1 minute ago, GuacCousteau said:

What was the reaction to that scene supposed to be? Was I supposed to find it funny and laugh?

I don't know to be honest. Clearly the visual of the bikers launching out of the base into the valley was supposed to be cool and menacing (it was).

But if the writers thought that five was too many for the team to handle, maybe just ditch the crash and send out three instead? Make the scouts look dangerous and competent?

I wouldn't really buy the "family show" excuse here either, considering all the scouts met particularly gruesome fates...

7 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I don't know to be honest. Clearly the visual of the bikers launching out of the base into the valley was supposed to be cool and menacing (it was).

But if the writers thought that five was too many for the team to handle, maybe just ditch the crash and send out three instead? Make the scouts look dangerous and competent?

I wouldn't really buy the "family show" excuse here either, considering all the scouts met particularly gruesome fates...

If I'm at my most generous, the best explanation I can offer is that it was supposed to be like the scene in RotJ where the fighters first enter the DSII tunnel. You've got that one TIE who just clips his panel off the side of the tunnel and explodes, while all the Interceptors dodge out the way. It's meant to show that what they're all doing is extremely dangerous, and to highlight the skill that's getting Wedge, Lando et al through. But also to show that the TIEs still following them were good enough to not make that mistake too. It's also immediately followed up by one TIE nailing an X-Wing, so you've got a bit of balance restored - our guys might be good, but they're in trouble because the guys behind them are also good.

So in this case, you have the two (unknown to audience, youngest and least experienced) Scouts crash to show that diving down the cliffside was extremely dangerous, so the guys that managed it must be really good.

But if that's the case, I'd still argue it failed because there's no setup to that and no pay off. While the other Scouts are admittedly shown as being fantastically ballsy (the one getting on top of the transport), they're still largely ineffecutal for the rest of the scene.

Ah well. It's not the end of the world, I still really enjoyed the episode and the chase in particular (even if Mando's ship getting repaired in such a short span of time seemed like a bit of a stretch). I'm just happy to get more live action Scout Troopers tbh. Would love it if we could get a Scout Trooper sniper at some point, too.

What's kind of hilarious is the Empire wiped out the Mandalorian Coven. HOW?! They have shown to be pretty darn incompetent on screen. Maybe they gassed them out of something...

We do need the Imps besides Gideon to show some competence. Maybe the Dark Troopers will actually be scary.

I suppose they might be trying to imply just how bottom-of-the-barrel these troops are supposed to be. This seems like the last troops they had left holding a research base that was basically no longer in use, or was in very little use? I wasn't 100% on that note. So if it's something you're not worried about defending all that much outside of making sure the remaining techs wipe the data, then why station anyone of competence there, I guess? I'm making excuses for the show. They really shouldn't have done that with the scout troopers.

6 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

...this seems like the last troops they had left holding a research base that was basically no longer in use, or was in very little use? I wasn't 100% on that note.

Yeah, I wasn't 100% on that myself. Cara and Greet were convinced it was an abandoned outpost. When they get there, it's a secret research base housing a project apparently vitally important to Moff Gideon. But the security is appalling.

Man am I overthinking this.

It's not called "the Imperial Remnant " for nothing.

Major staffing issues.

Something which worked really well in Rebels was the way the Empire got scarier and scarier, without necessarily having become more competent. Just more numerous and more brutal. The return to Lothal in the 4th season is a great example of it.

32 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Something which worked really well in Rebels was the way the Empire got scarier and scarier, without necessarily having become more competent. Just more numerous and more brutal. The return to Lothal in the 4th season is a great example of it.

Yeah, I'm seeing similar things with The Mandalorian. The opposition keeps escalating as the seasons go on. Season one finale saw an e-web and the first TIE. Two episodes ago it was a Gozanti, now we've seen an ArghKitten.

Odds on a Star Destroyer by the season three finale? 😂

43 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Yeah, I'm seeing similar things with The Mandalorian. The opposition keeps escalating as the seasons go on. Season one finale saw an e-web and the first TIE. Two episodes ago it was a Gozanti, now we've seen an ArghKitten.

Odds on a Star Destroyer by the season three finale? 😂

It's a shame we never got the Imperial Raider...

16 minutes ago, Odanan said:

It's a shame we never got the Imperial Raider...

Season 2 finale ? 😜

1 hour ago, Silver_leader said:

Season 2 finale ? 😜

Razor Crest VS Raider?

On 11/25/2020 at 11:47 PM, Odanan said:

It's a shame we never got the Imperial Raider...

Oddly enough the planet Mando is heading to is called Corvus... coincidink??

So.. the latest episode was, again, quite good.

Some HUGE name drops, and direction was influenced in equal parts by Akira Kurasawa and Sergio Leone.

54 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

So.. the latest episode was, again, quite good.

Quite good ? I found it more than quite good ! It was very very good !

But what to expect for the rest of the season ? Many possibilities, and there are none that we know where the serie will go. The possibilities are all interesting

My only complaint is how dark the episode was. Since Disney's 4k HDR isn't the best it was kinda rough to watch.

Reminded me of watching Solo.

Holy cow!

G R O G U

*warm fuzzies*

5 hours ago, Odanan said:

Holy cow!

Could be Baby Yoda Yoda's baby?

His parentage is pure speculation at this point. ****, I don't think we even know if this species reproduces in that way.

Marred by casting but the episode was quite good. The samurai sort of fight was nice, though there were certainly times where I wanted Ahsoka to do more Ahsoka-like things (like running and jumping all over the place). Perhaps she's just calmed down a bit with age and has moved to more subtle tactics. I suppose she was already toned down a bit in Rebels as well.

Name-drops are interesting. Makes me wonder about the state of a specific character related to that one.

Still, good fun episode.

Have to agree about it being way too **** dark.

7 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

His parentage is pure speculation at this point. ****, I don't think we even know if this species reproduces in that way.

Honestly, once Ahsoka was mentioned, I was surprised they gave Grogu a name.

22 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

So.. the latest episode was, again, quite good.

Some HUGE name drops, and direction was influenced in equal parts by Akira Kurasawa and Sergio Leone.

I must admit I found this episode a bit boring. Cool with the namedrops and what can come of it. But the town felt like something Mando or Ashoka could easily have handled by them selves in any other case. The Kurosawa was heavy but not that earned. I think Filoni still has a lot of matureing to do in live action. Anyways, great to see Ashoka useing the force in not so Jedi and honorable ways.

4 hours ago, Dwing said:

I must admit I found this episode a bit boring. Cool with the namedrops and what can come of it. But the town felt like something Mando or Ashoka could easily have handled by them selves in any other case. The Kurosawa was heavy but not that earned. I think Filoni still has a lot of matureing to do in live action. Anyways, great to see Ashoka useing the force in not so Jedi and honorable ways.

Totally agree. There wasn't something or someone in the village that was super scary (like the Krayt or AT-ST) that Ashoka really needed help with. The Magistrate was a decent fighter but Ashoka could have easily just used the forced and beaten her in a few seconds. The team up was fairly unnecessary.

I guess she ended up killing the Magistrate?

On 11/28/2020 at 10:54 AM, Dwing said:

I must admit I found this episode a bit boring. Cool with the namedrops and what can come of it. But the town felt like something Mando or Ashoka could easily have handled by them selves in any other case. The Kurosawa was heavy but not that earned. I think Filoni still has a lot of matureing to do in live action. Anyways, great to see Ashoka useing the force in not so Jedi and honorable ways.

Agreed. People are losing their **** over this episode, but outside of a bunch of continuity drops this episode was just... dull.

Mando is becoming a side character in his own show.

The action felt clunky, and almost tacked on.

Why bother bringing Michael Biehn in if you're not going to do a single thing with him? Did his character even fire his blaster, or did he spend the entire episode bumbling around looking confused?

Why would you make a spear out of Beskar?

******, the music in this show is still great though. It's such an easy button to press, but I still got close to choking up when Yoda's theme crept in just because they mentioned his name.

Don't get too excited for the namedrop of who the villain's master was. It's almost certainly a tie forward to the rumoured Rebels sequel series, and nothing to do with Gideon and the Mando plotline. Despite what a dozen youtube channels will be claiming on the basis of absolutely nothing.

The droid model reference is classic Disney era name dropping, and I'm not a fan. They're successfully able to make fans go giddy over just using a name, but the references are never anything of substance. What's the point of referencing other media if you're not going to do anything with the reference? Tying something to that model of droid should indicate capability, plot importance and suggest that the droid is a highly capable assassin. Relegating them to completely ineffectual bodyguards that look totally different just dilutes things and completely devalues the reference.

The namedrop of the next planet is the only EU reference that piqued my interest. And that's mostly because we know we're actually going there. It's a big planet to throw in out of nowhere, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it visually. Will it be the lush rainbows and waterfall idyll teeming with life we know it as, or will it have been destroyed by some cataclysm (as it was by this era in Legends)? This being an OT era appearance, they've got total liberty to do whatever they want with it. That's exciting.

Ahsoka's lekku were way too short and it bugged me for the whole episode. Really minor nitpick, but whatever. It's not even that she looks wrong compared with Shaak Ti, as an adult Togruta. She looks wrong next to her own earlier portrayal in Rebels.

Other than that, Ahoska was pretty cool. Props to Rosario Dawson. She took the role seriously and clearly did her homework, I had no trouble seeing her as Ahsoka.

I know that Ahsoka is Dave Filoni's baby and he deserves to be as involved as possible.... but boy I wish we could see Ahsoka directed by someone with a little more live action experience. Something about the dialogue scenes and general physicality levels of the actors in this episode just really didn't do it for me. The villains especially were weak as ****. All round actually, weak writing, weak direction, weak acting. The opening of the big showdown was weak too. Morgan Elsbeth started out holding that spear like she'd never even seen one before. I was genuinely surprised when she held her own against Ahsoka.

For being a character so closely connected to active members of the Alliance, it seemed weird to me that Ahsoka seems to not know about Luke. Has she not spoken to Hera once since Endor?

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Why bother bringing Michael Biehn in if you're not going to do a single thing with him? Did his character even fire his blaster, or did he spend the entire episode bumbling around looking confused?

Huge waste.

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Why would you make a spear out of Beskar?

Because it can stop a friggin' lightsaber? Also, it might not be entirely made out of Beskar.

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The villains especially were weak as ****. All round actually, weak writing, weak direction, weak acting. The opening of the big showdown was weak too. Morgan Elsbeth started out holding that spear like she'd never even seen one before. I was genuinely surprised when she held her own against Ahsoka.

Pretty much... They still haven't gotten close to hitting the high note they did in the first episode this season.

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For being a character so closely connected to active members of the Alliance, it seemed weird to me that Ahsoka seems to not know about Luke. Has she not spoken to Hera once since Endor?

Has she been connected to members? I assume she has been off hunting for Ezra all this time, hence why she is tracking down Thrawn who may know where the heck he is. However, she has got to know that the Empire/Emperor has fallen and you would think she got a rumor or two about Luke. These are the plot holes in these new Disney stories that start to add up and make things not make any sense. Is no one asking these questions to the writing teams? They seriously need to considered hiring a panel of nerds that try to shoot to pieces every story they come up with.

9 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Why would you make a spear out of Beskar?

I mean we saw why.

Anyway, on Luke, look. Ahsoka likely knows. But she's not a Jedi. Their paths don't coincide.

On 11/29/2020 at 6:34 AM, GuacCousteau said:

Why would you make a spear out of Beskar?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Beskad/Legends

They made swords out of it in Legends. Same question. The answer? Because it's rad as ****. In-lore? That spear blocked a lightsaber. That's reason enough.

I Wonder why and how long the last Jedi will remain hidden? Have most of them found Luke by now and are heling him, maybe Ashoka is deliberately saying far away from them. Also how bad was Vader as a Jedi hunter, can't be that many left right?