On 11/16/2020 at 11:45 AM, Odanan said:

'Details about Biehn’s role are being kept under wraps. Making Star Wars, which first reported the news, said that Biehn will portray “a bounty bunter from The Mando’s past.”'

OMG, is he a known character? Is he freaking Dengar?!

29 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Judging by what the recording said about the test cases in those tubes, the 'M count', the Child and his blood, it sounds more like the Shadow Troopers from Jedi Outcast - artificially infusing troops with the power of the Force.

But yeah, either way this would be a great time for Kyle Katarn to show up.

This was a great episode. I can't really say much more than that.

Only thing that bugged me slightly was that this is the second episode in a row where they've had to just dump Baby Yoda on someone so he doesn't get in the way of the plot. I guess they made up for that with macaroon barrel roll vomit.

With these 2 things, does Biehn will be cast as Kyle Katarn ?!?!?!??!

55 minutes ago, Silver_leader said:

With these 2 things, does Biehn will be cast as Kyle Katarn ?!?!?!??!

Seconded...

1 hour ago, GuacCousteau said:

Judging by what the recording said about the test cases in those tubes, the 'M count', the Child and his blood, it sounds more like the Shadow Troopers from Jedi Outcast - artificially infusing troops with the power of the Force.

But yeah, either way this would be a great time for Kyle Katarn to show up.

This was a great episode. I can't really say much more than that.

Only thing that bugged me slightly was that this is the second episode in a row where they've had to just dump Baby Yoda on someone so he doesn't get in the way of the plot. I guess they made up for that with macaroon barrel roll vomit.

1 hour ago, Silver_leader said:

With these 2 things, does Biehn will be cast as Kyle Katarn ?!?!?!??!

I’d love to see the Mouldy Crow in screen. I don't expect this though.

I'm wondering if Gideon’s Cylons are actually Purge Troopers from the Anoat sector, as seen by the short lived mobile game Star Wars Uprising.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Purge_Trooper_(Anoat_sector)

1 hour ago, Sithborg said:

Seconded...

The Dark Troopers and the clone stuff could be separate projects. The Imperial scientists we've seen at each have different insignias. The Yoda stuff seems to heavily be implying it is the project that leads to Snoke. We will see how things go, but Gideon is clearly far more connected to the formation of the First Order than we originally thought

SPOILERS

Really Spoilers

I’ve been quiet about leaks, I have tried ... but I can’t help this one.

Spoilers

The Mandalorian Chapter 13 Title: “The Jedi”

And the Episode could be 57 min long.

On 11/16/2020 at 9:10 AM, Silver_leader said:

- Ezra ? Michael Biehn has been cast officially, but still not there....... I hope, but also I do not expect it.

I think he'd be too old to play Ezra. At around 10 years past Rebels, Ezra would still probably be under 30.

On 11/16/2020 at 11:45 AM, Odanan said:

'Details about Biehn’s role are being kept under wraps. Making Star Wars, which first reported the news, said that Biehn will portray “a bounty bunter from The Mando’s past.”'

OMG, is he a known character? Is he freaking Dengar?!

Dengar... kept under wraps ?

I regret nothing.

On 11/14/2020 at 6:05 AM, GuacCousteau said:

Worse, as an Imperial gozanti it would have been real easy for them to have a pair of TIE Fighters docked as escorts.

It's cool, though. It's the remnant. Lack of resources is a perfectly self explanatory justification.

I'm also not sure they'd have been allowed. The Outer Rim is kind of a legal grey area, but the Gozanti (at least until they had a strong reason not to) seemed to be following all the flight path restrictions put on them by the local government on Trask. If the port authority has that kind of sway over an Imperial Remnant, I wouldn't be shocked to see them have a "no escort fighters" rule.

//

Anyhow, stray thoughts on the episodes.

This last episode, I think, hits a lot of points if you are a parent l. The cable instruction, as well as the spit up.

You may find these funny, but unless you have kids (or take care of them often) you don't get the full picture.

Pluse Carson “space Appa” Teva shows up again? Love it.

I also need a gif of Greef and companies faces as they go off the ledge. I laughed out loud with that.

11 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

This last episode, I think, hits a lot of points if you are a parent l. The cable instruction, as well as the spit up.

You may find these funny, but unless you have kids (or take care of them often) you don't get the full picture.

Pluse Carson “space Appa” Teva shows up again? Love it.

I also need a gif of Greef and companies faces as they go off the ledge. I laughed out loud with that.

Yes, baby Yoda need a real parent soon, spending way to much time with cool reckless uncle 😅

11 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

• • Maybe I just have a bad taste in my mouth, since the tanks suggest Force-cloning, which suggests how RoS treated Snoke, and I just really hate RoS.

Unfortunately they kind of already hitched their wagon to RoS. Why else would the Empire need Ze Child? Having seen how RoS went, I bet they would like a re-do and not tie so directly into the ST.

I wouldn't mind seeing Baby Yoda get more permanently sidelined, but I don't see them doing that this season, or maybe at the end. The child is almost more the face of this show than our protagonist. Its the only reason my wife actually entertains watching the show, she could give a poodoo about Star Wars.

One more week until you know who shows up! 😃

After the throwaway "creature-of-the-week" nature of the first two episodes, I've enjoyed the way the last two episodes started to progress the story more.

I probably preferred last week's episode, as I'm a total sucker for the original trilogy alien designs, and seeing the MonCal and Quarren heavily featured was great.

I almost jumped out of my seat when Greed brought up the schematics; they looked for all the world like a Golan platform. Aside from the revelations, the attack on the base was a little underwhelming to me. The environment s looked far too similar to the interior of the Gozanti from the previous episode (which as I posted earlier seemed a bit too big for the ship).

That's just nitpicking really though. My biggest gripe is the episodes are too short and we're already half way through the season 😭

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

Unfortunately they kind of already hitched their wagon to RoS.

Sure, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

I wouldn't mind seeing Baby Yoda get more permanently sidelined, but I don't see them doing that this season, or maybe at the end. The child is almost more the face of this show than our protagonist. Its the only reason my wife actually entertains watching the show, she could give a poodoo about Star Wars.

If they get rid of the Child, I'm probably out. I'm glad the show is about more than just a kick-butt bounty hunter kicking butt. That'd be wicked dull to me. To each their own--folks don't have to like the same things.

12 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

This last episode, I think, hits a lot of points if you are a parent l. The cable instruction, as well as the spit up.
You may find these funny, but unless you have kids (or take care of them often) you don't get the full picture.

Oh, the parent-parts were the best.

I'd just rather have it on a strange world of Mon Cal and Quarren than shooting Stormtroopers. I've seen so much of that, and I'd rather have a backdrop of quiet world-building than Old-EU-Greatest-Hits Imperials.

Giancarlo Esposito has everything (glamour, hubris, and casual cruelty) I could ever want in a Moff, though.

19 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Oh my god, Michael Biehn as Kyle Katarn.......

Just imagine if we also get the Crow and Jan Ors

Don't give me hope!

5 hours ago, Odanan said:

Don't give me hope!

Biehn as Kyle Katarn would be really nice, especially if they link the dark troopers from Dark Forces.

The Modly Crow would be STUNNING, but i dont expect it. Neither Jan Ors

Chapter 13 - the jedi - 1 hour ?!? 😀 😀

6 long days to wait....

14 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

Unfortunately they kind of already hitched their wagon to RoS. Why else would the Empire need Ze Child? Having seen how RoS went, I bet they would like a re-do and not tie so directly into the ST.

I wouldn't mind seeing Baby Yoda get more permanently sidelined, but I don't see them doing that this season, or maybe at the end. The child is almost more the face of this show than our protagonist. Its the only reason my wife actually entertains watching the show, she could give a poodoo about Star Wars.

Though it hints at a Snoke/Clone Palpatine connection I don’t think it will be so direct. I think it’s a bit of a misdirection and that the actual implications of the research is more to do with Moff Gideon seeking a way to wield the force for himself rather than an effort to resurrect his Emperor. This also ties in well to the fact that he has the Darksaber. He want’s to be the new Darth Vader. Just my 2 cents.

Wooo boy I enjoyed the last episode. Carl Weathers did a marvellous job directing it, we got to see lots of toys being used (Code Cylinders! Speeder Bikes! Protocol Droid Education System!), hints of a greater plot (and potential ties into the First Order) and there were plenty of nice details littered throughout. Seeing an Arquitens in live action was a joy, as it is always nice to see the smaller vessels of the Empire get airtime, and from an X-wing player perspective we're likely to eventually get the Outland TIE (or whatever it is officially called) as we've now seen it used by both a 'named' character and generic mooks. The card art is practically drawn already from the episode concept art they flung over the credits...

3 hours ago, AceDogbert said:

Wooo boy I enjoyed the last episode. Carl Weathers did a marvellous job directing it, we got to see lots of toys being used (Code Cylinders! Speeder Bikes! Protocol Droid Education System!), hints of a greater plot (and potential ties into the First Order) and there were plenty of nice details littered throughout. Seeing an Arquitens in live action was a joy, as it is always nice to see the smaller vessels of the Empire get airtime, and from an X-wing player perspective we're likely to eventually get the Outland TIE (or whatever it is officially called) as we've now seen it used by both a 'named' character and generic mooks. The card art is practically drawn already from the episode concept art they flung over the credits...

Only thing I disliked in the episode was the m Word and the potential tie to the sequels. I really hope the show only keep referring to the Republic and possible First Order Tie in, as a fan I really reeeeaaally dislike midiclorians and the new trilogy. I know they can't erase it, but just keep it in the background, real low, so we don't have to deal with that nonsense any more then we have to.

Regarding the outland tie, I hope we get some new pilots, but I don't see anything that makes it different to an ordinary tie. We don't even know if this is just ordinary ties in the Disneyverse do we?

And yes its was great to see all the imp stuff

Talking with my brother, he had a thought about The Child and language. When he's trying to fix up part of the ship, it's clear the kid understands something of "red" "blue" "wire" "touch" but can't quite put it together. The Child's overall understanding is pretty good. He lifts up the Mudhorn early on, can work his little hovering clamshell. He gets stuff. But not language.

Who else in the Star Wars universe do we know that understands a heck of a lot, but has some language issues? Yoda. Could be that this species just isn't all that great with linguistic communication.

Food for thought.

Also, you know... toddlers.

I think people need to get over the sequels - I get you don't like them - some of us DO, if only because our young children grew up watching them in wide eyed wonder and joy.

They happened. They aren't going away. Honestly, I'm happy for anything that ties things together. I don't expect Gideons project to be so direct a link to Snoke. Probably more so, that when Gideon is defeated, someone takes the data to the First Order.

And just like the prequels gave us the Clone Wars (and memes) maybe we’ll get something new.

But what we really need are more of the x-wing space dad cops flying around. I'm all for Carson “Space Appa” Teva. Just some shorts of them, even.

One thing I forgot to say about this last episode. Even while the ship is still kind of rough in repairs, it was way more maneuverable in combat than I expected. Is Djinn just an exceedingly strong pilot, or is the ship itself a bit more maneuverable at a baseline than suggested by its frame and engines?

16 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

One thing I forgot to say about this last episode. Even while the ship is still kind of rough in repairs, it was way more maneuverable in combat than I expected. Is Djinn just an exceedingly strong pilot, or is the ship itself a bit more maneuverable at a baseline than suggested by its frame and engines?

No one currently writing for Star Wars will care about this, but to me that dogfight came across as a classic case of TIE Fighters sucking in atmosphere.

Mando is able to do what he does in the Crest party because of gravity and air resistance. And while still essentially a brick, the engine size and placement on the Crest gives it more maneuvering options in atmo than the TIE, which is essentially a big metal kite. His vertical k-turn type maneuver was a result of stalling out and using the angular thrust possible by firing only one engine when they're spaced away from the centre of mass.

Those TIE pilots were also presumably bottom of the barrel Academy drones full of Imperial conditioning and possessed of zero creativity.

I don't think the Crest itself does anything unreasonable for a ship that seems to have a very big power plant and large thrusters for its size.

41 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Those TIE pilots were also presumably bottom of the barrel Academy drones full of Imperial conditioning and possessed of zero creativity.

No kidding. A lone TIE trying to joust a bigger, heavier and presumably more dangerous ship? Rookie mistake, git gud n00b.

Speaking of n00bs, what was with the Scout troopers crashing their speeder bikes into each other right after leaving the base?? I mean there's incompetence, then there's Imperial incompetence ...

Just now, FTS Gecko said:

No kidding. A lone TIE trying to joust a bigger, heavier and presumably more dangerous ship? Rookie mistake, git gud n00b.

Speaking of n00bs, what was with the Scout troopers crashing their speeder bikes into each other right after leaving the base?? I mean there's incompetence, then there's Imperial incompetence ...

This is probably the thing about the Mandalorian that bugs me the most, and it's something that bugs me about all the Disney films too.

They're too self aware, and too happy to slip in real world nods to fan conceptions. Stormtoopers suck because they're mooks in a campy adventure story. Everyone knows that, so lets double down on it only now we're also going to nod to the camera while we do it. And we'll offer silly in universe comments and explanations too.

Like, way to suck all the tension out of an action scene when you've got characters completely dismissing any opposition because they can't shoot straight.

That crash immediately took me out of the scene. It really bugged me. They sped out the base, jumped down onto the side of the valley and my brain had just gone "oh awesome, they're finally showing Biker Scouts as the bad*** recon specialists they're supposed to b- Ohhhhhhh. Oh. Oh they crashed. Because Imperials aren't allowed to look good at their jobs for even a second in Disney-verse"

Like, just when I'm getting ready to really enjoy a scene, they suck any drama out of it by showing the bad guys are doomed to fail miserable before they've even got close to catching up.

What was the reaction to that scene supposed to be? Was I supposed to find it funny and laugh?

I have no problem with the good guys always getting away from the Stormtroopers, but every now and then you've got to include a scene like the opening of ANH, or the Battle of Hoth, or the Death Troopers dropping into the Battle of Scarif in Rogue One to show that the good guys are getting away because they're awesome at what they do, not because the bad guys are clowns in cosplay armour.