The Mandalorian Season 2! [Spoilers]

By P-47 Thunderbolt, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

IMO, this episode looked great, but was overall kinda crap.

6 hours ago, DarkHorse said:

I both utterly hate and like the name at the same time.

lol, yeah, I get it's a reference to Filoni's signature love, but dude, shake things up a bit please?!

Is no one bothered by the child eating that woman's children? I was weirded out they were playing it for laughs.

Enjoyed the monster parts of the episode though.

16 minutes ago, Inquisitor Tremayne said:

Is no one bothered by the child eating that woman's children? I was weirded out they were playing it for laughs.

I certainly was. Yeesh.

Technically they were just eggs, as they hadn't been fertilized yet.

If it was just Baby Yoda eating frog eggs, it wouldn't be weird. But it's a sentient frog, so yeesh. We do know he likes eating frogs, though.

21 minutes ago, Inquisitor Tremayne said:

Is no one bothered by the child eating that woman's children? I was weirded out they were playing it for laughs.

Enjoyed the monster parts of the episode though.

See my earlier post, re: his snacking both reminding the audience that he's very food motivated to set up the big climax of the episode and also demonstrating that it reinforces that he's not getting a great example of behavior.

In other words, I think you were supposed to be bothered by it.

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I actually love Trapper Wolf. Very Lucasian; riding the line of silly and pulpy and names kids come up with. Much preferred to EU-style Vilsbak Brilpar or Indaf Petnu or whatever other 4-syllable name that's impossible to remember!

2 hours ago, wilsch said:

Much preferred to EU-style Vilsbak Brilpar or Indaf Petnu or whatever other 4-syllable name that's impossible to remember!

Well, when you put it that way...I have to agree! 😁

*shrugs*

Both styles of naming work for me, even in the same area. While the Basic language is just about everywhere, there probably are a lot of local languages and not-entirely-assimilated cultures which give non-Trapper Wolf style names to their kids.

What I'm not fond of are the entirely-too-obvious Tuckerisms. While I like the celebrities to which they refer, I'm never going to accept Stewjon as being Kenobi's world of origin, nor Colstev in the same system.

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I can't see any problem with Trapper Wolf as a name when we also have Wulf Yularen, Conan Antonio Motti, Cornelio Evazan, Maximilian Veers, Chewbacca, Greedo, and Luke Skywalker.

Tuckerisms (half of which I don't get because I don't know all that many celebrities), cheaty names (calculator-speak droid names, for instance), etc. don't jive well with me.

If the name "Trapper Wolf" was supposed to be taken seriously (or actually spoken in the show), I wouldn't like it. As a behind the scenes Easter egg, I don't mind.

As for naming conventions, it depends. I think I'm generally pretty good at coming up with names, one of my favorites being "Kurak Rijas" for a Devaronian police detective.

I try to tailor names to the species or culture, subtly adjusting the sounds, length, spelling, etc. to get something that sounds good, is memorable, makes sense for the species, and has the right feel for the character.

Again I go back to Kurak Rijas (KUU-rok REE-haas). In my opinion, it rolls off the tongue nicely and has a tough, stubborn sound to it, befitting the character. The sound also seems about right for Devaronians, and is just earthlingy enough to be both easy to pronounce and memorable.

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14 hours ago, Tramp Graphics said:

What’s wrong with it?

Umm, it's objectively stupid. :)

I put the smiley faces in the last post to show I was a being a bit silly. I really don't care about it. I like Filoni and actually, like wolves too. I understand about sci fi naming conventions (Skywalker is kind of silly too, as is Biggs Darklighter, I mean, seriously? Biggs? Darklighter? Just like Lord of the Rings hobbit names are silly. Bumpo Hairyshins?) My kids and I have fun making our own silly names for our EotE campaigns (both for pcs and npcs). I wasn't really being seriously critical of the show or Dave Filoni in the previous post. Maybe that wasn't obvious enough.

But just say it out loud, right now. "Trapper Wolf". I dare you to not giggle or even smirk a bit. You've got to admit, it's pretty silly.

For some reason I didn't notice all the other comments on the topic.

2 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

If the name "Trapper Wolf" was supposed to be taken seriously (or actually spoken in the show), I wouldn't like it. As a behind the scenes Easter egg, I don't mind.

Yeah, I agree. It's an Easter egg I wish I didn't know (kidding). Also, that was my point about actually say it out loud and try not to grin a bit. It's silly. But it's fine.

2 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

Wulf Yularen, Conan Antonio Motti, Cornelio Evazan, Maximilian Veers,

These one's all sound fine to me. Wulf Yularen is so much better than Trapper WOLF. :)

Hmm, so, Star Wars names. Umm. How many more days till Chapter 11?

3 hours ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

How many more days till Chapter 11?

I thought that someone had said that all the episodes for season 2 had dropped together

Have they not done so, or is it different from country to country?

41 minutes ago, Bellona said:

I thought that someone had said that all the episodes for season 2 had dropped together

Have they not done so, or is it different from country to country?

They drop one per week, on Friday. This is the same everywhere.

1 hour ago, Bellona said:

I thought that someone had said that all the episodes for season 2 had dropped together

Have they not done so, or is it different from country to country?

Yeah, if they had we'd probably all have binged them by now... So I guess it's kinda fun to have them rationed out... savour each one and dissect/discuss it ad nauseam until the next one comes out. Adds to the whole old school feel of the show too. I think it was a good decision on Disney's part. The writing feels like old school westerns, the music seems out of spaghetti westerns and even the delivery of one per week gives it a nostalgic feel. I haven't had this much fun with weekly episodes since Lost. Hopefully the end works out in a more satisfying way. :)

On 10/31/2020 at 6:17 PM, CloudyLemonade92 said:

Loved it! Awesome episode.

Krayt Dragon was a little different from the games I must admit (Not necessarily bad!). This version, which is now canon, was more worm like to an extent, I was hoping its legs would come up above ground but that didn't happen. Seemed to stay somewhat submerged in the sand and burrow like a worm.

Also... acid spitting???? AWESOME.

Burrowing through the sand, like a worm. Maybe some sort of Sand Worm?

I really enjoyed the first episode, it was a great Dune homage.

The second one was a little odder, the no FTL travel threw out my suspension of disbelief.

On 11/8/2020 at 8:55 AM, Mandalore of the Rings said:

I think I only utterly hate it. Stupid name.

In a squadron with Sash Ketter and Jib Dodger, he has some seriously stiff competition...

In all fairness, no worse than the names I come up with for my NPCs.

I'm not entirely sure why the sublight thing keeps throwing people off, I mean, I get your explanations. I just don't see the issue.

Heir to the Jedi had some nice comments on distance and time, and the old book series. ... err... black fleet crisis? perhaps? Had some sublight travel going on - which was, as I recall, based on the Voyager 1 and 2 tech concerning speed ... but considering the inertial dampeners, that we have no idea how fast these things can accelerate, nor how far away the planet is - except a "long ride", meaning that travelling to a nearby (in an interstellar perspective) system (or rogue, sun-less planets) doesn't have to take that long - and the pirate comment means that this is possibly not that odd or rare a thing in the outer rim at least, when you're travelling on a budget over short(ish) distances (within a sector, at least to nearby systems).

It opens up new avenues of travel and storytelling, that's what it does to me anyway.

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1 hour ago, Edgehawk said:

In a squadron with Sash Ketter and Jib Dodger, he has some seriously stiff competition...

In all fairness, no worse than the names I come up with for my NPCs.

Yah man. The writers on this show is nothing compared to me when it comes to **** names for NPCs ... :ph34r:

4 hours ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Yeah, if they had we'd probably all have binged them by now... So I guess it's kinda fun to have them rationed out... savour each one and dissect/discuss it ad nauseam until the next one comes out. Adds to the whole old school feel of the show too. I think it was a good decision on Disney's part. The writing feels like old school westerns, the music seems out of spaghetti westerns and even the delivery of one per week gives it a nostalgic feel. I haven't had this much fun with weekly episodes since Lost. Hopefully the end works out in a more satisfying way. :)

I agree.

One side effect is that we are protected from spoilers, because not everyone has the time to sit down at four in the morning and watch ~five to six hours of content. If they all dropped at once, we'd be swamped by spoilers to the point where it would be impossible to avoid. With the one per week, it is much easier to avoid spoilers for things you haven't seen yet.

It’s kinda funny. To the best of my knowledge, Netflix is the only streaming service that has adopted the model of dropping an entire season at once (wisely, usually on a Friday to allow those so inclined to take the weekend to binge the season). And yet, viewers seem to expect all of the other services - Hulu, Amazon, Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, just to name a few - to follow that same model when they never have, and are surprised when they don’t.

3 hours ago, Jegergryte said:

I'm not entirely sure why the sublight thing keeps throwing people off, I mean, I get your explanations. I just don't see the issue.

I think it's the "sub" plus "light" thing.

Without explanations, sublight speed means below light speed, and thus such drives would take years, decades, centuries, more to travel the distances suggested. That's not what we see on screen without some sort of explanation - such as change the definition of "sublight" or change the distances between stars to something much, much smaller then in our real galaxy.

If instead they were called, "surlight drives", I don't think anyone would be offering explanations.

Hey there's another one, it's just a typo (B for R) from long ago that stuck. :)

9 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

They drop one per week, on Friday. This is the same everywhere.

yeah,,, Disney need people to subscribe... else they'd all end up on Bay of Proxy Pirates like Witcher S1 did and they'd lose more money that they already are :D

3 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I agree.

One side effect is that we are protected from spoilers, because not everyone has the time to sit down at four in the morning and watch ~five to six hours of content. If they all dropped at once, we'd be swamped by spoilers to the point where it would be impossible to avoid. With the one per week, it is much easier to avoid spoilers for things you haven't seen yet.

Spoilers... easy to avoid at home,, ignore all youtube vids and social media... at school, not so much unless you're in my lessons. One (rich) kid was trying to be smart a** over all the other kid's who's parents can just about get through each week hand to mouth, let alone take their kids to the 'flicks', starting giving away the plot of Avengers: Endgame.... I casually wandered over, gritted my teeth and said in my usual volume of voice.... get your stuff and get out my class... he immediatley shut up, the kids around him went silent and he sheepishly got all his stuff and took himself off to the Inclusion Room....other kids were ready to lynch him and I probably did him a favor. There wasn't any aggro on the buses later so I think he got a lift home off parents for few days instead :D

(....because I was planning to see it on the Sunday myself...) Yeah I hate spoliers

1 hour ago, Sturn said:

Without explanations, sublight speed means below light speed, and thus such drives would take years, decades, centuries, more to travel the distances suggested.

That's true, assuming the distance is as great as you seem to presume, and given that the acceleration keeps to our-world limitations. Both of which we cannot determine, but merely specualte wildly about. And safe to say, when dealing with space opera, having the default expectation that they adhere to real-world physics isn't a pragmatic standpoint.

If the distance isn't as great as you seem to presume (I'm thinking you're thinking easily a light year or more, but I may be wrong), and given they have acceleration along the lines of a continuous 1G acceleration (if not higher given the aforementioned inertial dampeners) with no fuel or reaction mass restrictions, then it's not breaking anything. Wherever they were going could be a mere 90 AUs (whatever an AU is in SW) or 120 .... or 400 ... it doesn't really matter. Because we don't know.

Plus as we know they rarely adhere to real-world physics (most indicators goes against that particular presupposition).

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