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By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, in X-Wing Off-Topic

19 hours ago, McFoy said:

A sense of self consistent with my physical body and acceptance into society.

Enjoy your life of HRT, grooming the mentally ill, and if you go Post Op, a festering wound. Seriously, wouldn't recommend it.

Wonderful. Hope someday you develop some empathy.

@KCDodger , he's not worth the second thought because he’s certainly not giving anybody else one. Good luck to you for the future.

19 hours ago, McFoy said:

A sense of self consistent with my physical body and acceptance into society.

Enjoy your life of HRT, grooming the mentally ill, and if you go Post Op, a festering wound. Seriously, wouldn't recommend it.

The more I scroll down the worse it gets!

17 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

There's a lot of times we've not seen eye to eye and I'll acknowledge that as personalities we seem to rub against each other the wrong way (sometimes that's just how it is), but I want to be clear that I'm genuinely sorry that this sort of thing is something you have to go through for just being you. It appals me that these are the depths some people will plumb for "ammunition".

For whatever it's worth, under all the trivial bullsh**, I'm on your side as a human.

I don't think I need to say anything other than. I agree with the Guac, and him and I haven't seen eye to eye a lot either.

1 hour ago, Ebak said:

Wait, seriously? That 41% that be pulled out of his...is the statistic for transgender suicide?

1) That is a horribly high percentage...

2) McFoy, Dude, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but that is not cool...if that was truly the reason you used that specific number, and only you would know, you're ****ing messed up in the head.

The good news is that number goes down post transition and when a trans person is accepted by friends and family.

Turns out grappling with a key part of your identity is difficult and an accepting social group helps a ton.

20 hours ago, McFoy said:

A sense of self consistent with my physical body and acceptance into society.

Enjoy your life of HRT, grooming the mentally ill, and if you go Post Op, a festering wound. Seriously, wouldn't recommend it.

Nobody classifies being transgender as being mentally ill. It was taken off the "mental illness" list of most institutions a while ago, since it is not a mental illness. It's a condition where your brain does not match your body.

This is proven, not just some bull I'm throwing out. A transgender woman, for example, is a person who is born with a woman's brain (and thus her body wants estrogen), but is trapped in a body that does not produce estrogen on its own. That's what transitioning is for: to introduce your body to the hormones you are supposed to have, regardless if that's estrogen for transgender women or testosterone for transgender men.

On top of that, gender confirming surgery hardly leaves people with a "festering wound". You're suggesting that doctors just cut a hole in someone, when that isn't the case. Surgeons are capable of building a p**** or a v***** (only censoring because the forums do it automatically, even though those aren't bad words) and have been doing procedures such as that for a long time, not just for transgender people, either, but also for cis people that do not have fully developed genitals.

tldr stop spreading hate. It hurts people. You should perhaps actually research the **** you are about to spew out of your mouth instead of spreading hate speech that isn't even using correct info. If you are not capable of thinking about others or caring about others, then know that you look like a dipshit when making transphobic remarks, so people think less of you. If you can't care about others, at least make yourself look like less of a dipshit

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3 hours ago, Ebak said:

That's up to you. Personally...she's a horrid person, but I don't think it should impact your love for a franchise. If it does, then...it is what it is...you can't help feel the way you do.

I personally still enjoy and absorb Potter content, but am firmly in the camp of "You're an a**hole, JK".

I had a very long conversation with a friend about my conflicting thoughts over the series, particularly with Legend of Hogwarts coming out, and I came to realise that, whether I buy it or not won't impact her, she's already a millionaire and I dunno if I should punish a developer who make a solid product (presumably, not out yet) just because the original creator is a terrible person. It's an interesting ethical debate, one that I feel...there's no real right answer for, so long as the answer contains in some way "**** you JK."

There is no such thing as ethical consumption. I do not judge someone if they are able to ignore the horribleness of creators. Everyone's line is different. Ubisoft is a company that needs to be burnt to the ground and built up from scratch, but people aren't evil for liking their games and still being eager to get them.

I'm just glad Rowling was never something I got big into. I will say, however, Rowling's issues are going to be persistent, as her recent outing herself as a terrible person sort of colors Fantastic Beasts 2 into different lights.

So video of Trump supporters murdering the capitol police officer is out and apparently "back the blue" really meant "back the blue into a corner, beat them with American flag poles till they pass unconscious, then remove their helmet and murder them with a fire extinguisher".

Trumpers need a short drop

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6 hours ago, LagJanson said:

Wonderful. Hope someday you develop some empathy.

@KCDodger , he's not worth the second thought because he’s certainly not giving anybody else one. Good luck to you for the future.

Oh yeah, for sure. Hit me in DMs to know how to keep up with me. Good luck to you too, Janson. Honestly.

6 hours ago, Ebak said:

Wow. "I did it because, while the thing I cited would be hurtful to that person and an entire subset of people, I found it funny."

There's comedy, and then there's being a callous, malicious piece of trash. You definitely fit the latter for me and...yeah.

Seriously, it was messed up, and the fact you've had ample opportunity to apologise, or double back on it, and yet you outright pretty much admitted you made it intentionally and are proud of it?

You're the person we should trust the opinion of when it comes to how government should be run? Really?

If you don't like KC, fair enough, but using that as 'effective ammunition' that...is f u c k i n g messed up, and I don't give a crap if I get banned from these forums for 'subverting the censoring', this place is getting shut down in a few weeks anyway.

I'm going to miss people like @KCDodger , and @Darth Meanie and a few others from here. Yes, I don't always see eye to eye with them, they can come off as very opinionated. However, they've not given me any indication that they are terrible awful people like you have today. Not that you care.

I do my best. You're a good dude too Ebak. Know that I always do care, though. ❤️

6 hours ago, Ebak said:

Wait, seriously? That 41% that be pulled out of his...is the statistic for transgender suicide?

1) That is a horribly high percentage...

2) McFoy, Dude, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but that is not cool...if that was truly the reason you used that specific number, and only you would know, you're ****ing messed up in the head.

Well yeah, like, that's what people like him do.

23 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

There's a lot of times we've not seen eye to eye and I'll acknowledge that as personalities we seem to rub against each other the wrong way (sometimes that's just how it is), but I want to be clear that I'm genuinely sorry that this sort of thing is something you have to go through for just being you. It appals me that these are the depths some people will plumb for "ammunition".

For whatever it's worth, under all the trivial bullsh**, I'm on your side as a human.

You're hard nosed on your opinions and sometimes we clash, but you've never come off as a bad dude Guac. Hit me in DMs if you wanna' keep up after all this, and I sincerely appreciate your support. Greatly. This really is common fare for somebody who's trans, because we get accused of so much stuff that's never even been remotely true and folks legit wanna' see us die. It's a rough world. But having support is what keeps me going. So thank you for it, genuinely.

14 hours ago, Kyle Ren said:

Wanted to take one last look in on the forums before they go, holy **** a lot of lines were crossed that in the days this forum was actually moderated never would have been tolerated. Like seriously, bullying, hate speech, and wishing harm on someone for who they are and then finding it funny is really messed up, seek professional help because nobody here can help you.

KCDodger, I'm sorry the forums had to go out like this, you're one of the few people left here who I'm going to miss when this place is gone. I guess let's try to remember these forums for what they once were because yeah, I don't wanna think I spent all those years of my life visiting a place this bad

Trust me, I'll never forget the good times here and especially the years I spent managing the fattest thread on this forum, the Star Wars: Rebels thread. That's my greatest achievement on here. That, and forcing McSoy's mask off.

On 1/9/2021 at 4:14 PM, gryffindorhouse said:

**** off, dude, **** off

You love to see it. You're awesome.

10 hours ago, pheaver said:

Hooooly crap. I thought that 41% was just a random number he pulled out, but then he went full anti-trans. This guy is seriously messed up. Is this anyone I might know, or just some rando internet troll?

Seriously, you aren't a valuable human. You can fall off the face of the earth tomorrow and the world won't miss you.

And yeah, a lot of the rest of you are good people. Go to the Krayt discord, that's where the other good people are at (irony!).

Hey Paul! Glad to see a champ showing support. I might hit up the Krayts, because I've actually flown against them before in Squadrons competitively! Y'all do great work.

10 hours ago, Timathius said:

“Festering wound” actually describes you as a person McSoy.

jesus how hard is it to just let people live? I thought that’s what conservatives wanted. Guess that was them veiling “no only when I agree with it” again.

They don't let us be, because they're terrified of us. We threaten the status quo they hold OH so dear...

...Their safe space, if you will. :D

5 hours ago, jagsba said:

The good news is that number goes down post transition and when a trans person is accepted by friends and family.

Turns out grappling with a key part of your identity is difficult and an accepting social group helps a ton.

And that's what I do! Hopefully I can be a counselor for other transfolk someday. We need it.

39 minutes ago, All Shields Forward said:

So video of Trump supporters murdering the capitol police officer is out and apparently "back the blue" really meant "back the blue into a corner, beat them with American flag poles till they pass unconscious, then remove their helmet and murder them with a fire extinguisher".

Trumpers need a short drop

Honestly, Back The Blue and Blue Lives Matter was only ever to silence Black Lives Matter, and it REALLY shows.

On 1/9/2021 at 4:10 PM, McFoy said:

A sense of self consistent with my physical body and acceptance into society.

Enjoy your life of HRT, grooming the mentally ill, and if you go Post Op, a festering wound. Seriously, wouldn't recommend it.

Haha, wow, mask off. Told y'all for years! :P

I'm very happy with my body these days tbh. A little heavy and I'm weaker than I once was, but I've gotten so much in turn thanks to these medications and a space where I'm allowed to exist, but!

1: HRT rocks. You wouldn't believe these **** man.
2: Grooming? Nah. Giving them a space to figure stuff out.
3: Festering wound? Surgery's pretty amazing these days, but honestly I like the set I've got now. But you wouldn't get that, I don't think. Complex gender expression is way way way too hard for you.

As for acceptance... The only one to ever reject me is my blood family. Everyone else? I'm Kara, and nobody has any trouble with it. Especially not my wonderful, beautiful girlfriend who very literally saved my life.

Look at all this support. Look at all these people who are good, and like me and will miss me. Then look in a mirror and see that it could'a been you too... but you made **** sure it wasn't.

So get ******.

Among the worst things about this forum is that we never got a care reacc

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3 minutes ago, Kyle Ren said:

Among the worst things about this forum is that we never got a care reacc

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I agree

29 minutes ago, Kyle Ren said:

Among the worst things about this forum is that we never got a care reacc

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27 minutes ago, jagsba said:

I agree

Awww!! Thanks you two. ❤️

4 hours ago, jagsba said:

I agree

I agree

Baby Krayts say trans rights

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6 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

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I love it, thank you. I don't think you grasp the format of the meme but it involves me so A+.

I will admit the support is impressive. I never expected so many people to take the brave and bold stance of condemning Anti Trans behaviour on the internet. Keeping your bait and tackle is also quite prudent. That way when it's no longer convenient for you and your girlfriend to be women you can go back to being regular gay men, with like zero effort. Unless you really do have rockin' **** cause that would be awkward and highly improbable. You can just pass them of as moobs.

As much as I cannot recommend SRS, I do respect those that get for the commitment to their beliefs. Fair weather Trannies are really just in it for the benefits IMO, no skin in the game so to speak.

they know how to be decent people though, unlike fair weather Americans waving the Trump flag

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1 hour ago, McFoy said:

I love it, thank you. I don't think you grasp the format of the meme but it involves me so A+.

I will admit the support is impressive. I never expected so many people to take the brave and bold stance of condemning Anti Trans behaviour on the internet. Keeping your bait and tackle is also quite prudent. That way when it's no longer convenient for you and your girlfriend to be women you can go back to being regular gay men, with like zero effort. Unless you really do have rockin' **** cause that would be awkward and highly improbable. You can just pass them of as moobs.

As much as I cannot recommend SRS, I do respect those that get for the commitment to their beliefs. Fair weather Trannies are really just in it for the benefits IMO, no skin in the game so to speak.

lmao the ******* detransition rate is less than 1% you loser, hahaha.

Anyway my girl's been trans for ten years. As for benefit we basically get none.

It's really amazing how little you know. Honestly. Your information is entirely memes.

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11 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

lmao the ******* detransition rate is less than 1% you loser, hahaha.

Anyway my girl's been trans for ten years. As for benefit we basically get none.

It's really amazing how little you know. Honestly. Your information is entirely memes.

Not saying it's common, just insanely easy. Pop some test and you're good. The trans man detransition rate is higher iiec which is weird, you'd think they'd want to stay in the patriarchy.

God imagine looking at interactions like this and thinking anyone would chose to be trans for "convenience"

Galaxy brain

It's their lack of critical thinking and most importantly empathy.

I am not a person with an excess of human empathy. My early adult life was pretty much "I want to be a good person, and good people have concern for the well-being of others, so I should have a concern for the well-being of others". It is largely learned for me, not instinctive. I say this because I want it to be understood that I'm not coming from a place where there is a wellspring of softhearted human kindness. I'm coming from a place that is trying to manufacture B- level human kindness as best able.

I don't have to understand why people feel the way they do, trans, homosexual, asexual, or anything else. It doesn't matter if I, or anyone else, agrees with or approves what they're feeling or the decisions they make. The only thing that matters is it's important, often desperately important, to the people making these choices, and it's not causing harm to anyone else. Even my low-grade human empathy can understand that. People wouldn't put themselves through the difficulty and challenges of following a less-traveled path just for fun, or attention, or whatever reason that some person thinks. They make these decisions because it's tremendously important to them, so important that they risk alienation from loved ones and friends.

It's important and they're not harming anyone, that's reason enough to support these decisions and the people that make them.

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@KCDodger

Yeah, McFoy is absolute human garbage. I always wonder what causes them to make these decisions: "look how many of my peers think my views are odious and I'm terrible, and how little support I receive! This must be their fault, not mine!" Is it a crappy childhood? Not enough hugs from your parents? What weird psychological issues cause people to think this behavior is acceptable?

On 1/9/2021 at 11:16 AM, Sithborg said:

Empathy, more than anything, has killed any potential right wing interest I had.

Lack of empathy from right-wingers is what has driven me from the right wing. Trump and his cult has done more to push me left than any lefty evangelism. Morality was shown to be a liquid asset of the right, which has been incredibly evident in the most recent example with Blue Lives Matter and attacking the police at the US Capitol. I could deny these hypocrisies when I saw it in pundits and extremists, but when the moral liquidity started coming from friends and family, it exposed that these folks didn't actually believe what they said they believed. I'm certain there are plenty that had moral integrity and still do, but I'm not seeing them, IRL or online. I have one or two friends on the right that still stand by what they say, but they too are struggling with the duplicity of the right.

On 1/9/2021 at 11:16 AM, Sithborg said:

I will admit, I do not fully understand gender issues.

Same, buddy. Same. But hopefully showing empathy and at least trying to understand and failing still counts for something.

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On 1/9/2021 at 11:16 AM, Sithborg said:

I will admit, I do not fully understand gender issues.

1 hour ago, 5050Saint said:

Same, buddy. Same. But hopefully showing empathy and at least trying to understand and failing still counts for something.

I know others besides KC who are on this path. Despite seeing the journey It's not something I can ever really understand because I'm not that person with those feelings and needs.

Just like I'll never truly understand being Black in America.

Just like I'll never truly understand wanting children.

Just like I'll never truly understand religious faith.

However, I've been all over the globe, and the 1 thing I can understand is that everyone wants to be happy. And I also understand, because I've seen lots of happy people that aren't like me, that there are hundreds of life paths to get there.

2 hours ago, Chumbalaya said:

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@KCDodger

So, yeah, this.

Love ya, @KCDodger

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

I know others besides KC who are on this path. Despite seeing the journey It's not something I can ever really understand because I'm not that person with those feelings and needs.

Just like I'll never truly understand being Black in America.

Just like I'll never truly understand wanting children.

Just like I'll never truly understand religious faith.

However, I've been all over the globe, and the 1 thing I can understand is that everyone wants to be happy. And I also understand, because I've seen lots of happy people that aren't like me, that there are hundreds of life paths to get there.

So, yeah, this.

Love ya, @KCDodger

Awww! Thank you, Darth. Genuinely.

You're all so good, honestly.