The Mandalorian Season 2! [Spoilers]

By P-47 Thunderbolt, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

13 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

I get that this is a fishing town but do they have to all dress like Norwegian fishermen or something?

Perhaps it's the galaxy's version of Lofoten and Vesterålen?

Boba is high up there, but Tanoohohohohoho!!! That's what I'm most excited about ... so I'm getting ready to be disappointed ... :ph34r:

All the rest sounds like great fun!

It would be interesting to see the Amorer meeting Bo-Katant - or be confronted by Din about the whole thing ... but I'm not hoping.

On 11/14/2020 at 7:38 AM, Mandalore of the Rings said:

At some point I think our Mando will adopt a more standard Mandalorian stance and take his helmet off more.

The series will end back on the farming planet, where he will walk up to the widow and break his chains...

3 hours ago, A7T said:

The group that saved Din was definitely Death Watch. Aside from the Death Watch sigil being the ancient sigil of Clan Vizsla (per The Star Wars Book, it had already fallen out of use within the clan by TCW since their peacetime branch sigil from Rebels predates the Death Watch coup), the Hot Toys figure of the guy that saved Din is straight-up called a Death Watch Mandalorian, while the product description further confirms that the entire group was Death Watch.

That may be. However, as for the shriekhawk sigil, that symbol was still used by Clan Viszla up until the Galactic Civil War. It was still used by the clan during the Clone Wars. The reason why it became associated with Death Watch is because a large majority of House Viszla leadership were indeed members of that group, and most of the members of Death Watch were from House Viszla, to the extent that House Viszla and Death Watch were nearly synonymous. However, once again, not all members of House Viszla were members of Death Watch , and, obviously, not all members of Death Watch were House Viszla.

Now, the Children of the Watch is definitely a different sect all together. For one thing their ideology is different from Death Watch , particularly when it comes to removing their helmets, for starters. Members of Death Watch had no trouble removing their helmets whenever they wanted. We see Pre Viszla do it all the time. They also weren’t religious zealots . Death Watch may have wanted to maintain Mandalorian warrior tradition, but the Children of the Watch were much more radical, basically wanting to turn the clock back to the days of Mand’alor the Great when Mandalorians worshiped war as a religion. They were strict fundamentalists. That is very different from Death Watch . Not only that, but it is former members of Death Watch itself (remember, all three of Bo Katan’s group were Nite Owls , and were part of Death Watch up until Maul’s takeover) referring to The Children of the Watch as a separate splinter sect, a cult, that sought to return to the ancient ways.

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1 hour ago, Jegergryte said:

Boba is high up there, but Tanoohohohohoho!!! That's what I'm most excited about ... so I'm getting ready to be disappointed

Yeah, those would be my highest two as well... so trying not to get my hopes up as well.

19 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

They also weren’t religious zealots .

I get the analogy, but what makes the Children of the Watch religious? (I mean in the show, I guess). Certainly, they are zealous or fundamental but I haven't really seen any "worship" of anything. They do have ceremonies and jargon, but not a lot else has been shown, unless I missed something.

It was also interesting that Din said "that planet is cursed" in reference to Mandalore. I would have expected the Watch to want to go back there. Maybe that is part of the brainwashing, that they stay on the outskirts of Mandalorian society and are warned not to go back to the homeworld. Certainly are religious cult parallels but not sure what their belief system is supposed to be, apart from a list of dos and don'ts I guess. Interesting.

1 hour ago, Jegergryte said:

Lofoten and Vesterålen?

Gonna have to research these two places! They sound like places I'd like to visit (haha, just not in 2020!)

Just now, Mandalore of the Rings said:

It was also interesting that Din said "that planet is cursed" in reference to Mandalore. I would have expected the Watch to want to go back there. Maybe that is part of the brainwashing, that they stay on the outskirts of Mandalorian society and are warned not to go back to the homeworld. Certainly are religious cult parallels but not sure what their belief system is supposed to be, apart from a list of dos and don'ts I guess. Interesting.

From what Bo Katan said, it sounds like the Imperials were BSing and the Children of the Watch just didn't know better. In Canon, they did something similar regarding Anoat.

"The way of the Mand'alor (or perhaps Mandalore)" is probably comparable to the Resol'nare, with a slightly more extreme understanding of some of the tenets. Wear the armor, speak the language (not seeing much of that. Hmph), defend oneself and family, contribute to the clan's welfare, raise your children as Mandalorians, and heed the call of the Mand'alor.

Basic point I'm seeing is just a more dramatic interpretation of wearing the armor, specifying that they can't take the helmet off.

If you want to know more, I'd suggest looking up "Mandalorians/Legends" on Wookieepedia, and scroll down to the culture section. There's a lot of lore there, and it'll help you gain a better understanding of what the Mandalorians were in Legends, which will help you understand what's currently happening. Not that it's the same, but it'll give you a better understanding going into it. At the very least, it'll give you more food for theorizing. :)

6 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Yeah, those would be my highest two as well... so trying not to get my hopes up as well.

I get the analogy, but what makes the Children of the Watch religious? (I mean in the show, I guess). Certainly, they are zealous or fundamental but I haven't really seen any "worship" of anything. They do have ceremonies and jargon, but not a lot else has been shown, unless I missed something.

It was also interesting that Din said "that planet is cursed" in reference to Mandalore. I would have expected the Watch to want to go back there. Maybe that is part of the brainwashing, that they stay on the outskirts of Mandalorian society and are warned not to go back to the homeworld. Certainly are religious cult parallels but not sure what their belief system is supposed to be, apart from a list of dos and don'ts I guess. Interesting.

Gonna have to research these two places! They sound like places I'd like to visit (haha, just not in 2020!)

Their belief system, according to Bo Katan was known as The Way of the Mandalore . We don’t have full details of all of their beliefs, though the prohibition from removing one’s helmet in front of others was a huge part of them.

2 hours ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Their belief system, according to Bo Katan was known as The Way of the Mandalore . We don’t have full details of all of their beliefs, though the prohibition from removing one’s helmet in front of others was a huge part of them.

So how do they snog! No wonder they need foundlings to keep the cult going. They’re like the Mandalorian version of the Shakers.

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13 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

At least the “ackshewally” didn’t come with the normal random “emphasis.”

I had to google that term, it went over my head. It resulted in several images, with one very common. Now that's reserved in my head as a visual.

4 hours ago, Dazgrim said:

Fett survived in the EU too. Lucas is quoted in a number of places having planned to have him shown staggering out, but not really having any further use for the character in that film the idea was dropped.

I know that.... but he's still dead to me 😂

It seemed like Bo Katan was hot for Mando at the end.

4 minutes ago, Eoen said:

It seemed like Bo Katan was hot for Mando at the end.

Err... No. I really don't think so.

I think that smile was more of a "Good grief you're an idiot, but a pretty skilled one. Good luck!" sort of thing.

Besides, she's... what? Fifty? Sixty?

Oh my. She really is. She aged really well. I hadn't fully processed just how old she is until just now.

9 hours ago, Dazgrim said:

Fett survived in the EU too. Lucas is quoted in a number of places having planned to have him shown staggering out, but not really having any further use for the character in that film the idea was dropped.

I thought the whole point of him going out like a punk was that Lucas hated how popular the character had become.

9 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Err... No. I really don't think so.

I think that smile was more of a "Good grief you're an idiot, but a pretty skilled one. Good luck!" sort of thing.

Besides, she's... what? Fifty? Sixty?

Oh my. She really is. She aged really well. I hadn't fully processed just how old she is until just now.

I can see Bo Katan being a cougar.

22 minutes ago, Vorzakk said:

I stand corrected.

All good, I'll even allow you to sit 😉

I like that the current direction of the Mandalorian is a live action sequel to Clone Wars and Rebels.

17 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Besides, she's... what? Fifty? Sixty?

Well so what? She's still fit and hot! :wub: Oh wait, that's in my ballpark... :D

Ain't nothing like an authoritative woman in battle armor!

I'm liking how they're slowly showing us what happened to Mandalore after RotJ, and I hope we get to see it one day

I think it's more about what happened to Mandalore during the original trilogy. The Purge strikes me as something that would require the actual Empire, not the Imperial Leftovers. The Mandalorian stuff in Rebels did end with Mandalorian declaring open rebellion against the Empire and Bo-Katan planning to kick Imperial Forces off the planet. I reckon the Purge was a reaction to that.

7 hours ago, Dazgrim said:

I like that the current direction of the Mandalorian is a live action sequel to Clone Wars and Rebels.

I liked the episode and I like the fact that the lore is being build on, but I am afraid that the show is mostly being watched by people that have no idea about Bo Katan, the dark saber, even Asokah.

11 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

I liked the episode and I like the fact that the lore is being build on, but I am afraid that the show is mostly being watched by people that have no idea about Bo Katan, the dark saber, even Asokah.

That's not something that should cause you fear, fear leads to the Dark Side.

It is more likely, in these days of global restrictions on travel and socialisation, to get people to look again at what they may have previously dismissed as childish.

It's building upon the legacy of the original trilogy and the animated series, pulling together threads and adding to the rich tapestry that is Star Wars.

I'm hoping that we'll get glimpses into the uniting of the various Mandalorian clans and factions, the reacquisition of the Darksaber (this is kind of a given that we'll see more of, given who has it and all that), and potentially parts of the retaking of Mandalore ...

58 minutes ago, Dazgrim said:

It is more likely, in these days of global restrictions on travel and socialisation, to get people to look again at what they may have previously dismissed as childish.

I like your positive attitude but I don’t think that is ”likely” at all, however unfortunate that might be.

4 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

I liked the episode and I like the fact that the lore is being build on, but I am afraid that the show is mostly being watched by people that have no idea about Bo Katan, the dark saber, even Asokah.

Oh they will! They will.