basically a synthesis of every Humphrey Bogart character.

3 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

This is true, though Ashley Eckstein also does live action. I’m sure they could have made it work.

And she is not a 40 year old trying to play a 17-25 year old. I will hold judgement, but Dawson would not have even been on my list.

2 minutes ago, Cusm said:

And she is not a 40 year old trying to play a 17-25 year old. I will hold judgement, but Dawson would not have even been on my list.

I am seriosuly concrened that Season 2 will be The Mandalorian 's downfall from awesomeness.

But I also harbored such fears about every episode of season 1 that came out. And it turned out good.

I don't know anything about Dawson, Eckstein, or Ashoka.

1 hour ago, Cusm said:

And she is not a 40 year old trying to play a 17-25 year old. I will hold judgement, but Dawson would not have even been on my list.

Ashley Eckstein is 38 years old. Ahsoka was like what? 14 at the time of the clone wars? Add ~20 years to the battle of Yavin, then 3-5 years for the OT and The Mandalorian is set 5 years after the end of that.

So the Ahsoka we will see in season 2 should be close to 40, which both actors can play

1 hour ago, Cusm said:

And she is not a 40 year old trying to play a 17-25 year old. I will hold judgement, but Dawson would not have even been on my list.

42 minutes ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Ashley Eckstein is 38 years old. Ahsoka was like what? 14 at the time of the clone wars? Add ~20 years to the battle of Yavin, then 3-5 years for the OT and The Mandalorian is set 5 years after the end of that.

So the Ahsoka we will see in season 2 should be close to 40, which both actors can play

According to Wookiepedia, Ahsoka was born in 36 BBY, and The Mandolorian Season 1 is set is 9 ABY. Which means Ahsoka is about 45 years old in Season 2 (assuming no crazy time jumps). So Rosario Dawson at 40 is actually younger than the Ahsoka she will be playing.