this distribution issue is driving me nuts. Our store got passed over again with the preordered stock, going straight to back ordered again. As did many of the stores this side of the city.

Amazon.ca was selling the card packs for over thirty dollars (CDN) which is ludicrous. Even still, they were near sold out.

I ordered from a larger store that got their stock, but I feel like this is enforcing the cycle where the stores that order lots of stock get stock, and the small stores get nothing...

LVO data~!

Top cut rates (baseline 27.90%) with >=10 appearances:
bobafett: 54.55% (11)
whisper: 36.36% (11)
tradefederationdrone: 34.78% (23)
kyloren: 30.77% (13)
goldsquadrontrooper: 30.00% (10)
grandinquisitor: 28.57% (14)
darthvader: 26.92% (26)
fennrau: 26.67% (15)
obiwankenobi: 25.00% (16)
soontirfel: 23.53% (17)

Top percents of faction:
tradefederationdrone: 79.31%
obiwankenobi: 66.67%
kyloren: 61.9%
darthvader: 54.17%
tallissanlintra: 42.86%
goldsquadrontrooper: 41.67%
soontirfel: 35.42%
greersonnel: 33.33%
quickdraw: 33.33%
zetasquadronsurvivor: 33.33%

editors commentary: 7 lists had epsilon squadron cadets and 5 of them made cut

Is slave 1 undercosted?

41 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Is slave 1 undercosted?

I count to 200 everytime that I Boba. I thus use it about 2 times a game max. Against a lot of sub-I5, I fly him like I would a Resistance A (yes, yes, on Vassal. Don't plan on buying into Resistance). It's not like I'm doing Boba Fenn against all the I5. As someone who fights Boba far more than play him, I'm cool with its pricing. Kinda wish some talented list hipster would give him Torps of some kind just to say that Slave 1 is technically used every game.

OOPS! ALL INTERCEPTORS IN HYPERSPACE! Get jealous, Fel.

Kylo Blackout Rush

Kylo Rush/FOTP FOTP

Kylo Blackout Holo

Kylo Rush Holo

Blackout Rush Holo

Vonreg Rush/FOTP FOTP

Vonreg Rush Holo

Vonreg Blackout Kylo

Vonreg Holo Kylo

Vonreg Holo Ember

Kylo Holo Ember

Vonreg Holo torpedo Avenger

Honorable Lols:

Proud Trad Primed Recoil: Cloud charging until you make the mistake of putting an end to it! Why Recoil? Aside from certain edge cases entirely within the opponent's cards, his ability refers to stress, further flaunting the upgrades!

Slave 1 is so undercosted it's bizarre.

But I don't think it's a big deal. Boba is expensive and it's pretty much baked into the build, so it's all part of the package. In a way, it staples it to him, rather than Marauder and a Gunner, which I sort of like.

I'll Slave multiple times in a game. I count to 195/6 and play into it heavily. It's pure b**lsh*t and absolute agency robbery. I try to make the most of it. This does not make me popular.

I went over Stabilized Bs in my call for suggestions thread in detail on the numbers.

4 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Is slave 1 undercosted?

Supernatural for I5s costs 24pts.

Slave One for Boba costs 1pt.

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

3 hours ago, Darth Seridur said:

Supernatural for I5s costs 24pts.

Slave One for Boba costs 1pt.

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Speaking of supernatural, shouldn’t bb-8 be good? Requires a blue maneuver, but can’t damage you. Two charges should be plenty?

12 minutes ago, AEIllingworth said:

Speaking of supernatural, shouldn’t bb-8 be good? Requires a blue maneuver, but can’t damage you. Two charges should be plenty?

From the outside, looking in on a mates list, (for HS ofc), it seems to be more about efficient use of points than anything else.

With Nien out and Poe very expensive, it gets a bit squeaky.

8 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Is slave 1 undercosted?

1 hour ago, AEIllingworth said:

Speaking of supernatural, shouldn’t bb-8 be good? Requires a blue maneuver, but can’t damage you. Two charges should be plenty?

9 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Is slave 1 undercosted?

Yes. Seasoned Navigator is 7 points on Boba Fett.

1 hour ago, Cuz05 said:

From the outside, looking in on a mates list, (for HS ofc), it seems to be more about efficient use of points than anything else.

With Nien out and Poe very expensive, it gets a bit squeaky.

It's Ello Asty who's out of Hyperspace, but Pattern Analyzer is also out, so Nien might as well be.

24 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I was trying to build @Boom Owl ‘s picture squad list and there is room for activities.

I’ve tried three combinations of just fireball and Rz-2 at this point, and they really need a 3 dice gun for some matchups. Fireballs can be anywhere but don’t do anything when they get there. RZ-2 will plink forever if they chase or get chased (but if they set up to get chased and then get ignored they take three turns to do anything again, and if they set up to chase and your opponent turns in they mostly die).

I matched up against a friends Vonreg and 5 epsilons, and plinked a single shield on a single /fo for 75 minutes before finally getting the block and killbox on Vonreg at time, and that feels like the general direction every game would go. Too stressful.

Upgrades on the fireballs feel too cute, every point past 26 on them feels like a waste. Even dead man’s switch, they have too much health and run away too well. Just a screen of stupidly fast blockers seems (five games in) the best use for them.

3 hours ago, AEIllingworth said:

Speaking of supernatural, shouldn’t bb-8 be good? Requires a blue maneuver, but can’t damage you. Two charges should be plenty?

It's worth look at just who BB8 is available to. Poe likes to self stress (and primed is pricey,) Nien and Ello would probably prefer afterburners to capitalize on their signature moves, and the I4s and under are generally efficiency pieces. Outside of cute Aces High builds, the couch probably have higher priority upgrades. Jury is out on the Fireball.

In contrast, a lot of supernatural candidates don't have to self stress outside of turn-arounds. Or they have useful links with the ability to clear that stress easily. The pricing of Supernatural feeds into build synergy. It's high for ships that tend toward points fortressing and lower in cost than bb8 for generic Inquisitors.

3 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Yes. Seasoned Navigator is 7 points on Boba Fett.

This.

Its seasoned Navigator without the consequence. Slave 1 should at least be initiative scaled.

7 hours ago, AEIllingworth said:

I was trying to build @Boom Owl ‘s picture squad list and there is room for activities.

I’ve tried three combinations of just fireball and Rz-2 at this point, and they really need a 3 dice gun for some matchups. Fireballs can be anywhere but don’t do anything when they get there. RZ-2 will plink forever if they chase or get chased (but if they set up to get chased and then get ignored they take three turns to do anything again, and if they set up to chase and your opponent turns in they mostly die).

I matched up against a friends Vonreg and 5 epsilons, and plinked a single shield on a single /fo for 75 minutes before finally getting the block and killbox on Vonreg at time, and that feels like the general direction every game would go. Too stressful.

Upgrades on the fireballs feel too cute, every point past 26 on them feels like a waste. Even dead man’s switch, they have too much health and run away too well. Just a screen of stupidly fast blockers seems (five games in) the best use for them.

I’m pretty sure Deadmans or Cybernetics is a decent buy in them.

18 hours ago, svelok said:

LVO data~!

Top cut rates (baseline 27.90%) with >=10 appearances:
bobafett: 54.55% (11)
whisper: 36.36% (11)
tradefederationdrone: 34.78% (23)
kyloren: 30.77% (13)
goldsquadrontrooper: 30.00% (10)
grandinquisitor: 28.57% (14)
darthvader: 26.92% (26)
fennrau: 26.67% (15)
obiwankenobi: 25.00% (16)
soontirfel: 23.53% (17)

Top percents of faction:
tradefederationdrone: 79.31%
obiwankenobi: 66.67%
kyloren: 61.9%
darthvader: 54.17%
tallissanlintra: 42.86%
goldsquadrontrooper: 41.67%
soontirfel: 35.42%
greersonnel: 33.33%
quickdraw: 33.33%
zetasquadronsurvivor: 33.33%

editors commentary: 7 lists had epsilon squadron cadets and 5 of them made cut

I don't think 10 is a good cutoff, as that's over 50% of some factions total player count...

that's why single tournaments are pretty much meaningless

15 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

that's why single tournaments are pretty much meaningless

All I learned from LVO is that 7b is also baned in extended.

41 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I don't think 10 is a good cutoff, as that's over 50% of some factions total player count...

I tried 5 before 10, but it was just epsilons and sycks and those are the only two numbers I know how to type

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

that's why tournaments are pretty much meaningless

FTFY

Moral of the first Wave 6 (not counting B&N outliers allowed) tourney I've attended:

If you ace, build efficiency + ace and keep the bid slim. But if you're focusing more on the ace action and don't have as much efficiency, bbbbbbbbbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddd. No room for half measures.

Statistically meaningless, but quite possibly a portend of what to see in larger events with opposite races to maximize efficiency on one extreme and to race to the bottom on the other.

On 1/31/2020 at 6:09 PM, LagJanson said:

this distribution issue is driving me nuts. Our store got passed over again with the preordered stock, going straight to back ordered again. As did many of the stores this side of the city.

Amazon.ca was selling the card packs for over thirty dollars (CDN) which is ludicrous. Even still, they were near sold out.

I ordered from a larger store that got their stock, but I feel like this is enforcing the cycle where the stores that order lots of stock get stock, and the small stores get nothing...

Welcome to Diamond/Alliance. They do this to comics all the time, before Asmodee gave them distribution of FFG items. It's really stupid.

3 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Statistically meaningless, but quite possibly a portend of what to see in larger events with opposite races to maximize efficiency on one extreme and to race to the bottom on the other.

Exactly this. I always felt like that was the intention of how the bid was supposed to work. If you bid, go big or go home. Ace + Efficiency is my preference, but I totally understand why some players love to just ace it up, and for them, a massive bid totally makes sense.