desperately bad ship repaint

By gounour, in Star Wars: Armada Painting and Modification

hi folks, back to painting SW ships

first a pair of photos from a game beta-test with minis, nothing really new on board

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two new addition, a Carrack and a Dreadnought from Mel, in WSF

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photos are from my phone, as I have misplaced my camera at a friend's home, so unsteady hands

some more work needed on both

two new additions to Zann consortium "Perfectly Loyal and Law-Abiding" pirate fleet.

an interceptor frigate named Repellent

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and a Crusader corvette named Provision

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all in WSF from Mel, material really hard to detail

here are two DP-20 in WSF that are bad. My first mini in the material, did not know how to go with it, do not know now how to go back to it.any advice? (I will not strip and redo!)

first one, the Citrine

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second the Garnet

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obviously too much wash, brush and line?

29 minutes ago, gounour said:

here are two DP-20 in WSF that are bad. My first mini in the material, did not know how to go with it, do not know now how to go back to it.any advice? (I will not strip and redo!)

first one, the Citrine

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second the Garnet

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obviously too much wash, brush and line?

WS&F is a difficult material to paint nicely. Your goal needs to be, set it up on the table next to a similar size ship, and walk around the table. If it looks good from that distance, you have achieved success! Any closer inspection and you will see every flaw. I highly recommend setting it aside for a week or two before you do the table examination. After spending hours starting at it closely, all you see are the flaws.

I think that they're about as good as the material will allow, and far better than most people could do. The Citrine looks fantastic, much-used and worn. I'm not quite as fond of the Garnet . Perhaps too much contrast between the light & dark areas of the ship? I'm not entirely sure.

still much to do on it, but there is the Acclamator FUD from Mel

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1 hour ago, gounour said:

still much to do on it, but there is the Acclamator FUD from Mel

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I love that paint job so far! Please keep posting pictures. Some additional highlights are going to really make that yellow/brown pop!

3 nebulons B that were fast to paint

the Glitter

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the Long Raid

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the opposition

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Hi, back to painting Armada(ish) minis from a long Napoleonic bout

WiP still, on Mel's WSF Bellator

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soo much work, and it's about half the size of the SSD which has to go next....

I'm really thinking of getting a Bellator for myself when the lease is up on my apartment and I have some new cashflow. I've only gotten FUD for Mel's ships. How well does the WSF hold up to FFG's models in terms of detail?

Not too bad, depending on the model.

Mel's second SSD is way better, detail wise, than his first. As is the Mandator 4. The larger panel lines on these really help. Looking at my Bellator, the details are a little more fine, than the material can really take well, but will still look good from the table top, with a halfway decent paint job. The big key to make it fit in with FFG ships, is a good satin or gloss clear coat at the end. There is a shiny quality to the FFG models, because of the smooth surface, that can't be replicated on WS&F any other way. I say, satin or gloss, because it should be one step up from whatever finnish you currently use to clear coat your FFG, or FUD ships, to get a similar look.

For the rest, proper preparation is a big help. A good tooth brush cleaning/soap and water wash to get rid of excess white powder, then a coat of clear varnish brushed on. I have been using a Minwax water based Polycrylic, clear matte. It cuts the absorbancy of the material, and takes the grainy texture down a notch or two. It is not a perfect material, so be prepared to modify your technique.

I have, and continue to paint, several WS&F models. I'm more than happy to help you out with the process.

4 hours ago, ThatRobHuman said:

I'm really thinking of getting a Bellator for myself when the lease is up on my apartment and I have some new cashflow. I've only gotten FUD for Mel's ships. How well does the WSF hold up to FFG's models in terms of detail?

I think you are putting the wrong question here

WSF Bellator is 156€, which personally I can afford. FUD one is 388€ which I totally can not; plus it is 2-part, and I already own a 2-part WSF resurgent that I still do not know how I will be able to put together.

detail-wise, WSF is crap. But then the question is, can you buy the FUD alternate and paint/mount it so it will be better looking than the low grade one?

My personal answer is "no" to both, so I buy mostly WSF stuff, except for small to medium ships, where FUD is still within my budget. I WILL buy an aggressor in FUD in the future, but that is about it. Wish I could get more.....

Naw, I was asking the right question - I don't mind the split FUD design. I can make that work better than I can make a not-as-good WSF print work.

finished (for the time being) the Bellator WSF

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going for my Executor WSF now

On 8/6/2017 at 11:11 PM, gounour said:

some WiP on a Keldalbe, found how to highlight, some more work on turrets and reactor

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This ship looks so cool. I eventually want to build a mandalorian fleet

finally got rid of this one. just missing its gloss varnish coat, the " Stadthouder Willhelm-Friederijk van Orantje", flagship of the growing Orange Sector Fleet

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just a small Gladiator who apparently has seen a lot.

A fast paint job to see what could go from black in less than 4 hours

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hi folks, been busy painting napoleonics 25mm, but here is "Donald Duck", a pelta frigate for the Disney Hegemony (small and previous unknown splinter of the rebellion). not finished nor satisfactory, but I must go forth...

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a fire wing bulk cruiser to follow

On 3/4/2019 at 7:28 PM, Kylemcph240 said:

This ship looks so cool. I eventually want to build a mandalorian fleet

Thank you, it's not too bad indeed

Wish I could have bought another one, but now shapeways prices are so prohibitive it's dead for me

a bulk cruiser for the fire wing, Burning Ember (WSF from Mel)

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5 hours ago, gounour said:

a bulk cruiser for the fire wing, Burning Ember (WSF from Mel)

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That’s a West End Games design from 1989 and was the first time Thrawn used the cloaking was introduced.

Mostly used by the Rebllion or criminal cartels.

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On 3/22/2018 at 4:48 AM, gounour said:

two new addition, a Carrack and a Dreadnought from Mel, in WSF

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photos are from my phone, as I have misplaced my camera at a friend's home, so unsteady hands

some more work needed on both

Pound for pound, freakishly heavy firepower, a light cruiser that packs a punch near that of a heavy cruiser.

13 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

That’s a West End Games design from 1989 and was the first time Thrawn used the cloaking was introduced.

Mostly used by the Rebllion or criminal cartels.

mostly used by corporate sector in fact, it has Snail-speed, paraplegic(without wheelchair option)-agility, is cruiser-sized without the slightest anti-ship armament, has been laid out with suboptimal components, is prone to breakdown and is both too expensive to be considered expendable and too low quality to be deemed reworkable as the Dreadnought was in Assault frigates

the best proof of its worthlessness is the fact that you can buy one with only the slightest of cursory Imperial Security inquiries, even if it is capital-ship sized....

it boasts several very large freight compartments that can be reworked as fighters bays, holding up to 3 full fighter/bombers squadrons, and is quite well furnished in good AA turrets, so it can be used as carrier, but you must remember to protect it well, and to let it retreat first and early , else you may be forced to leg it home....

13 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Pound for pound, freakishly heavy firepower, a light cruiser that packs a punch near that of a heavy cruiser.

it is indeed a heavy puncher, but has close to no fighter complement or AA defenses, plus can be easily put out of the fight (it is still a light cruiser). But it can match speed with almost any fighter, it is a very fast glass canon....