@Tramp Graphics , please see my previous post regarding successes for this (frankly I'm pretty annoyed I'm having to explain this again).

To be specific, you check was to seduce the pair, with the further goal of having them let you go. You succeeded the check, which means that they are attracted to you. However considering you are:

1. In public at the early part of the city
2. Were just a part of a high speed and dangerous chase
3. More law enforcement is on the way
4. Have footage of the chase that needs to be turned in as evidence

They are not just going to let you go. I am going to remind you (because there seems to be a large sect of players within rpg's that forget this), social skills do NOT equate to mind control. You could succeed on a charm check on a guy in a bar, but if they are happily married they're not just going to throw all that away. That's not how social skills work, npc's are not mindless.

Your check has lowered their guard, and one of them has said he may be able to help when they bring you in, but they are not just going to release you here and now.

You can fight back, struggle, or try and get away on foot, but beyond that you will be heading to prison. Fortunately, the party will soon be receiving a rich benefactor looking to make a name for themselves, so it is likely that they will be able to provide some assistance with this matter.

@Edgehawk and @Shlambate , sorry, I forgot to say you guys are free from the chase scenario now. I will say an average streetwise with a boost (local knowledge of backroads), or an average stealth will get you guys where you want to without other patrols picking up on you. Earth equivalent time, it's somewhere around 1 in the morning (the party runs later if not for corsec), so a few bars etc are still open, or you can head back to the garage, or your respective apartments (as a reminder, everyone has basic accommodation of a quality set around their individual narrative wealth, which is why Sonnray is living it up in the penthouse, but you guys are probably a bit more modest in terms of housing. If anyone wants to share a place with an npc or another pc, let me know).

We are nearing the end of this session, so I'm going to say everyone can take 10 xp. Everyone in the chase who got away can also take 2 'criminal' obligation each for your sins. If you were caught or not involved, you don't have to take any.

What I only broke a Guy’s nose! That’s not a crime is it?

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On 6/2/2019 at 3:57 PM, Rabobankrider said:

@Jonas Shaaf , in terms of the check, this would suggest that Ari was able to follow you, but if you want with the triumph I will say going off your idea you could bail off of the bike and try to get away on foot somewhere the speeder can't follow (you may have to find a way to get the bike back however).

Yeah, that's fine instead.

Zara is picking up All-Terrain Driver for 5xp, and banking the other 5. Added 2 Criminal Obligation.

I basically already narrated taking us home, but I can post again adding more detail, if you wish.

Avg Streetwise : 3eA+1eB+2eD 1 success, 2 advantage

@Edgehawk Do they share a Place?

1 hour ago, Shlambate said:

@Edgehawk Do they share a Place?

I don't see why not? Maybe they are renting some rooms above the garage, or somewhere nearby, at least.

Cool we could do that

@Jonas Shaaf , if you want to put up an ic of Cormil making a dash for it and I'll sort the follow up. I'll say with your triumph etc, you can make a good getaway with an average athletics.

@Tramp Graphics , with what I said in my previous post, is there anything you want to do before they cart Lei off?

18 hours ago, Rabobankrider said:

@Jonas Shaaf , if you want to put up an ic of Cormil making a dash for it and I'll sort the follow up. I'll say with your triumph etc, you can make a good getaway with an average athletics.

@Tramp Graphics , with what I said in my previous post, is there anything you want to do before they cart Lei off?

I fundamentally disagree with your ruling, based upon RAW. While a successful Social check is not "mind control" it does through one means or another persuade the other party to do what you want him or her to do. I rolled a successful Charm check to persuade him to let Lei Mie go through seduction. And did so with an Advantage because of her pheromones . Your ruling is what, by RAW would be a failure with Advantage, not a Success with Advantage. Now, if you wanted it to be completely impossible for Lei Mi to talk her way out of getting arrested, you should have made it an Impossible check. You didn't. You set it as an upgraded hard check with two setback, which she beat . That mans, by RAW , she succeeds in persuading the cops to let her off with a warning at most.

@Tramp Graphics , I have explained my reasoning above, so I will not repeat myself. I also do not like you telling me, as the gm, how I should or should not be handling rolls, especially considering how you say you aren't experience in it.

However, this once, if @Edgehawk , @Shlambate , @Jonas Shaaf an @btmaja also agree that my ruling here is unfair/unjust I will reconsider (guys, you don't have to get involved if you don't want to, but please let me know within the next couple of days so the game isn't held up for too long). If they don't, you will either have to fundamentally disagree and keep playing, or fundamentally disagree and find a new game.

I am reluctant to weigh in, but...

@Rabobankrider made the situation pretty clear, from the start, and before the roll was made:

On 6/1/2019 at 10:27 PM, Rabobankrider said:

@Tramp Graphics

Use of charm checks do not work like mind control, and so even if you pass the check, that does not mean that they will automatically let you go.

@Jonas Shaaf

@Tramp Graphics I see where you are coming from, RAW; but i think @Rabobankrider wanted to give you the chance to succeed, and improve your situation, rather than just make it an impossible check.

25 minutes ago, Edgehawk said:

I am reluctant to weigh in, but...

@Rabobankrider made the situation pretty clear, from the start, and before the roll was made:

@Tramp Graphics I see where you are coming from, RAW; but i think @Rabobankrider wanted to give you the chance to succeed, and improve your situation, rather than just make it an impossible check.

I would rather have had him say it was an impossible check instead of giving me a difficulty, which I beat and then say I failed to accomplish what I set out to do despite a successful roll, especially one with Advantage.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:48 PM, Rabobankrider said:

@Jonas Shaaf , if you want to put up an ic of Cormil making a dash for it and I'll sort the follow up. I'll say with your triumph etc, you can make a good getaway with an average athletics.

Average Athletics : 3eA+2eD 3 successes, 2 threat

IC Posted

Ok, so after consideration I will be standing by my previous decision. @Tramp Graphics , if you are willing to accept that I need to know if you are going to let the officers arrest you, or try to run for it etc.

@Jonas Shaaf , with the threat I think I'll say you take 2 strain from a bad landing over the fence. As you are no longer on the speeder it's going to be tricky of other officers to locate you, so you can head to whether you want to end the session. You may need a hand getting your speeder back, but @btmaja may well be able to help with that.

Speaking of, @btmaja I am going to introduce a new rule for you that I'm toying with. As your character is from a wealthy family, and ic most of your money is tied up in material goods (speeder, apartment etc), you will have the option to call on the family for family here and there. However asking them for money will add obligation (family) to your character, which could result in things like you doing work for them, someone coming to check in on your, or at worst getting cut off.

@Rabobankrider are we free to narrate our characters going home if they escaped?

@Shlambate , you are yes.

@Edgehawk How big is our house? and is it in the middle of the street?

6 hours ago, Rabobankrider said:

Ok, so after consideration I will be standing by my previous decision. @Tramp Graphics , if you are willing to accept that I need to know if you are going to let the officers arrest you, or try to run for it etc.

@Jonas Shaaf , with the threat I think I'll say you take 2 strain from a bad landing over the fence. As you are no longer on the speeder it's going to be tricky of other officers to locate you, so you can head to whether you want to end the session. You may need a hand getting your speeder back, but @btmaja may well be able to help with that.

Speaking of, @btmaja I am going to introduce a new rule for you that I'm toying with. As your character is from a wealthy family, and ic most of your money is tied up in material goods (speeder, apartment etc), you will have the option to call on the family for family here and there. However asking them for money will add obligation (family) to your character, which could result in things like you doing work for them, someone coming to check in on your, or at worst getting cut off.

Then she's gunning it. and bugging out. What you just did was rob me of a success. Not cool.

@Tramp Graphics , you're speeder is crushed between a wall and the panther, it's not going anywhere. It's why I specified that you would be going on foot. If you want to run, it is an average athletics. I explained my reasons in advance of the check, if you read it you'd have known what was likely to happen. I do not want to hear any more about it.

@Shlambate , @Edgehawk and @Jonas Shaaf , when you have narrated your character arriving at their destinations, I will start the next session.

20 hours ago, Rabobankrider said:

@Tramp Graphics , you're speeder is crushed between a wall and the panther, it's not going anywhere. It's why I specified that you would be going on foot. If you want to run, it is an average athletics. I explained my reasons in advance of the check, if you read it you'd have known what was likely to happen. I do not want to hear any more about it.

@Shlambate , @Edgehawk and @Jonas Shaaf , when you have narrated your character arriving at their destinations, I will start the next session.

Check your PM.

@Tramp Graphics , have responded to your pm, I still need to know if you're going to run on foot or let Lei be arrested.

23 hours ago, Rabobankrider said:

@Tramp Graphics , have responded to your pm, I still need to know if you're going to run on foot or let Lei be arrested.

Neither. Lei Mie is not that athletic ( Brawn of 2, no ranks in Athletics ), and she can't afford to be arrested (being Force Sensitive and all). She's gonna bribe them. She's got 200 Credits, a 4 in Presence , plus her pheromones . Give me a fair Difficulty for a Negotiation check.

@Tramp Graphics , whatever, go for it. As usual I will need an ic to define the checks difficulty, and it will be based in negotiation.

@Tramp Graphics , if you're bribing them I need to actually know how much you are going to give them. Pocket change won't do it.

Just now, Rabobankrider said:

@Tramp Graphics , if you're bribing them I need to actually know how much you are going to give them. Pocket change won't do it.

Starting with 100 , I'll give the full 200 if need be (That's all she has, credits wise), on top of her earlier promised "good time".