4 minutes ago, jagsba said:

I think you're undervaluing the community's willingness to drop insane bids.

If you're not moving first, you're last!

5 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

If you're not moving first, you're last!

Thanks, John Madden.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

Thanks, John Madden.

8 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Thanks, John Madden.

That's some straight Ricky Bobby **** there, BP.

51 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

So, advanced sensors?

Sensors and an ept, yeah.

32 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

That's some straight Ricky Bobby **** there, BP.

Friendship with Bio ended.

9 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Friendship with Bio ended.

Rekt.

54 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

I think you're undervaluing Lando.

48 minutes ago, Oldpara said:

I think you're undervaluing Rigged Cargo

Trust me I believe they are both really good, which one should I take and is there anything you would drop, I just know in practice this list has been performing bad *** as is, but those upgrades have been on my mind, especially rigged since the interaction with trick shot and just the ability to have that gotcha moment, but proton seems to play plenty of mind games

so would you take both and run at 196? Do you take 1 of those, and would you drop anything I have...maybe fearless...maybe proton(although I think proton is pretty worth it)

43 minutes ago, jagsba said:

I think you're undervaluing the community's willingness to drop insane bids.

This may be true , and if I could just squeeze another useful ship I would totally go all the way up, if your running efficiency then who cares about a bid, but if your running a 3 ship list that’s really a two ship with floating super ptl...having perfect information doesn’t hurt, especially In limited where it’s take a tie swarm or bring really maneuverable 5s and 6s

but super willing to have my mind changed

1 minute ago, TheOz said:

Trust me I believe they are both really good, which one should I take and is there anything you would drop, I just know in practice this list has been performing bad *** as is, but those upgrades have been on my mind, especially rigged since the interaction with trick shot and just the ability to have that gotcha moment, but proton seems to play plenty of mind games

so would you take both and run at 196? Do you take 1 of those, and would you drop anything I have...maybe fearless...maybe proton(although I think proton is pretty worth it)

I would just upgrade to lando.

Lando's attacks actually hurt if ignored, and is much harder to kill if attacked.

9 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

I would just upgrade to lando.

Lando's attacks actually hurt if ignored, and is much harder to kill if attacked.

He was actually in my I original build and I played a game with him and it was great....but my main x wing practice buddy has been running a heavy bid and so he kind of got me bid scared ...but I see your point and 192 is pretty freaking good bid too, I’ll think about it today

1 minute ago, TheOz said:

He was actually in my I original build and I played a game with him and it was great....but my main x wing practice buddy has been running a heavy bid and so he kind of got me bid scared ...but I see your point and 192 is pretty freaking good bid too, I’ll think about it today

You simply will not win all bids.

Lando is just a LOT better than the bid + L3.

Eventually, you're going to move first, somewhere.

9 minutes ago, TheOz said:

but super willing to have my mind changed

Of course it depends on your playstyle, but I actively play Boba/Fenn/Shuttle archetype with some successes (Polish Team Championships won) and I find both having and not having initiative somehow beneficial.

When I have initiative I can fully capitalize my Han Gunner against other 5s, I can bump other 5s, and I can drop Cargo easily on other 5s. And dropping cargo with Proton bomb around is devastating (stressed ships usually cannot run away from the bomb)

And I still have i6 to arc doge other 5s.

Knowing that both situations are manageable why to play short 12 points? So I dropped all the bid.

2 minutes ago, Oldpara said:

When I have initiative I can fully capitalize my Han Gunner against other 5s, I can bump other 5s, and I can drop Cargo easily on other 5s. And dropping cargo with Proton bomb around is devastating (stressed ships usually cannot run away from the bomb)

Knowing that both situations are manageable why to play short 12 points? So I dropped all the bid.

I see you are a man of culture.

1 hour ago, Biophysical said:

Thanks, John Madden.

1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:

You simply will not win all bids.

Lando is just a LOT better than the bid + L3.

Eventually, you're going to move first, somewhere.

Yeah I think I have been convinced now, thanks

1 hour ago, Oldpara said:

Of course it depends on your playstyle, but I actively play Boba/Fenn/Shuttle archetype with some successes (Polish Team Championships won) and I find both having and not having initiative somehow beneficial.

When I have initiative I can fully capitalize my Han Gunner against other 5s, I can bump other 5s, and I can drop Cargo easily on other 5s. And dropping cargo with Proton bomb around is devastating (stressed ships usually cannot run away from the bomb)

And I still have i6 to arc doge other 5s.

Knowing that both situations are manageable why to play short 12 points? So I dropped all the bid.

I have totally noticed that waiting to trigger Han can suck sometimes, and the rigged cargo situation you mentioned has been on my mind as a killer move, I really am just more worried a about fenn with the bid, idk if the championship was limited (2.0 rerelease) or not, but my only thing is I know almost every is gonna bring a 6 in limited and Vader will be there and that guy especially makes fenn pretty sad if played well. But maybe I just need to suck it up, I’m pretty on board with lando and being at 192...I’ll consider rigged but I’m not sure if it’s worth losing the bid to other 6s in most cases, but I’ll think about it

all add that in extended I don’t think a 6 needs a serious as much as a 5 because there are so many other amazing pilots at many initiative values... but in limited its leans much heavier on ps 6 ship if you don’t take a tie swarm

but if the championship was limited then double hats off to you sir, shows what I know

oh yeah and thanks Krayts! Both for filling me with wise knowledge and to help me win the tournament....and if I lose hard I now have another excuse besides Mah dice! ....”but the krayts said”

advice disclamer-some skill required

2 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Rekt.

No moar ZakSnuggles (tm)

10 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

No moar ZakSnuggles (tm)

You just had to go and make it weird, didn't you?

John Madden! John Madden!

Football!

AEIOU

AEIOU

AEIUO

9 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I think a fat guri that costs more than 70-something points is a mistake. Trim her down, pick up a coordinate shuttle.

that's what i was doing before. got tired of giving up 28 points a game and then playing catch-up. This is the new "one of my ships is fatter than one of yours; chase me," strategy.

12 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

that's what i was doing before. got tired of giving up 28 points a game and then playing catch-up. This is the new "one of my ships is fatter than one of yours; chase me," strategy.

Fat ships were good because they could mitigate damage. Guri gets hit if you shoot her, and a what is this, 62+8+6+10+8 guri? A 94 guri is not 94 good.

If you want to make a fat ship that mitigates damage, make your boba Extra Thicc. The 22-28 point shuttle is there to feed Boba Reinforce, not to fully engage.

28 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

John Madden! John Madden!

Football!

AEIOU

AEIOU

AEIUO

Hi, I'm gonna order a pizza.

Hi, can I order a pizza?

No

Why?

Cause you are John Madden.

3 hours ago, TheOz said:

Yeah I think I have been convinced now, thanks

If it seals the deal, last weekend Boba/Fenn/Lando won a 40 person 2nd ed wave limited store champ in Sydney.

list was

Fenn Rau (68)- Fearless (3)
Boba Fett (80)- Perceptive Copilot (10)- Marauder (3)- Han Solo (4)
Lando Calrissian (26)- Tactical Officer (2)

Bobas. Bobas everywhere.

7 hours ago, LagJanson said:

You just had to go and make it weird, didn't you?

No I probably did that a while ago.

11 hours ago, Chumbalaya said:

Saving the thread from falling off the page.

I'm extremely happy with TIE Phantoms. Evened up my streamed game record to 3-3. They seem to like throwing me up on stream.