The Mandalorian Season 2! [Spoilers]

By P-47 Thunderbolt, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Also, I think Cobb Vanth is an Armada player.

"That's not to scale."

5 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

No. I'm having a nice conversation.

Ignore function and rearview, man. It made my forum experience 100% better.

Finally got to the episode, thoroughly enjoyed. Favreau ( and Filoni ) seem to understand that half the appeal is in the little world-building details, like the sand-person brushing the bantha's teeth. The tradition of a "lived-in world" lives on!

Is it just me or are all the blades in the series depicted as vibro weapons? I noticed that in the first seasons there is a blur effect on the blades. The Gamorreans had special axes in their fight as well. I really like this way of treating blades in the setting.

Loved it! Awesome episode.

Krayt Dragon was a little different from the games I must admit (Not necessarily bad!). This version, which is now canon, was more worm like to an extent, I was hoping its legs would come up above ground but that didn't happen. Seemed to stay somewhat submerged in the sand and burrow like a worm.

Also... acid spitting???? AWESOME.

9 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

*Example: "You do know it was Jabba who said that, right?" vs. "Jabba was the one who said that, and I wouldn't take everything he says on its face."

That is just the way people talk. There is zero snark in there.

2 hours ago, Archlyte said:

Is it just me or are all the blades in the series depicted as vibro weapons? I noticed that in the first seasons there is a blur effect on the blades. The Gamorreans had special axes in their fight as well. I really like this way of treating blades in the setting.

Were they??? I thought that they had a personal shield generator that held back the blows and that was what we saw.
I don’t understand how a bolt would penetrate that though...

They could have at least cleaned up the damage from R5’s bad motivator exploding...

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sarlacc

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sarlacc/Legends

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Victims of the sarlacc were injected with immobilizing neurotoxins that caused constant pain, and, while still conscious, digested for millennia [9] due to the creatures weak stomach acid

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Once the victim was swallowed, they made their way into the sarlacc's stomach to be digested, deliberately being kept alive by the beast and digested extremely slowly for a millennium .

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The vessels also gave just enough special sustenance for its prey to enable them to live for centuries while they were digested.

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3 hours ago, CloudyLemonade92 said:

Krayt Dragon was a little different from the games I must admit (Not necessarily bad!). This version, which is now canon, was more worm like to an extent, I was hoping its legs would come up above ground but that didn't happen. Seemed to stay somewhat submerged in the sand and burrow like a worm.

Also... acid spitting???? AWESOME.

Spitting acid gave it a much stronger "dragon" feel.

I also was waiting for it to crawl out of the sand with a few legs.

I need to rewatch, but at the end was it clear if we were seeing the entire dragon on the surface, or maybe just part of it with a large amount still under the sand?

1 hour ago, Sturn said:

Spitting acid gave it a much stronger "dragon" feel.

I also was waiting for it to crawl out of the sand with a few legs.

I need to rewatch, but at the end was it clear if we were seeing the entire dragon on the surface, or maybe just part of it with a large amount still under the sand?

The Krayt skeleton from the movies also was legless if I recall correctly.

5 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

That citation is from a card game. I don’t think that has been as rigorously looked over as other things have. Also, there is no mention of stasis or how normal longevity factors into things.

I posted three quotes from Wookiepedia (one under a Canon tab) that you must admit at least suggests the sarlacc was keeping victims alive. One of them was, " gave just enough special sustenance for its prey to enable them to live for centuries while they were digested". You previously responded to my nearly equal suggestion, " There has to be some sort of stasis going on to prevent victims from dying of old age", that it was, "some strange logic". If you are so dismissive of Wookiepedia's logic or research on the matter, you may wish to propose an edit to have them remove these quotes.

18 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

The Krayt skeleton from the movies also was legless if I recall correctly.

I would agree, if you are speaking of the skeleton C3PO sees. I think it was WEG that first morphed it into having legs. If you google krayt dragon for images, nearly everything seems to give it legs (in fact I can't currently find one that doesn't give it legs). I believe their speculation was the skeletal remains were only part of the dragon, the rest of the skeleton was missing, under the sand, or out of view in some way.

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17 minutes ago, Sturn said:

I posted three quotes from Wookiepedia (one under a Canon tab) that you must admit at least suggests the sarlacc was keeping victims alive. One of them was, " gave just enough special sustenance for its prey to enable them to live for centuries while they were digested". You previously responded to my nearly equal suggestion, " There has to be some sort of stasis going on to prevent victims from dying of old age", that it was, "some strange logic". If you are so dismissive of Wookiepedia's logic or research on the matter, you may wish to propose an edit to have them remove these quotes.

The bit about it having very weak acid is ex-canon as of yesterday.

As for being dismissive of Wookiepedia's logic or research, I more dismissive of the actual writers who have been completely unable to imagine Star Wars characters to use hyperbole, lie, or just plain not know what they are talking about. This kind of attitude also means the Star Wars universe can't ever have myths that are not 100% true. And whenever two characters say different things about the same subject, 20 years apart, canon must be twisted so that they are both correct. This gets ridiculous when four different writers, independently from each other and without any kind of oversight, are each going to tell the tale of how the Death Star plans got stolen.

It's one of the things I dislike most about many fandoms.

It's also one of the things I love about Dragon Age, where pretty much 100% of the lore comes from very unreliable sources and often turns out to be extremely incorrect.

Great episode. Good length. Really fun battle on that first planet. Was that supposed to be Lothal? All the graffiti reminded me of Rebels. I'm gonna have to pause it on the graffiti and see what easter eggs are hidden there.

Maybe a bit much fan service. R5? Is that supposed to be the same one with the bad motivator?! I guess it could be... it's only like 10 years or something after ANH? (5 years after RotJ, right?).

I liked the flashbacks. I hope they still have more Mando flashbacks too. From his childhood or training or something.

Boba wants his pauldrons back. Haha.

So is Boba's jetpack defective? Or is that a bad design thing that Mando knew about? He knew right where to hit it to get Vanth to fly off and that was the same thing that happened to Boba in RotJ, right? I forget.

Yeah, not big on the grandma either, but she's alright I guess.

Didn't like the Tusken dogs as much in RotS, but they've grown on me.

Yeah, totally a Pod Racer engine. Does everything have to be from something else?! Does that mean maybe Rey's was also from some kind of Pod Racer? Does anyone recognize which racer it came from? I'll check one of my kid's books.

Another mention of Spotchz or whatever. Fun.

Wonder what those red eyed creatures were. That was new too. Give us more totally new stuff!

Yeah, pretty huge krayt pearl! My daughter was so excited and immediately looked it up in F&D. Is that were it first came from? Are they get inspiration directly from the RPG?! That would be fun.

The episode had vibes of the Mudhorn episode mixed with the krill farmer's vs raiders episode. I liked it.

How can other Mandalorians help him find The Child's people? Doesn't really make sense.

Also, why wasn't he harmed by the acid? Maybe the acid comes from a different part of the creatures gullet. (Yes, I just said gullet.) Like a bile duct? (yes, I just said bile duct... ewww :)

Cobb Vanth's blaster wasn't so impressive.

He'll probably be back in another episode, just like Dune and Kuill and Iggy were back in later episodes of S1.

Anyhoo... great fun. Wish it had been even longer!!

1 minute ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Yeah, totally a Pod Racer engine. Does everything have to be from something else?! Does that mean maybe Rey's was also from some kind of Pod Racer? Does anyone recognize which racer it came from? I'll check one of my kid's books.

Yeah, pretty huge krayt pearl! My daughter was so excited and immediately looked it up in F&D. Is that were it first came from? Are they get inspiration directly from the RPG?! That would be fun.

How can other Mandalorians help him find The Child's people? Doesn't really make sense.

Also, why wasn't he harmed by the acid? Maybe the acid comes from a different part of the creatures gullet. (Yes, I just said gullet.) Like a bile duct? (yes, I just said bile duct... ewww :)

Not everything, but there's a pretty large amount of podracer scrap on Tatooine since it's part of the racing circuit.

I'm pretty sure Krayt Pearls have been around longer than FaD.

Right now he's looking to contact a covert so that he can "travel through their network." He's also likely anticipating that some Mandalorians will know more than the armorer, or be able to further move him on his journey.

For the acid, my theory is just that he never really hit it. That stuff you see on him is either unrelated, or just some residue he picked up. He certainly wasn't swimming in it.

Thanks.

Also, those Gamorreans were a little underfed. I bet they miss the good meals they got from Jabba.

Did anyone else see Constable Zuvio watching the fight? Hahaha. I know it wasn't really him... but... nah, I'm just going to say it was him. It HAD to be him, because every detail has to be a small detail from something else.

ALSO, (last one), at first I thought the Tusken guy was using the force to sense the Krayt Dragon, but then I realized he was feeling for the snoring vibrations. Thought we might get a Tusken Jedi! (but that will probably only ever happen in our RPGs)

Just now, Mandalore of the Rings said:

ALSO, (last one), at first I thought the Tusken guy was using the force to sense the Krayt Dragon, but then I realized he was feeling for the snoring vibrations. Thought we might get a Tusken Jedi! (but that will probably only ever happen in our RPGs)

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sharad_Hett

4 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Maybe a bit much fan service. R5? Is that supposed to be the same one with the bad motivator?!

The camera zoomed in on some burn marks around the same panel of he "bad motivator" from R5, so yep I believe that's the intention.

4 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

So is Boba's jetpack defective? Or is that a bad design thing that Mando knew about?

I think your later suggestion would explain it well. That exact model had a weakness known to some.

4 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Yeah, totally a Pod Racer engine. Does anyone recognize which racer it came from? I'll check one of my kid's books.

It looks like one of Anakin's pods with some red paint on one side. I suppose the speeder bike AND Anakin's podracer both found an engine from the same source (the same model of starfighter, for example) IF Anakin didn't build it completely from scrap. I don't recall if that was ever said. But, yeah, I think they probably should have used a podracer engine from one a little less known.

Just now, Sturn said:

It looks like one of Anakin's pods with some red paint on one side. I suppose the speeder bike AND Anakin's podracer both found an engine from the same source (the same model of starfighter, for example) IF Anakin didn't build it completely from scrap. I don't recall if that was ever said. But, yeah, I think they probably should have used a podracer engine from one a little less known.

I disagree. If they'd used one less known, many of the less insanely nerdy wouldn't have picked up on it.

As for Anakin's being built from scrap, it doesn't mean that certain parts weren't mostly intact. I imagine that, if asked, Cobb Vanth would say his speeder was built from scrap.

27 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Also, why wasn't he harmed by the acid?

Just rewatched this. Trying to look closely, I didn't see anyone or anything actually melt away like the spit was acid. It just showed multiple victims falling over bathed in the stuff. Also, when Mando came out of the dragon, he was coated in the stuff. Not just his armor was coated. His cloth neck piece (part of his cloak?) was coated green. If it was acid, that should have at least been easily damaged. So, I think the dragon's spit is supposed to be poison, not acid. Mando in his suit of armor is thus not affected?

Just now, Sturn said:

Just rewatched this. Trying to look closely, I didn't see anyone or anything actually melt away like the spit was acid. It just showed multiple victims falling over bathed in the stuff. Also, when Mando came out of the dragon, he was coated in the stuff. Not just his armor was coated. His cloth neck piece (part of his cloak?) was coated green. If it was acid, that should have at least been easily damaged. So, I think the dragon's spit is supposed to be poison, not acid. Mando in his suit of armor is thus not affected?

I rewatched it last night, but couldn't really tell. I thought they melted down, but it was hard to see. Your suggestion makes more sense.

13 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

As for Anakin's being built from scrap, it doesn't mean that certain parts weren't mostly intact.

That would explain it better. Anakin's two pods seemed identical. Hard to do that completely from scrap. So, Vanth and Anakin could have gotten the thrusters as scrap from a similar vehicle. But, knowing Star Wars as we do, the writers probably wanted it to actually be one of Anakin's.