On 10/16/2018 at 9:44 AM, RStan said:

But does anything beat @catachanninja driving and talking through his phone that's trying to maintain a connection so we get THE TERMINATOR ZACK?

Shhhh don't out that I'm actually the robot on the cast

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1 minute ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

then FFG nerfed him in 2.0

Did they...?

1 minute ago, Makaze said:

Did they...?

Bombs, by virtue of not going out at Init 10.

Didn't hit hard enough though.

Idk, no dropping bombs while disarmed as well?

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2 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

no dropping bombs

FTFY

4 Crack Sabers leaves 36 points

Del, Hask, ICT Aggressor, and Alpha are strong contenders.

What do you take to fill that slot?

Or do you do 4 Crack Shot Strikers and a Predator Duchess?

Crack shot has to be workable in 2.0 i feel it.

Go for the bid!

Crack shot works well on ships that can double reposition with decent board state knowledge. i4 sabers can br/boost into range one out of arc and just put their faith into natties and punch it through with crack.

9 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

4 Crack Sabers leaves 36 points

Del, Hask, ICT Aggressor, and Alpha are strong contenders.

What do you take to fill that slot?

Or do you do 4 Crack Shot Strikers and a Predator Duchess?

Crack shot has to be workable in 2.0 i feel it.

I've run this squad a few times with Crack Shot Hask. I like Hask because he replicates the firepower and initiative of the Sabers. I'm cooler on Del (but haven't tried him), because the riskiest time for these ships is on approach, and Del is less likely to help there. He's good once things are close and damage is in, but usually blocking and smart maneuvers can get the job done at that stage.

The alpha seems perfectly good as a blocker, but I1 vs I4. That's fine, it just depends on what you're going for. I have 4 Interceptors, not 5, so the decision there was easier.

35 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

I've run this squad a few times with Crack Shot Hask. I like Hask because he replicates the firepower and initiative of the Sabers. I'm cooler on Del (but haven't tried him), because the riskiest time for these ships is on approach, and Del is less likely to help there. He's good once things are close and damage is in, but usually blocking and smart maneuvers can get the job done at that stage.

The alpha seems perfectly good as a blocker, but I1 vs I4. That's fine, it just depends on what you're going for. I have 4 Interceptors, not 5, so the decision there was easier.

So crack Gideon and a 5 point bid?

1 hour ago, viedit said:

So crack Gideon and a 5 point bid?

I haven't figured out anything I like better so far. My attempts have definitely not been exhaustive, though.

11 hours ago, Biophysical said:

I haven't figured out anything I like better so far. My attempts have definitely not been exhaustive, though.

Lightly loaded Bomber? There are a few interesting load outs you can equip with the eight points.

Proton + bombardier

seismic + bombardier + homing

ion torp

seismics + ion missile

protons + homing

barrage

More

i'm having a lot of fun with boba guri at 191 and I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm seriously tempted to put Afterburners on her for the 3 or 4 straight, bankie-boost, bankie-barrel-roll sick-*** 90º power slide maneuver to go from range 5 to "hi, you're Outmaneuvered. Give me a focus token"

but 199 is a spooky place to be with Guri (Boba for real doesn't care). I know the JOhnson's answer is to overcome my fear and spend the points for the things i want. What does everyone else think?

9 point bid isn't sufficient in my meta. You have to either commit to winning that madness, or just spend the points and enjoy the fruits.

2 hours ago, skotothalamos said:

but 199 is a spooky place to be 

I think 197-198 is a great place. I think many people go with a huge bid, none at all, or just one to win against those who don‘t bid at all.

I have more spent points to deal with those taking a huge bid, and just enough of a bid to go below all the 199-200.

2 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

I think 197-198 is a great place. I think many people go with a huge bid, none at all, or just one to win against those who don‘t bid at all.

I have more spent points to deal with those taking a huge bid, and just enough of a bid to go below all the 199-200.

I agree ... going to 198 wins so many bid wars ... you only lose against people who really care about moving last at i5, and then you have an additional 8-10 points of power in your squad with which to win the game.

5 hours ago, skotothalamos said:

i'm having a lot of fun with boba guri at 191 and I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm seriously tempted to put Afterburners on her for the 3 or 4 straight, bankie-boost, bankie-barrel-roll sick-*** 90º power slide maneuver to go from range 5 to "hi, you're Outmaneuvered. Give me a focus token"

but 199 is a spooky place to be with Guri (Boba for real doesn't care). I know the JOhnson's answer is to overcome my fear and spend the points for the things i want. What does everyone else think?

I think a fat guri that costs more than 70-something points is a mistake. Trim her down, pick up a coordinate shuttle.

On 10/17/2018 at 6:04 PM, Tlfj200 said:

We talked a bit, and he's welcome to jump in or correct, but mostly, he picked the ships he wanted, and filled in the upgrades he wanted, and was left with that bid.

It wasn't a "OMG, GOTTA BE 15 POINTS" kind of thing.

Yep, pretty much. There came a point where adding more upgrades resulted in very negligible gains (for me, as a player). It's just more crap to keep track of, and more points given away.

There's the obvious meme value in going with the disrespectful massive bid for a laugh, of course, but moving last and triggering token-stealing abilities last are clear advantages. They just aren't necessary for the list to function.

7 hours ago, AgencyBurglar said:

9 point bid isn't sufficient in my meta. You have to either commit to winning that madness, or just spend the points and enjoy the fruits.

This is the correct answer, imo.

I think the key is if you have everything you need to execute your win condition, then you settle there, if you have i5 or i6 arc dodgers, well having a good bid contributes to your win condition, but for sure don’t short yourself on upgrades that also contribute to that or have amazing value with your pilots

this weekend my local store is running a 2.0 limited tournament, any opinions on my squad, I find this relevant to the conversion because it’s got a pretty big bid

3 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I think a fat guri that costs more than 70-something points is a mistake. Trim her down, pick up a coordinate shuttle.

So, advanced sensors?

1 minute ago, TheOz said:

I think the key is if you have everything you need to execute your win condition, then you settle there, if you have i5 or i6 arc dodgers, well having a good bid contributes to your win condition, but for sure don’t short yourself on upgrades that also contribute to that or have amazing value with your pilots

this weekend my local store is running a 2.0 limited tournament, any opinions on my squad, I find this relevant to the conversion because it’s got a pretty big bid

Boba Fett — Firespray-31	80
Trick Shot	1
Proton Bombs	5
Marauder	3
Han Solo	4
Ship Total: 93
Fenn Rau — Fang Fighter	68
Fearless	3
Ship Total: 71
L3-37 — Escape Craft	22
Tactical Officer	2
Ship Total: 24
This sits at 188 and the thing is that I don’t think it needs anything else that would still keep a relative decent bid after adding main contenders are lando for l337 or a rigged cargo, but as sweet as they are I don’t thing they add much Lando is more aggressive and defensive, but honestly if they are trying to kill my escape pod...I’m probably winning, and if I need the shuttles contributing damage...I’m probably losing and rigged cargo does sound tempting but it’s I got you moment in the game doesn’t feel like it outweighs fenn not moving after other 6’s....so yeah it’s an example of I have everything to complete my win condition so why add anything else

I think you're undervaluing Lando.

8 minutes ago, TheOz said:

I think the key is if you have everything you need to execute your win condition, then you settle there, if you have i5 or i6 arc dodgers, well having a good bid contributes to your win condition, but for sure don’t short yourself on upgrades that also contribute to that or have amazing value with your pilots

this weekend my local store is running a 2.0 limited tournament, any opinions on my squad, I find this relevant to the conversion because it’s got a pretty big bid

Boba Fett — Firespray-31	80
Trick Shot	1
Proton Bombs	5
Marauder	3
Han Solo	4
Ship Total: 93
Fenn Rau — Fang Fighter	68
Fearless	3
Ship Total: 71
L3-37 — Escape Craft	22
Tactical Officer	2
Ship Total: 24
This sits at 188 and the thing is that I don’t think it needs anything else that would still keep a relative decent bid after adding main contenders are lando for l337 or a rigged cargo, but as sweet as they are I don’t thing they add much Lando is more aggressive and defensive, but honestly if they are trying to kill my escape pod...I’m probably winning, and if I need the shuttles contributing damage...I’m probably losing and rigged cargo does sound tempting but it’s I got you moment in the game doesn’t feel like it outweighs fenn not moving after other 6’s....so yeah it’s an example of I have everything to complete my win condition so why add anything else

I think you're undervaluing Rigged Cargo

12 minutes ago, TheOz said:

I think the key is if you have everything you need to execute your win condition, then you settle there, if you have i5 or i6 arc dodgers, well having a good bid contributes to your win condition, but for sure don’t short yourself on upgrades that also contribute to that or have amazing value with your pilots

this weekend my local store is running a 2.0 limited tournament, any opinions on my squad, I find this relevant to the conversion because it’s got a pretty big bid

Boba Fett — Firespray-31	80
Trick Shot	1
Proton Bombs	5
Marauder	3
Han Solo	4
Ship Total: 93
Fenn Rau — Fang Fighter	68
Fearless	3
Ship Total: 71
L3-37 — Escape Craft	22
Tactical Officer	2
Ship Total: 24
This sits at 188 and the thing is that I don’t think it needs anything else that would still keep a relative decent bid after adding main contenders are lando for l337 or a rigged cargo, but as sweet as they are I don’t thing they add much Lando is more aggressive and defensive, but honestly if they are trying to kill my escape pod...I’m probably winning, and if I need the shuttles contributing damage...I’m probably losing and rigged cargo does sound tempting but it’s I got you moment in the game doesn’t feel like it outweighs fenn not moving after other 6’s....so yeah it’s an example of I have everything to complete my win condition so why add anything else

I think you're undervaluing the community's willingness to drop insane bids.