THE MANDALORIAN

By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, in X-Wing Off-Topic

  • ❤️ ❤️ Ming-Na Wen ❤️ ❤️

    • Plus, really classic RotJ-style generic Bounty Hunter outfit with a sweet helmet, and I love it.

  • More like Boba THICC
    • I still think Boba is cooler as a loser, but Beskar-Zaddy swinging his Gaffi stick? *whistles*
  • I can still be a grump. Dark Troopers are just Clankers with Imperial Branding .
  • Reaching back an episode, thoughts clarified from a conversation with my brother...
    • Ahsoka not training Grogu because of his attachment, while it makes sense given her experiences with Anakin, still doesn't feel right.
    • Having Anakin's *attachment* be the cause of his turn to the dark side... just wrong. Kind of all George Lucas' stuff where it's kinda loving too much which leads to the Dark Side has always been nonsense.
    • I mean, how does Luke win in RotJ? Because he finds love for Anakin , and is able to choose peace over violence. Which is what he does with Ben Solo at the training temple. Tempted by the Dark Side, presented with the choice of easy violence to rid the galaxy of evil, he rejects it. And it's a continual process, not a one-time thing.
    • The way that George Lucas went in the Prequels--where loving too hard turns you evil--is a poison to the franchise, and drives a lot of writing into some seriously messed up places.
  • Another thing: W/R/T @Magnus Grendel and the Hall of Worlds, I have my pet theory on the place.
    • Time Travel probably doesn't actually exist.
    • We know that people can have visions of the future and the past through the force.
    • When Ezra "pulls" Ahsoka out of the way and into the Hall, it's mostly he's having a force-vision of her, she's having a vision of him.
    • She never moved within time, just pulled (by her own connection to the force? by the force itself?) around a bit within the physical space in the Temple on Malachor.
    • That's still something really cool, IMHO. Having linked visions at different points in time with consequences on both ends of the vision is some really impressive wizard stuff.
    • But I also love that it's ambiguous, and maybe there really is time travel.
      • Man, it's all space magic, who the f*** knows.

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18 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I posted this on Reddit

So, I’m fairly confidant that Din Djarin is Disney’s Kyle Katarn.

The reason is Tython looked too much like the Valley of the Jedi from Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast.

I reference the concept of Chekov’s gun - Chekov was a playwright who said, to paraphrase, if a gun shows up on stage (in the background), expect that gun to be used at some point. With all the dialogue of Din saying he can’t train him, and Grogu saying he’s like a father.. well, I think when Din was trying to Grab Grogu, he was imbued with the force. The third time he was sent flying was clearly different. Grogu needs a teacher but doesn’t want to leave Din. The visual cues. Heck, even the Razer Crest being destroyed harkens back to Kyle’s Mouldy Crow.

Tie in the Darksaber - created by a Mandalorian Jedi. There is so much being done that, to me, implies this.

Now With two episodes left, I don’t expect full force powers, but as a running plot point for season 3.. I think so.

Wow! I don't know what I think about this. While it would be cool to see Din owning the Dark Saber and leading the Mandos, is this really necessary? I like the fact he has no powers and sometimes is not even the deadliest person in the scene.

49 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I posted this on Reddit

So, I’m fairly confidant that Din Djarin is Disney’s Kyle Katarn.

The reason is Tython looked too much like the Valley of the Jedi from Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast.

I reference the concept of Chekov’s gun - Chekov was a playwright who said, to paraphrase, if a gun shows up on stage (in the background), expect that gun to be used at some point. With all the dialogue of Din saying he can’t train him, and Grogu saying he’s like a father.. well, I think when Din was trying to Grab Grogu, he was imbued with the force. The third time he was sent flying was clearly different. Grogu needs a teacher but doesn’t want to leave Din. The visual cues. Heck, even the Razer Crest being destroyed harkens back to Kyle’s Mouldy Crow.

Tie in the Darksaber - created by a Mandalorian Jedi. There is so much being done that, to me, implies this.

Now With two episodes left, I don’t expect full force powers, but as a running plot point for season 3.. I think so.

Maybe you're trying to tie it too close to old stuff because old elements exist, but that's just my opinion. I want to see this as its own thing utterly divorced from older material. If The Mandalorian gets force powers I'll ****, honestly. I don't want that but if it happens it happens. I just don't think that's the way, you know?

I guess Boba survived the sarlacc by eating his way out, huh. Mah boy looking real thicc in that armour.

Ep 14, holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I have goose bumbs. ❤️

3 hours ago, Odanan said:

Wow! I don't know what I think about this. While it would be cool to see Din owning the Dark Saber and leading the Mandos, is this really necessary? I like the fact he has no powers and sometimes is not even the deadliest person in the scene.

Who said he would lead the Mandalorians? Did Tarre Vizla have those aspirations? While it seems so, we don't know for sure. The Dark Saber being a symbol of rightful leadership, seems to be something that has been added to the mystique of the weapon, over time, by Mandalorians hoping to be seen as the true leader. I mean we only hear this history from Mandalorians - a certain point of view indeed.

Din may just want to keep Grogu safe and train him. It is Bo-Katan that wants the Dark Saber to be seen as the rightful ruler.

2 hours ago, KCDodger said:

Maybe you're trying to tie it too close to old stuff because old elements exist, but that's just my opinion. I want to see this as its own thing utterly divorced from older material. If The Mandalorian gets force powers I'll ****, honestly. I don't want that but if it happens it happens. I just don't think that's the way, you know?

While I could be, there seems to be too much happening. So many things shown, or referenced, that have all lead to showing up again.

But it already isn't divorced from older materiel. We have Boba, Darktroopers, Ahsoka, Thrawn, and so much more.

Tython was supposedly the Birthplace of the Jedi.. why couldn't the first jedi have been artificially infused with the force?

Gaffi Stick Boba is best Boba.

But oh man, that Slave 1 first sighting was beyond compare.

8 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Who said he would lead the Mandalorians? Did Tarre Vizla have those aspirations? While it seems so, we don't know for sure. The Dark Saber being a symbol of rightful leadership, seems to be something that has been added to the mystique of the weapon, over time, by Mandalorians hoping to be seen as the true leader. I mean we only hear this history from Mandalorians - a certain point of view indeed.

Din may just want to keep Grogu safe and train him. It is Bo-Katan that wants the Dark Saber to be seen as the rightful ruler.

While I could be, there seems to be too much happening. So many things shown, or referenced, that have all lead to showing up again.

But it already isn't divorced from older materiel. We have Boba, Darktroopers, Ahsoka, Thrawn, and so much more.

Tython was supposedly the Birthplace of the Jedi.. why couldn't the first jedi have been artificially infused with the force?

Because that's decidedly not how The Force works.

21 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Gaffi Stick Boba is best Boba.

But oh man, that Slave 1 first sighting was beyond compare.

Boba at range 1 is the most dangerous... But he reaaaally needs his crew slot back now.

Empire ships +1

Is that transport new? Or has it been in something else?

it is reminiscent of the First Order transports.

11 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

it is reminiscent of the First Order transports.

It's a bit like a smaller TIE Reaper without wings.

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

Because that's decidedly not how The Force works.

Says who? The force could never time travel, yet we have the world within worlds and that happened to Ahsoka.

In Legends the force was imbued to shadow troopers - in Jedi Outcast.

The force can heal wounds, it can apparently go away if not used, Just as Grogu’s had waned. Who can say that someone can't spontaneously develop the force? Or have it thrust on them.

I'm not saying I'm right, only I see a pattern of things planted that come to fruition. Nothing in this season has been done without reason.

I think ultimately the story will have Grogu reject the force

1 hour ago, Dwing said:

Boba at range 1 is the most dangerous... But he reaaaally needs his crew slot back now.

Easy solution: print Boba Fett [Scarred by the Sarlacc] and give him a crew slot. Since he's obviously changed his ways by now. And then we can rotate OG Boba out of Hyperspace.

5 minutes ago, All Shields Forward said:

I think ultimately the story will have Grogu reject the force

Agreed. That seems to be what it's suggesting, and feels the most enjoyable. Or, like, if not a full rejection, definitely a rejection of the Jedi way.

15 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

...Who can say that someone can't spontaneously develop the force? Or have it thrust on them .

...well, the Imperials are after Grogu because they're experimenting with his "high M-count" blood... and apparently trying to infuse clones with it. So this is literally where the story seems to be heading.

8 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

...well, the Imperials are after Grogu because they're experimenting with his "high M-count" blood... and apparently trying to infuse clones with it. So this is literally where the story seems to be heading.

I really hope the whole Clone force thing is a goose chase by Favreau. I think Gideon is experimenting with the force on old Clone Wars clones, not to make force troopers. But to find a way he himself or some one higher up can get force power. Replaceing Vader and the Emperor.

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1 hour ago, Rossetti1828 said:

It's a bit like a smaller TIE Reaper without wings.

Kinda wish they'd just used TIE Reapers tbh.

They have the digital models from Rogue One, and they've already had that connection to Gideon with his Death Trooper contingent. I guess it was a deliberate attempt to show a connection between Gideon and the First Order, but still.

TIE Reapers are cool.

Though that does remind me that, once again, the weakest bit of this episode was making the Stormtroopers out to be completely incompetent. They're trying to make Fennec, Boba and Mando out to be complete badasses in those action scenes and it's just not working for me because the Stormtroopers are so dumb and there's zero tension. There was a shot where Fennec is shooting a couple of troopers, then one comes up behind her. She spins round and shoots him, but it was just painfully slow. The guy was behind her in full view for several moments and makes no attempt at making even a single shot. Then there's the squad leader ordering the one troop to flank, he questions the order then tries it and immediately gets shot. I'm not sure whether the intention was to make the commander or the trooper look dumb, but for me it made them both look dumb.

Then there's Gideon letting two of his troops be tossed around like ragdolls...... None of it works for me.

People can finally shut up about Boba being a jobber though, so this episode still gets a gold star from me.

Oh, also there's this

On 11/29/2020 at 12:34 PM, GuacCousteau said:

The namedrop of the next planet is the only EU reference that piqued my interest. And that's mostly because we know we're actually going there. It's a big planet to throw in out of nowhere, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it visually. Will it be the lush rainbows and waterfall idyll teeming with life we know it as, or will it have been destroyed by some cataclysm (as it was by this era in Legends)? This being an OT era appearance, they've got total liberty to do whatever they want with it. That's exciting.

Amazing really.

I was completely open minded about what they could do....

... And still came away seriously disappointed.

I know that this Star Wars on a TV budget but still.... that was really the best you could do for the world the Jedi originated on? I was hoping for either super lush paradise or desolated ruin and got neither. A patch of desert scrubland? Really? Tiny little ruins Mando found immediately?

I get the western in space vibes, but the lack of imagination in settings is starting to wear a little thin. You couldn't CG in some alien looking vegetation? No ancient collapsed ruins like the Jedha statues in Rogue One? Nothing made this world special.

45 minutes ago, Kreen said:

Agreed. That seems to be what it's suggesting, and feels the most enjoyable. Or, like, if not a full rejection, definitely a rejection of the Jedi way.

And if you think about it Mando's reasoning that because Grogu is a jedi he should be trained and live with Jedi, even if it isnt what would be best for both him and Grogu, is comparable to what The Children of the Watch did to him. I think The Mandalorian is about what it means to be Mandalorian and him realizing that thinking is wrong will be a character growth moment for him. He needs to comes to terms with what was done to him by the cult.

Din Djarin crew inside Boba Fett's Slave I! Who would have thought about this? It's like X-Wing Miniatures Game! (and yes, we will need Boba's crew back)

2 hours ago, Sithborg said:

it is reminiscent of the First Order transports.

Maybe the Imperial transport in this episode is the predecessor to the First Order version.

Oh man, I am in total fan ecstasy right now.

Boba's is a beautiful ship.

4 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

why couldn't the first jedi have been artificially infused with the force?

They've tried it...

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Sometimes... there's side effects...

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It usually doesn't end well...

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Nope, not well at all...

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Trust me... Injecting folks with Midichlorians is just a bad plan.