Jedi Star OOC thread

By Tramp Graphics, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny Beginner Game

2 hours ago, EliasWindrider said:

@Stormbourne 's character hasn't had anyone else "who can use the awesome" who he could have asked to train him. And he the player doesn't know what he's getting himself in for and he made that request before the fiasco with @CathyKitten (where she shot Korath seriously hard before it was retconned away and for which you not her deserves the blame). He's probably thinking that " surely Tramp Graphics must be able to be reasoned with and knows enough not to push after being repeatedly warned not to... Tramp Graphics must have just been having an off day."

When that falls apart and it almost certainly will when you constantly berate him in character for no good reason other than "that's good roleplaying" (according to you) for a "tough as nails drill sergeant of a jedi master" I'll be here to help pick up the pieces/salvage the campaign.

@Stormbourne I mean no offense to you, you have made perfectly reasonable decisions given the information available to you. WHEN you want out from under Korath my character will switch masters with you. Or Elias (the character) can take over your training when he meets up (could be a personalities click better and your character reminds Elias of his son).

@Tramp Graphics has pointed out to me in pm that this post came across as overly inflammatory and prejudicial. For that I apologize. But my offer to @Stormbourne stands. For the time being, until such time if/when someone can't stand having Korath Lorren as their apprentice characters master I will sit out, consider me a sub in case there is an injury that would prevent the game from continuing

21 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:

@Tramp Graphics has pointed out to me in pm that this post came across as overly inflammatory and prejudicial. For that I apologize. But my offer to @Stormbourne stands. For the time being, until such time if/when someone can't stand having Korath Lorren as their apprentice characters master I will sit out, consider me a sub in case there is an injury that would prevent the game from continuing

I don’t mind you joining the game. We could use a ninth player to even things out, particularly when it comes time for split party sessions, since I would like to split the party up into three groups in those instances, each under a different GM, and this would make sure that one GM’s starting character wouldn’t be in the same party being run by a GM whose starting character is under first GM’s watch.

So, all I am saying is don’t make a starting character whose sole purpose is to be a fool for one character. Let the needs of the party, character compatibility, and intercharacter dynamics determine who trains your starting character as the game progresses.

@Rabobankrider Tino will start on corellia, while Akua will start on a First Order run planet, where she was snooping around until she received a call by Korrath? And theb she heads to get picked up by him? I do not mind outting Akua on the list of force users the FO knows abt, bcse she was a kind of big player during the Enpire era, so they are bound to know about her.

15 minutes ago, player3333902 said:

@Rabobankrider Tino will start on corellia, while Akua will start on a First Order run planet, where she was snooping around until she received a call by Korrath? And theb she heads to get picked up by him? I do not mind outting Akua on the list of force users the FO knows abt, bcse she was a kind of big player during the Enpire era, so they are bound to know about her.

There’s only one r in Korath. ?

Korath isn’t likely to be calling Force users via the holonet or long range comlink. He’s seeking them out in person. He doesn’t have their “contact information”. All he has is a dossier on each of the Master level Force users identifying who they are, what they look like, and where they might be located. Think “Wanted” poster.

@TheShard , I'll sort out some vision stuff for you in my next ic. Also if you want I can introduce a couple of npc's or something who may come looking for him to check he's alright etc.

@player3333902 , that sounds fine to me. I do have an idea regarding contacts that might lead you into the crew if you want. I'm thinking something along the lines of either something suspicious occurring on Zygeria that your character may find interesting, or perhaps a mission that would take you to the Corellia system. It's your choice though, those are jsut a couple of suggestions. :)

@Tramp Graphics , pretty sure I'd already said it wasn't likely that the list you picked up would have every master on it, and it certainly wouldn't have all their specific details. Like I told you, you're going to have to rely on the rest of the crew and a little bit of the force (or luck depending on your view) to gather the group.

In the mean time there is a set up for ic on Manaan ( @Tramp Graphics , @CathyKitten , @Stormbourne and soon to be @Jonas Shaaf ) And also on Dantooine ( @Stormbourne , @CathyKitten , @EliasWindrider and me! Yay!). Feel free to post when you have a chance and from these points we'll lead into the next sets of planets that should bring the group together in full.

35 minutes ago, Rabobankrider said:

@TheShard , I'll sort out some vision stuff for you in my next ic. Also if you want I can introduce a couple of npc's or something who may come looking for him to check he's alright etc.

@player3333902 , that sounds fine to me. I do have an idea regarding contacts that might lead you into the crew if you want. I'm thinking something along the lines of either something suspicious occurring on Zygeria that your character may find interesting, or perhaps a mission that would take you to the Corellia system. It's your choice though, those are jsut a couple of suggestions. :)

@Tramp Graphics , pretty sure I'd already said it wasn't likely that the list you picked up would have every master on it, and it certainly wouldn't have all their specific details. Like I told you, you're going to have to rely on the rest of the crew and a little bit of the force (or luck depending on your view) to gather the group.

In the mean time there is a set up for ic on Manaan ( @Tramp Graphics , @CathyKitten , @Stormbourne and soon to be @Jonas Shaaf ) And also on Dantooine ( @Stormbourne , @CathyKitten , @EliasWindrider and me! Yay!). Feel free to post when you have a chance and from these points we'll lead into the next sets of planets that should bring the group together in full.

True. It doesn’t have every detail on it. That’s what I was telling our new player. The dossiers only have what you might find on a wanted poster, hence why I wouldn’t be able to simply call that character to meet us. So we’re in agreement there. ?

@Rabobankrider , i do not mind your ideas! Why not you share them with me and I can decide what next to do?

I just had an idea, maybe start akua on dantooine by her trying to recover a document of the rebellion's before the FO gets it, which leads to her run in with some of the characters?

For Tino, I was thinking maybe he could start on tatooine instead, paying in a job for a crime lord, before things get a bit sour and he is forced to head away, resulting in him meeting with korrath

I just realised making Akua be alive during the clone wars makes her very very old XD, so im changing her backstory to her being the apprentice of ahsoka, picked up during the time ahsoka was away from the jedi order. Unless there is a way for her to be alive since then but not be too old...?

Would you guys be ok if i said that akua's use of the force expands her lifespan, so she looks 20+-30+ when she's actually about 100+? If we're going about tfa.

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11 hours ago, player3333902 said:

I just realised making Akua be alive during the clone wars makes her very very old XD, so im changing her backstory to her being the apprentice of ahsoka, picked up during the time ahsoka was away from the jedi order. Unless there is a way for her to be alive since then but not be too old...?

Would you guys be ok if i said that akua's use of the force expands her lifespan, so she looks 20+-30+ when she's actually about 100+? If we're going about tfa.

I'd say go for the younger character born post Clone Wars, IMO. Even in Legends , while the Force might extend the lifespan of a Jedi, it didn't slow down the aging process itself. IF she were born 36 BBY, as you originally have on her sheet, she would be 70 by TFA/TLJ; that's old, but not elderly. My mom is in her mid seventies and still going strong and active.

Hmmm. The only one I can think of for not looking old is the sith Zash in the swtor game. She's pretty old and did use the force to make herself young, but im not sure if thats a sith technique or just a nuetral one XD

Just checked and she would be 70... the thing is, i was confused for awhile given that han, luke and leia looked so old... if they are 70 in tfa, then it would be around 40+ aby? So yea... but that was my bad XD

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1 minute ago, player3333902 said:

Hmmm. The only one I can think of for not looking old is the sith Zash in the swtor game. She's pretty old and did use the force to make herself young, but im not sure if thats a sith technique or just a nuetral one XD

actually sith practices put a strain on the body causing it to age faster as in the case of the scrot of a man palpatine

Ah yeah my bad. She created a force illusion, not that she was making herself younger. I guess ill go with the one where she was born during the rebellion era

If its only appearance you're concerned about, that can be sorted narratively in backstory. Perhaps contact with an artifact or something along those lines? It wouldn't effect game mechanics or anything, and may provide an interesting tangent for a mission here or there.

I'm afraid I won't be able to sort ic posts till maybe Wednesday, but I'll try get to it as soon as I can.

51 minutes ago, player3333902 said:

Hmmm. The only one I can think of for not looking old is the sith Zash in the swtor game. She's pretty old and did use the force to make herself young, but im not sure if thats a sith technique or just a nuetral one XD

Just checked and she would be 70... the thing is, i was confused for awhile given that han, luke and leia looked so old... if they are 70 in tfa, then it would be around 40+ aby? So yea... but that was my bad XD

TFA and TLJ take place 34 ABY (30 years after RotJ). Luke and Leia were 53 in TFA and TLJ. They were 19 in ANH. Han was about 69. He was 35 in ANH, roughly the same age as Boba Fett. Carrie Fisher was only 60 when she passed away, and both she and Mark Hammil are older than their characters. So, if your character was born 36BBY she would be 70 exactly.

Ah ok my bad. They looked like 70 to me XD srry bout that.

6 hours ago, Rabobankrider said:

If its only appearance you're concerned about, that can be sorted narratively in backstory. Perhaps contact with an artifact or something along those lines? It wouldn't effect game mechanics or anything, and may provide an interesting tangent for a mission here or there.

I'm afraid I won't be able to sort ic posts till maybe Wednesday, but I'll try get to it as soon as I can.

Oh yeah... that's interesting. I can do that. It would make an interesting side adventure if ever needed XD.

For my force prod, i don't need any force powers to do it right? Unless I want to find my way to elias

17 hours ago, EliasWindrider said:

Change his last name and relationship to your other character and he’s good. Your two characters cannot know each other.

9 hours ago, player3333902 said:

For my force prod, i don't need any force powers to do it right? Unless I want to find my way to elias

I looked over your starting character’s sheet and found an error on it. The official Ability score adjustments for a Chiss (Enter the Unknown page 21), before spending XP, have them start with a 3 in Intellect. You have him with only a 2.

1 hour ago, Tramp Graphics said:

I looked over your starting character’s sheet and found an error on it. The official Ability score adjustments for a Chiss (Enter the Unknown page 21), before spending XP, have them start with a 3 in Intellect. You have him with only a 2.

Oh ok my bad XD

Just now, player3333902 said:

Oh ok my bad XD

To be specific, a Chiss starts with a 3 in Intellect , and a 1 in Presence , with all other stats starting at 2. That means that your 3 in Agility must be paid for out of XP.

I'm guessing by the update to your sheet, you thought the 3 went to Cunning ? Now that it's fixed, you're good. Are you going to get the Jedi Utility belt for Akua? She's gonna need something to hang her lightsaber on.

Yeah I put in a point for agility. For the utility belt, i do not hv enough creds fr it atm, so I'm just gonna say that she keeps it hidden inside her cloak. Kind of like how general greivious does for his lightsabers

15 minutes ago, player3333902 said:

Yeah I put in a point for agility. For the utility belt, i do not hv enough creds fr it atm, so I'm just gonna say that she keeps it hidden inside her cloak. Kind of like how general greivious does for his lightsabers

Your character is listed as currently having 3200 credits. the Jedi Utility Belt is only 1000 credits.

@Tramp Graphics , just so there's no confusion, I'm going to write up the contents of the info that you stole on the pc's. If I've made errors or missed stuff out for peoples characters, @Tramp Graphics , @EliasWindrider , @Stormbourne , @TheShard , @player3333902 let me know!

Operation Scorch:

[Redacted] has compiled a list on what is believed to be the large majority of remaining force users in the known galaxy. The majority of those on this list are survivors of order 66 and the following hunt under the former Darth Vader and the inquisition. Targets are to be apprehended if possible, and eliminated if not.

Korath Lorren: With additional input from [redacted], Lorren has been identified as a force user who has been under the tutelage of several masters, and was an apprentice at the Skywalker academy. Operatives have presumed him to have been killed during the academies destruction. The file on Lorren was going to be closed, but [redacted] has demanded that it remain open. Operatives will continue to hunt for him. [Redacted] has provided a physical description, see below.

Reesh Zarru: A Gand former imperial operative who was a part of [redacted]. Proved to be a talented hunter who was part of several successful operations under the old empire. Disappeared aftter the battle of Yavin, presumably to Gand where he could blend in.

Additional, a second analysis of old records suggests that Zarru was one of several force users who made a prison break during transportation to Mustafar.

Side note, operatives have noted that a large concentration of hunters have been arriving on Zygeria, including several Gand findsman. Although it is unlikely that one is Zarru, it is an opportunity to test the hypothesis regarding the high concentration of force users in the findsman community. No physical description due to the familiarity in the species.

Ysanna Culture: Although no specific individuals have been identified, researchers has speculated that the people of Ossus are decedents of the old jedi culture. This should be investigated further, and may require a task force being dispatched to Ossus.

Excal'ur Pendragon: Survivor of order 66, disappeared almost immediately afterwards. Operatives have been unable to locate Pendragon, but images were extracted from the temple of what he looked like at the time, see below.

Side note, operatives have heard rumours of jedi survivors fleeing to Dantooine due to historical relevance. It is possible that Pendragon is one of those survivors, [redacted] will investigate further.

Drez'n Bercilak: Drall member of a Corellian sect of Jedi known as the green knights. Survivor of order 66, after which he disappeared. It is suspected that he fled to Drall where he can blend in. Seems to be the last survivor of the sect, although the popularity of the knights means he most likely has non force users assisting him in hiding. Images extracted from the temple can be seen below of what he looked like at the time of order 66.

Akua Serendine: Miraluka survivor of order 66. Additional priority is assigned to this target as a member of the former and current rebellion. Will have additional contacts of interest as well as possible leads on other force users. Capture is imperative. Images extracted from the temple can be seen below.

@EliasWindrider , I think without a check what Elias is sensing there may be a bit much. I'm ok with you knowing about something big coming, that's fair enough, but knowing all the details regarding a force user planning on stealing ships is a bit specific. If you want to make a sense check you may be able to identify a force user near by.

@player3333902 , if you want to do a sense check as well, that will allow you to sense Elias. The same check can be used to poke who he senses.

Bit of an info dump there, but I think it'll help get things rolling.

Also @Tramp Graphics , I know you put in a rule about a players characters not being linked, but considering @EliasWindrider has said that they won't be connected during training etc, it shouldn't be a massive problem. If he was planing to teach himself it'd be one thing, but he's not.

Also @TheShard , I should have asked, if you're making a forsee check, which upgrades do you want to activate with your force powers? Just so I know what he should be seeing.

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