To the so called Crown Prince.

Was it not too long ago you were disturbed by the war between us and the Funk plus their allies?

And now you are attacking unprovoked?

The MOFO have only attacked against those who were hostile towards them, in order to preserve their great nation.

Now you dare increase your audacity and attack the MOFO, justifying it by saying they are attacking and conquering as they please?

Hypocrites...

We will not directly fight you, as we are across the sector from each other, but know as of right now, there is no hold fire orders and no possibility of a truce, unless the MOFO call for one.

9 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

If I get involved I would like one of his home system planets however, for both defending our territory/sending an attack fleet and helping rally others to your side

I think we can do this. You'll have to discuss the specifics with @FortyInRed, though I would think being able to keep the Tron'di ships as his own and end his IC payments is reward enough.

20 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Did the Mando's not break a similar treaty with @FortyInRed a few turns ago?

Are they to be trusted either?

For the record, I was under this impression as well, but then again, I wasn't trusting the MOFO (and still don't). However, I was trusting the Tron'di, and obviously that situation has changed.

@The Jabbawookie do you wish for us to transfer our reinforcements to you or make separate attacks?

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

For the record, I was under this impression as well, but then again, I wasn't trusting the MOFO (and still don't). However, I was trusting the Tron'di, and obviously that situation has changed.

Well I consider your poeple to be our Allies, and since the conflict is most likely to affect your homworlds if any of us get involved i will defer to your judgment and ask how you would like to proceed with the situation?

1 minute ago, idjmv said:

@The Jabbawookie do you wish for us to transfer our reinforcements to you or make separate attacks?

We leave it at your discretion whether you should send forces at all; as our esteemed Syndicate chairman mentioned, you are our bulwark to the West. However, reinforcement of our systems is the most time efficient way to fight, as it enables us to advance that same turn.

Just now, The Jabbawookie said:

We leave it at your discretion whether you should send forces at all; as our esteemed Syndicate chairman mentioned, you are our bulwark to the West. However, reinforcement of our systems is the most time efficient way to fight, as it enables us to advance that same turn.

Understood. We will send a fleet, going thru dsQY,dsTC as then they can reach the fight sooner.

20 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Well I consider your poeple to be our Allies, and since the conflict is most likely to affect your homworlds if any of us get involved i will defer to your judgment and ask how you would like to proceed with the situation?

I am inclined to break my own non-aggression pact with the Tron'di, as those clearly do not mean anything to them, and attack P in the interest of preemptive self-protection.

As I am aware that you also have treaties with them, however, I will not do anything that would disrupt our relations with you.

8 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I am inclined to break my own non-aggression pact with the Tron'di, as those clearly do not mean anything to them, and attack P in the interest of preemptive self-protection.

As I am aware that you also have treaties with them, however, I will not do anything that would disrupt our relations with you.

Our only treaties were information exchange. We will mobilize our fleet to provide support if needed.

@BiggsIRL in the interests of preemptively supporting our borders against unprovoked attacks during a negotiated peace, we are formally breaking our alliance and declaring war.

1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

@BiggsIRL in the interests of preemptively supporting our borders against unprovoked attacks during a negotiated peace, we are formally breaking our alliance and declaring war.

We are pleased by your choice, and have no doubt it will benefit both of our peoples. All Mandalorian forces in Tron'di space, as well as Hurikane, will temporarily have a hold fire order in place regarding your fleets. We hope you will consider either doing the same or informing us of your impending assaults.

Those who use a boy to justify a nation will always fall to their own hubris

3 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

We are pleased by your choice, and have no doubt it will benefit both of our peoples. All Mandalorian forces in Tron'di space, as well as Hurikane, will temporarily have a hold fire order in place regarding your fleets. We hope you will consider either doing the same or informing us of your impending assaults.

We will do the same.

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

Those who use a boy to justify a nation will always fall to their own hubris

As is custom, I intend to take him as my own and raise him as a verd. Hard work, duty and well-earned skill are stronger than any royal blood, and he can be a figurehead no longer.

There are reports of a vicious "stomack floo" scourging Consortium lands. Hank the Drunk is currently regretting his existence, but has been keeping up with current events and plans to announce the Consortium's response to this aggression as soon as possible.

Suffice to say, Hank is not pleased at this situation as he has always considered the Tron'di friends.

32 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Suffice to say, Hank is not pleased at this situation as he has always considered the Tron'di friends. 

44 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

vicious "stomack floo

Your beer has been poisoned!

Who do we kill?

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

@BiggsIRL in the interests of preemptively supporting our borders against unprovoked attacks during a negotiated peace, we are formally breaking our alliance and declaring war.

This is... unfortunate. You have not unilaterally declared war against any of our allies, nor have you strong-armed a nation into producing war material for you by occupying their capital. We do not believe that you sent a fleet to dsH to intentionally scare local fleets into defensive positions. The Mandos have either done, or we believe them to have done these things. We will not maintain a non-aggression pact under those terms.

Meanwhile, the Tron'di have supported our ally, understanding when they accidentally attacked us, repaying their kindness of reparations with ships for which they can resist their occupiers and false friends. It is with heavy heart that we move to stop Mando aggression, but stop it we must. If you do not see reason then we will do what we must.

1 minute ago, BiggsIRL said:

This is... unfortunate. You have not unilaterally declared war against any of our allies, nor have you strong-armed a nation into producing war material for you by occupying their capital. We do not believe that you sent a fleet to dsH to intentionally scare local fleets into defensive positions. The Mandos have either done, or we believe them to have done these things. We will not maintain a non-aggression pact under those terms.

Meanwhile, the Tron'di have supported our ally, understanding when they accidentally attacked us, repaying their kindness of reparations with ships for which they can resist their occupiers and false friends. It is with heavy heart that we move to stop Mando aggression, but stop it we must. If you do not see reason then we will do what we must.

It is with a heavy heart that we take the action we do. But we fear for our safety. We believe that you act in the best of intentions, but we feel that breaking treaties for alleged actions or actions not affecting you may be a threat to our safety in the future.

1 minute ago, BiggsIRL said:

This is... unfortunate. You have not unilaterally declared war against any of our allies, nor have you strong-armed a nation into producing war material for you by occupying their capital. We do not believe that you sent a fleet to dsH to intentionally scare local fleets into defensive positions. The Mandos have either done, or we believe them to have done these things. We will not maintain a non-aggression pact under those terms.

Meanwhile, the Tron'di have supported our ally, understanding when they accidentally attacked us, repaying their kindness of reparations with ships for which they can resist their occupiers and false friends. It is with heavy heart that we move to stop Mando aggression, but stop it we must. If you do not see reason then we will do what we must.

You initiated this aggression, violated a treaty (something we have never done) falsely accused us of the dsH ping (perhaps this was your vanguard?) and used the pretense of an already resolved incident as a naked power grab without consulting the nation you frame as a victim, who is allied to us. We do see reason, and that will not be to your benefit.

1 hour ago, FortyInRed said:

There are reports of a vicious "stomack floo" scourging Consortium lands. Hank the Drunk is currently regretting his existence, but has been keeping up with current events and plans to announce the Consortium's response to this aggression as soon as possible.

Suffice to say, Hank is not pleased at this situation as he has always considered the Tron'di friends.

Who are your friends, @FortyInRed? The ones who attacked you? Sacked your capital? Demanded a tribute in Consortium ships? The ones who attacked Alberta / Ava F'Tarq, taking it from you?

Or the one that came to your assistance? The one who provided you ships to get you on your feet when asked. The one who waited in deep space instead of popping into your capital planet at your request? The one who's stated claims of moving to secure Alberta for you scared your true enemy into moving on it, allowing you to hit their capital and make peace?

Who are your friends?

9 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

It is with a heavy heart that we take the action we do. But we fear for our safety. We believe that you act in the best of intentions, but we feel that breaking treaties for alleged actions or actions not affecting you may be a threat to our safety in the future.

The Mandos broke the treaty by violating the sovereignty of the Consortium, and our acknowledgement of their legitimate claim to C. The result of which we have unfortunately needed this time of preparation to set to rights. With this unprovoked attack on the homeworld of another, they have shown that they are a threat to all in this sector.

I do not ask that you join us in setting things to right, I only ask that you stand aside.

2 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

The Mandos broke the treaty by violating the sovereignty of the Consortium, and our acknowledgement of their legitimate claim to C

Show us where this was part of any treaty we accepted with you. This is an outright falsehood.

Just now, BiggsIRL said:

The Mandos broke the treaty by violating the sovereignty of the Consortium, and our acknowledgement of their legitimate claim to C. The result of which we have unfortunately needed this time of preparation to set to rights. With this unprovoked attack on the homeworld of another, they have shown that they are a threat to all in this sector.

I do not ask that you join us in setting things to right, I only ask that you stand aside.

The sovereignty of the Consortium was not a part of your non-aggression pact with MOFO. Only now do you retroactively state that that was a violation. Nor did you declare it as a deal-breaker then, meaning that your attack was underhanded*. The MOFO broke no terms that they had agreed to of any treaty by their action. If acknowledging your statements is a part of a treaty, say so whilst it is being negotiated.

Thus, we deem them wronged. You might indeed be acting in good faith, but certainly not in all honesty. And we would rather be neighbors to honest enemies than dishonest allies.

*So, the best kind of attack

On 3/3/2019 at 6:08 PM, BiggsIRL said:

Tron'di has the following relations:

Official Recognition of Claimed Territory:

@FortyInRed - C, T, A

On 2/16/2019 at 12:18 AM, BiggsIRL said:

@FortyInRed

We bid your people welcome! We will be passing through what we believe is your territory - Planet "C" - on a scouting and diplomatic mission towards Ava F'Tarq. Although we are not neighbors, we'd like to take the opportunity to get to know more about your people. Know that we come bearing you no harm - our ship though armed to defend itself is alone and not a threat to your planet or your ground forces.

Please let us know if you will allow this mission to proceed. If necessary, we can divert to Planet "T" which I also believe is claimed by your people.

If this broadcast reaches someone else who claims either of these planets, our apologies! The same offer applies to you - let's take a moment to get to know one another.

Commander Randal - "Hazard"

A post from when I first encountered the Consortium, and above that a post made during the illegal Mando occupation of C'anada.