32 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:

what specific info did you want in the dramatis personae?

Maybe name, species, gender, profession, affiliation, location(s) seen, pertinent interests?

(Granted, we might not know some of those facts, or we might be uncertain about them.)

For example ...

Jango Fett: Mandalorian (?) human (?) male (face unknown), bounty hunter, CIS (no rank), Geonosis/Christophsis, grudge vs. Ker'see.

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2 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:

@Bellona @jhh3 @MrTInce @P-47 Thunderbolt @RuusMarev @ShockHelix @Von3679

In case these forums suddenly go away you'll need a way to contact me so we can find another way to continue this... I have 2 gmail addresses, one of them is my username for this forum. Being a little creative in the communication so bots can't auto scrape it, but gmail me to let me know you understand my gmail addresses.

Go away? did i miss something?

Just now, RuusMarev said:

Go away? did i miss something?

The RPG license is being transferred to Edge Studios, so we're hedging our bets in case anything were to happen. For all we know, the forums will be here as long as the game is.

2 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

The RPG license is being transferred to Edge Studios, so we're hedging our bets in case anything were to happen. For all we know, the forums will be here as long as the game is.

ugh...ok.

Just to confirm are the Jedi back at base waiting for the clones to return?

15 minutes ago, MrTInce said:

Just to confirm are the Jedi back at base waiting for the clones to return?

That tallies with my own understanding of the situation.

1 hour ago, Bellona said:

That tallies with my own understanding of the situation.

Would Mireska be up for a practice duel to kill some time?

2 hours ago, MrTInce said:

Would Mireska be up for a practice duel to kill some time?

Sure, she's up for some personal humiliation!

(I mean, Ker'see will run absolute rings around her - no question about that.)

Narratively-speaking, she was already planning some training time that evening (after time spent working in Medical, then helping with crafting, then an early dinner). On a meta-level, I've already spent 5 XP the other week (or maybe the week before?) to buy her Parry up by 1 rank, so this will be a nice justification.

Do we duel using Stun damage until we reach the Strain Threshold, take some unspecified time to recover (treating it as the end of an encounter with related Strain-recovery chances), then go again, aiming for best two out of three?

Non-Wound inflicting Force powers are permitted? (If Mireska had Niman and a developed Move power, that would be part of her style.)

Do we not bother with relative character position (aside from starting at Short instead of Engaged), nor with possible obstacles and where arena borders might be?

Shall we keep most of it in the OOC thread, and then we both give just a summary of each duel on the IC thread?

I'll roll Mireska's Initiative dice in the OOC thread ...

@EliasWindrider Would failed skilled checks during practice duels trigger Mireska's Will of the Force talent?

Happy with Stun damage, then there is no accidental crits. Use whatever techniques you feel Mireska would use. Happy to start from whatever range there is. Assuming we are in a training room we'd have a large open area to fight in.

We have a destiny token each for this that doesn't impact on the overall total.

Weapons already out I take it.

2 minutes ago, MrTInce said:

We have a destiny token each for this that doesn't impact on the overall total.

Weapons already out I take it.

Since it's a "formal" spar, not a combat encounter, I figure on the weapons already being activated.

I'd forgotten about the DPs. So one LS point each, or one roll each?

34 minutes ago, MrTInce said:

Happy with Stun damage, then there is no accidental crits. Use whatever techniques you feel Mireska would use. Happy to start from whatever range there is. Assuming we are in a training room we'd have a large open area to fight in.

... I believe that Stun damage can indeed cause Critical Injuries, according to the "Wounds, Strain, and States of Health" section (FaD p. 223, sidebar), although it looks situationally optional according to the last sentence of the sidebar. It could be the source of training accidents when training hard with lightsabres (instead of actual Wounds).

But if you want, we can agree to pull our blows to the extent that no CIs are made. I don't mind either way, assuming that Ker'see doesn't make use of Lethal Blows or similar bonuses for the roll on the CI table. The CIs over 100 are far more dangerous than the lower ones.

47 minutes ago, Bellona said:

... I believe that Stun damage can indeed cause Critical Injuries, according to the "Wounds, Strain, and States of Health" section (FaD p. 223, sidebar), although it looks situationally optional according to the last sentence of the sidebar. It could be the source of training accidents when training hard with lightsabres (instead of actual Wounds).

But if you want, we can agree to pull our blows to the extent that no CIs are made. I don't mind either way, assuming that Ker'see doesn't make use of Lethal Blows or similar bonuses for the roll on the CI table. The CIs over 100 are far more dangerous than the lower ones.

Stun sabres can't crit RAW.

The Crits are something of a moot point since you can just decide not to trigger them, though it would be interesting to see Despair on an attack check spent to have someone actually get injured.

For blocking stun damage, I would suggest simplifying it by subtracting 3 from Deflect and adding that to your Soak, it'll make those calculations easier.

5 hours ago, Bellona said:

Sure, she's up for some personal humiliation!

(I mean, Ker'see will run absolute rings around her - no question about that.)

Narratively-speaking, she was already planning some training time that evening (after time spent working in Medical, then helping with crafting, then an early dinner). On a meta-level, I've already spent 5 XP the other week (or maybe the week before?) to buy her Parry up by 1 rank, so this will be a nice justification.

Do we duel using Stun damage until we reach the Strain Threshold, take some unspecified time to recover (treating it as the end of an encounter with related Strain-recovery chances), then go again, aiming for best two out of three?

Non-Wound inflicting Force powers are permitted? (If Mireska had Niman and a developed Move power, that would be part of her style.)

Do we not bother with relative character position (aside from starting at Short instead of Engaged), nor with possible obstacles and where arena borders might be?

Shall we keep most of it in the OOC thread, and then we both give just a summary of each duel on the IC thread?

I'll roll Mireska's Initiative dice in the OOC thread ...

@EliasWindrider Would failed skilled checks during practice duels trigger Mireska's Will of the Force tal ent?

No

1 hour ago, MrTInce said:

Stun sabres can't crit RAW.

You're quite right with regard to a Training Lightsabre.

However, Mireska's 'sabre can crit with Stun damage because it's a regular 'sabre with a Damping Emitter attachment instead. To balance that it does 2 less damage (so long as it's unmodded).

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@EliasWindrider , what's the story behind Jango's Mandalorian heritage and the Cuy'Val Dar?

I guess I've been operating under my headcanon that the Cuy'Val Dar were Mandalorians selected by Jango to train the clones, but if Jango isn't Mandalorian, it might be different. I'm trying to figure out how much Camo knows. (And how much I know)

I can always simply say he picked up Mando'a (or at least some Mando'a curses) from a Mandalorian mercenary training instructor regardless of the Alt U story since it's plausible for one of the mercs hired as an instructor to have been a Mando.

6 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

@EliasWindrider , what's the story behind Jango's Mandalorian heritage and the Cuy'Val Dar?

I guess I've been operating under my headcanon that the Cuy'Val Dar were Mandalorians selected by Jango to train the clones, but if Jango isn't Mandalorian, it might be different. I'm trying to figure out how much Camo knows. (And how much I know)

I can always simply say he picked up Mando'a (or at least some Mando'a curses) from a Mandalorian mercenary training instructor regardless of the Alt U story since it's plausible for one of the mercs hired as an instructor to have been a Mando.

Jango recommended mandos to train the clones, a few of them might have known jango as a guy who wears mandalorian armor but he never showed them his face (he was at least pretending to follow "the way" around them) jango has told the possibly true story of being rescued adopted/raised by mandos although no one seems to know his heritage (by adoption), but while the mandos who trained the clones new jango, they didn't know he was the one who recommended them for the job. If they saw him on camino they'd assume he was just another mando hired to train the clones

14 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:

Jango recommended mandos to train the clones, a few of them might have known jango as a guy who wears mandalorian armor but he never showed them his face (he was at least pretending to follow "the way" around them) jango has told the possibly true story of being rescued adopted/raised by mandos although no one seems to know his heritage (by adoption), but while the mandos who trained the clones new jango, they didn't know he was the one who recommended them for the job. If they saw him on camino they'd assume he was just another mando hired to train the clones

I assume that the trainers are still there on Kamino, as new batches (regular and speedies) are still being made/trained.

On a related topic, I wonder how informative the Kaminoans were when the Jedi asked about things post-Geonosis. Stuff like the identity of the clones' genetic template, the presence/identity of Boba (maybe some of the clones remember Boba?), who/which Jedi made the original clone army order, who kept an eye on/directed the order's development (i.e., did the name Tyrannus turn up), etc.

Is Shaak Ti the Jedi currently in charge of the Kamino end of things?

Another related topic: is the Galidraan massacre a part of this campaign's canon?

2 minutes ago, Bellona said:

I assume that the trainers are still there on Kamino, as new batches (regular and speedies) are still being made/trained.

On a related topic, I wonder how informative the Kaminoans were when the Jedi asked about things post-Geonosis. Stuff like the identity of the clones' genetic template, the presence/identity of Boba (maybe some of the clones remember Boba?), who/which Jedi made the original clone army order, who kept an eye on/directed the order's development (i.e., did the name Tyrannus turn up), etc.

Is Shaak Ti the Jedi currently in charge of the Kamino end of things?

Another related topic: is the Galidraan massacre a part of this campaign's canon?

Per current canon, ie Clone Wars, the Kamino leadership knew it was Sidious behind it all and Dooku/Tyranus was his agent.. They put the inhibitor chips in the clones on Sidious's orders. ARC trooper Fives discovered the plot of Order 66, and Palpatine met with him in private, and presumably told Fives the truth, because the next scene is Fives escaping in a panic.

Just now, RuusMarev said:

Per current canon, ie Clone Wars, the Kamino leadership knew it was Sidious behind it all and Dooku/Tyranus was his agent.. They put the inhibitor chips in the clones on Sidious's orders. ARC trooper Fives discovered the plot of Order 66, and Palpatine met with him in private, and presumably told Fives the truth, because the next scene is Fives escaping in a panic.

Although based in part on canon (such as it is currently ... O Lucas, thy middle name is Retcon!), my questions are actually directed at this campaign's "AU canon".

Part of what I'm wondering is if any Kaminoans knew that Sidious and Tyranus were Sith (as opposed to "mysterious backers"/maybe Jedi), and that the bio-chips were part of a plot directed specifically against the Jedi (and, ultimately, the Republic).

Presumably Dooku only visited/communicated with the Kaminoans while using his Tyranus identity (until the army was "discovered" and put to use). Otherwise it would look odd if the leader of the CIS was involved with the original order for the Republic's/Jedi Order's clone army.