19 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Kinda wish they'd just used TIE Reapers tbh.

They have the digital models from Rogue One, and they've already had that connection to Gideon with his Death Trooper contingent. I guess it was a deliberate attempt to show a connection between Gideon and the First Order, but still.

TIE Reapers are cool.

Though that does remind me that, once again, the weakest bit of this episode was making the Stormtroopers out to be completely incompetent. They're trying to make Fennec, Boba and Mando out to be complete badasses in those action scenes and it's just not working for me because the Stormtroopers are so dumb and there's zero tension. There was a shot where Fennec is shooting a couple of troopers, then one comes up behind her. She spins round and shoots him, but it was just painfully slow. The guy was behind her in full view for several moments and makes no attempt at making even a single shot. Then there's the squad leader ordering the one troop to flank, he questions the order then tries it and immediately gets shot. I'm not sure whether the intention was to make the commander or the trooper look dumb, but for me it made them both look dumb.

Then there's Gideon letting two of his troops be tossed around like ragdolls...... None of it works for me.

People can finally shut up about Boba being a jobber though, so this episode still gets a gold star from me.

Oh, also there's this

Amazing really.

I was completely open minded about what they could do....

... And still came away seriously disappointed.

I know that this Star Wars on a TV budget but still.... that was really the best you could do for the world the Jedi originated on? I was hoping for either super lush paradise or desolated ruin and got neither. A patch of desert scrubland? Really? Tiny little ruins Mando found immediately?

I get the western in space vibes, but the lack of imagination in settings is starting to wear a little thin. You couldn't CG in some alien looking vegetation? No ancient collapsed ruins like the Jedha statues in Rogue One? Nothing made this world special.

I don't think tie reaper fit inside the hangar Doors of Gideons Cruiser. They would have been cool but I get why the story needs to start mergeing the Empire tech with what will be one the first Orders.

17 hours ago, Odanan said:

Blind men with sticks are extremely dangerous!

@Odanan it was close. You beat me by just 17 hours.

16 hours ago, KCDodger said:

I TOLD YOU. I TOLD EVERYONE ONE OF YOU FOR YEARS THAT BOBA AND JANGO WERE MANDALORIANS PROPER. FOR YEARS I TOLD YOU THAT STUPID MANDO POLITICIAN WAS DISAVOWING THEM. I WAS RIGHT. I WAS RIGHT DAMMIT!

**** that was a good episode!

It was just me and you kid !

@KCDodger this maybe one of our earliest discussions on this forum.

Why YES, ROSARIO DAWSON really just did re-post a Star Wars Meme.

Yeah. Get it!

It's funny because it's twue.

Boba Fett’s Chain Code translated from Mando'a

Another good episode, but a few things keeping it from being great.

Like others have posted, the action in this one was just not tense at all. It was great seeing Boba Fett not be a shiny hood ornament, but can we not get completely useless adversaries? I want the Stormtroopers that stormed the Tantive IV, not the ones beaten in ROTJ by teddy bears. They just stand out in the open to get blasted, or move in close to get beaten by Boba to a pulp. Some of the scenes with the ST's are almost out of a parody. We get it, they are dumb fodder but can we move past that trope a bit? Also, I love how when Din comes in the Stormtroopers are excellent shots all of a sudden, just to show us again that he's basically invulnerable to blaster fire. How about you two hide behind the large boulder behind you?

I thought great, Dark Troopers, finally a worthy opponent. Nope... They fly in and out. Why not hang two back to see what they can do? Or you know blow up the Slave I... I guess it was jamming scopes so it couldn't be seen. Boba flies right up next to the cruiser, you would think they would have opened fire.

Why didn't Boba get his armor back since he knew Vanth had it? He has f***ing Slave I, it should have been an easy task for the bounty hunter.

I am nitpicking... I get it, but the show has set the bar pretty high and I just feel the middle part of this season is not getting there.

I liked the episode. Fennec Shand really should have been hit at least once with that many stormtroopers about. Especially when we see Mando getting blasted repeatedly in front of her. Jango and Boba getting an actual Mandalorian connection again in canon is cool, and the fact that it was Concord Dawn related allows for why the governor (or whatever he was) reacted to him the way he did in that episode of TCW.

18 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

New Razor Crest miniature option:

https://warworldgaming.com/product/world-at-war-artillery-bomb-craters-x-4/

Too soon man, too soon. 😪

So, the latest episode is named "The Tragedy".

So, which was the tragedy?

1: Having Grogu kidnapped by Dark Troopers.

2: Seeing the Razorcrest obliterated from orbit by Moff Gideon's Arquitens light cruiser.

I'm going with #2. 😭

8 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

It was just me and you kid !

@KCDodger this maybe one of our earliest discussions on this forum.

And we knew **** well we were right!!

59 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

I liked the episode. Fennec Shand really should have been hit at least once with that many stormtroopers about. Especially when we see Mando getting blasted repeatedly in front of her. Jango and Boba getting an actual Mandalorian connection again in canon is cool, and the fact that it was Concord Dawn related allows for why the governor (or whatever he was) reacted to him the way he did in that episode of TCW.

Yep! I said that for years!

18 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Says who? The force could never time travel, yet we have the world within worlds and that happened to Ahsoka.
In Legends the force was imbued to shadow troopers - in Jedi Outcast.
The force can heal wounds, it can apparently go away if not used, Just as Grogu’s had waned. Who can say that someone can't spontaneously develop the force? Or have it thrust on them.
I'm not saying I'm right, only I see a pattern of things planted that come to fruition. Nothing in this season has been done without reason.

Okay so, that wasn't time travel first of all.
Second, The Valley of The Jedi was always a weird outlier, but you're also severely discounting the side effects of using The Valley the way they did. Reborn and Shadow Troopers were very much unstable, barely usable agents of The Dark Side.
As for spontaneously developing the force, look, Din's shown absolutely zero superhuman capabilities. He's shown even less than Han Solo (who I maintain was indeed Force Sensitive but just had NO idea), he's just a dude. As for the Force healing wounds, it's clearly shown in TRoS to cost something.

Also really don't use Legends lore. They use legends content frequently but the lore that came with it is NEVER kept intact.

17 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Kinda wish they'd just used TIE Reapers tbh.

They have the digital models from Rogue One, and they've already had that connection to Gideon with his Death Trooper contingent. I guess it was a deliberate attempt to show a connection between Gideon and the First Order, but still.

TIE Reapers are cool.

Though that does remind me that, once again, the weakest bit of this episode was making the Stormtroopers out to be completely incompetent. They're trying to make Fennec, Boba and Mando out to be complete badasses in those action scenes and it's just not working for me because the Stormtroopers are so dumb and there's zero tension. There was a shot where Fennec is shooting a couple of troopers, then one comes up behind her. She spins round and shoots him, but it was just painfully slow. The guy was behind her in full view for several moments and makes no attempt at making even a single shot. Then there's the squad leader ordering the one troop to flank, he questions the order then tries it and immediately gets shot. I'm not sure whether the intention was to make the commander or the trooper look dumb, but for me it made them both look dumb.

Then there's Gideon letting two of his troops be tossed around like ragdolls...... None of it works for me.

People can finally shut up about Boba being a jobber though, so this episode still gets a gold star from me.

Oh, also there's this

Amazing really.

I was completely open minded about what they could do....

... And still came away seriously disappointed.

I know that this Star Wars on a TV budget but still.... that was really the best you could do for the world the Jedi originated on? I was hoping for either super lush paradise or desolated ruin and got neither. A patch of desert scrubland? Really? Tiny little ruins Mando found immediately?

I get the western in space vibes, but the lack of imagination in settings is starting to wear a little thin. You couldn't CG in some alien looking vegetation? No ancient collapsed ruins like the Jedha statues in Rogue One? Nothing made this world special.

TIE Reapers are cool, but seeing these little landers is even cooler IMO. Besides, a Reaper wouldn't have fit inside an Arquitens' hangar bay... That it really shouldn't have in the first place quite frankly. Agreed on them finally shutting down Boba being a jobber, that was nice. As for Tython... Sorry. The Jedi are clearly at this time fairly ascetic. There isn't a whole lot to them when it comes to ruins and I like the stonehengeish vibe. It's an understated monument and completely natural without having to be surrounded by a standard perception of beauty. I honestly thought it was pretty gorgeous and that really any approach to a Jedi/Force paradise SHOULD be subtle. It also kind of mirrors Ahch-To. There's life all around it, but there's just as much danger. It's a place of balance.

Man, I love the Dark Troopers. Just perfect. Actually, just need to give them their BFG. Also, Thrawn's DT Sentry Droids are the Phase I. These are the Phase II. Makes one wonder if Gideon has a Phase III armor somewhere.

Open Seasons being broadly brought back into canon is fine. And clearly should have been expected, as Filoni clearly likes it. I will say, that it doesn't necessarily mean that Almec was wrong about the Fetts. While Jango is a Mandalorian, it is clear that he wants nothing to do with the broader Mando culture. The civil war he fought in was pre-TPM. And Boba clearly does not view himself as Mandalorian, caring only about his father's armor.

4 hours ago, Sithborg said:

Man, I love the Dark Troopers. Just perfect. Actually, just need to give them their BFG. Also, Thrawn's DT Sentry Droids are the Phase I. These are the Phase II. Makes one wonder if Gideon has a Phase III armor somewhere.

Open Seasons being broadly brought back into canon is fine. And clearly should have been expected, as Filoni clearly likes it. I will say, that it doesn't necessarily mean that Almec was wrong about the Fetts. While Jango is a Mandalorian, it is clear that he wants nothing to do with the broader Mando culture. The civil war he fought in was pre-TPM. And Boba clearly does not view himself as Mandalorian, caring only about his father's armor.

We don't actually know which side Jango was on. But as a foundling wearing silver/grey and blue, well. I can guess he was Death Watch.

25 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

We don't actually know which side Jango was on. But as a foundling wearing silver/grey and blue, well. I can guess he was Death Watch.

Too early to tell. It is very easy to see the True Mandalorians of Open Seasons morphing into the New Mandalorians under Satine and after the Civil War. Filoni is clearly a fan of Open Seasons, so I expect it to broadly be followed.

So I guess this is Canon now

2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

So I guess this is Canon now

On 12/5/2020 at 7:55 AM, Jo Jo said:

Why didn't Boba get his armor back since he knew Vanth had it? He has f***ing Slave I, it should have been an easy task for the bounty hunter.

Right??? This bugs the actual **** out of me.

So Boba just, like, numped around on Tatooine for decades hoping some two-bit sheriff might see how sad he was and offer to sell him the armor back???

When we saw Fett on Tatooine, I figured he was there because he'd renounced his old life and would have to be convinced to help Din because tropes. Instead we get whatever this was...

Yeah, it's a minor point in a really good series, but it's a glaring misstep in my opinion.

Just a line of dialogue to hint at an actual reason would have been enough, and maybe it's still coming. In the meantime... ugh.

1 hour ago, NotBatman said:

Right??? This bugs the actual **** out of me.

So Boba just, like, numped around on Tatooine for decades hoping some two-bit sheriff might see how sad he was and offer to sell him the armor back???

When we saw Fett on Tatooine, I figured he was there because he'd renounced his old life and would have to be convinced to help Din because tropes. Instead we get whatever this was...

Yeah, it's a minor point in a really good series, but it's a glaring misstep in my opinion.

Just a line of dialogue to hint at an actual reason would have been enough, and maybe it's still coming. In the meantime... ugh.

It wasn't decades... it was 5 years, and we don't know how long he was in the Sarlacc.
as Mos Pelgo wasn't exactly a high-traffic area, so Boba likely didn't know where his armour was. Believe it or not, planets are pretty big. It might have been happenstance that one day someone wearing mando armour shows up, and Boba may have thought “is that mine?” Boba says he was tracking Din, likely after he helped Fennec - and who knows how long that took.

So we don't know how long he was in the sarlacc - long enough to get burned by acid or something.
we don't know how long he took to heal.
Plus, maybe someone stole his ship and he had to get that back.

we do know he (Boba) saved Fennec, obviously he was following Din at that point, and He even said he was tracking Din. He was probably just 1 step behind, just long enough to miss getting his armour back.

On 12/5/2020 at 11:52 AM, T70 Driver said:

So, the latest episode is named "The Tragedy".

So, which was the tragedy?

1: Having Grogu kidnapped by Dark Troopers.

2: Seeing the Razorcrest obliterated from orbit by Moff Gideon's Arquitens light cruiser.

I'm going with #2. 😭

Both

Just like Return of the Jedi can be interpreted in three ways ... from a Certain Point of View.

13 hours ago, KCDodger said:

Bless you

———-

I was asked where Fett gets rockets for his Z-6 jet pack .

Presumably, Slave I* would have a stash of them. How well they’ve aged is beyond me (though perhaps the targeting issue in the Episode is a sign of old ordinance**), but it’s likely that he would have a supply of them.

I also assume he has contacts who can supply him with his regular munitions, favorite arms dealer or even underworld techie that can fabricate his stuff.

Hondo Ohnaka :

"They said you were dead!!!”

“I am SO HAPPY to see you. Ummm ... Er, um about those credits I owe you ... I invested them in this (what seemed remarkably at the time) lucrative blasters for bone broth deal and you see ... "

*Props to West End Games for giving Slave I it’s backstory and class of ship.

** I edit Wookieepedia, I can make that lore Canon.

2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

** I edit Wookieepedia, I can make that lore Canon.

Oh, hello there!

Can you add some of this info into the Assault Gunboat entry ?

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

Oh, hello there!

Can you add some of this info into the Assault Gunboat entry ?

Gunboat = Sexy

On 12/5/2020 at 4:52 PM, T70 Driver said:

So, the latest episode is named "The Tragedy".

So, which was the tragedy?

The real tragedy was #3.

The stormtrooper manning the E-web cannon who didn't bget out of the way of the boulder

17 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

It wasn't decades... it was 5 years, and we don't know how long he was in the Sarlacc.

Well, I'm genuinely SUPER embarrassed that I got my timelines so far out of left field... I'm even well aware of when Mandalorian takes place so... just no explanation for that.