Hi all,

after having looked over everything the avesome painter have posted here, I give a go at showing what a low-talented and lazy guy like me can do

one rebel fire attack wing, missing y and B wings

some neutral ships

Air attack wing Home One (sooo many panels)

water attack wing MC30

water attack wing MKII

Bwing squadron with xWing escort

Earth attack wing MKII

MC30

and Bwing squadron with Xwing escort

Mel's Quasar fire in WSF

"megapterium" MkII, a whale...

Some good looking ships there.

Darthain> thank you

some imperial Tie Swarm, 18 squadron of it

Mel's dreadnough V2 in WSF

Mel's Strike Cruiser, in WSF too

an Interdictor with very little added, just some ink, lighting and its "Orantje" Fleet markings (IRL it's quite darker)

2 gladiators

2 raiders

and 3 victorys

everything here is done according to "no plan at all", The stands will be done later, just a layer of cheap black paint for now.

I'm seeking for new ideas for a liberty (which is going at the moment toward a "tempest sky" theme) and a second (gasp!) home one for the Air attack wing, Anyone would like to help?

I forgot to comment when I first saw this, but that water Assault Frigate has to be my favourite one I've seen yet, and unlike many people I'm actually quite fond of the ship. I love that colour scheme, and the gradient colouring on the main panels is a fantastic look. Great work!

thank you.

this one was done,as everything else, to experiment something new. this time, "what if I water-brush this wet prussian blue paint coat that looks dull with a n°16 flat brush?" It turned out quite good in fact, certainly thanks to the light yellow first coat; yellow and blue are always a winner.

2 xwings, 1 awing, 1 ywing squadrons and a Scuurg for the air attack wing

xwings were my first try at it, will certainly redo it later

2 more x and a b wing squadron for that attack wing on the desk, then either a Dazzle camo ISD or Mel' executor in Wsf, long time work for both.

I really enjoy the Subtlety of it - the fact that the white and the Ghost Grey provide such a contrast on what is almsot always a dark starmap...

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

I really enjoy the Subtlety of it - the fact that the white and the Ghost Grey provide such a contrast on what is almsot always a dark starmap...

very much agreed

This humble and unworthy disciple basks in such ill-merited praise, he will try to shake of some of his laziness so as not to disappoint you in the future, O masters of the unerring brushes!

7 hours ago, gounour said:

This humble and unworthy disciple basks in such ill-merited praise, he will try to shake of some of his laziness so as not to disappoint you in the future, O masters of the unerring brushes!

Hush you

I am hardly a Master.

What I am, is a Well Trained Stooge.

Look at the likes of FoaS and Vykes for the Master-Territory

Seriously, hear me out.

I have very little "natural talent" when it comes to Painting. I've lived with Golden Demon Masters, sharing houses, renting back rooms, etc... I have little natural talent .

But I've learned techniques. I've learned shortcuts. I've applied and learned every little bit, on a baseline that is basically garbage

What I can recognise now, is raw talent. A lot of people here have it - all they need to learn now, is those Techniques - and they'll leave me in the Dust.

The application of colour correction and subtlety - which you expressed with those later Rebel Squadrons - that really does show an attention to the background as well as the model. Which is a great technique to have.

Looking up, the Earth Attack Frigate is a great example of the minimalist mudzone pallet - and getting a texture at the same time that feels gritty. Just looking at it, I feel like I need to wash my hands...

The Water Attack Frigate has some wonderful blending on the larger panels, with the lighter inner surface sweeping to the dark - it is, again, a subtlety that I struggle at here in Canada (but I could frustratingly achieve back home)... So again, its applause-worthy.

If I had to be critical, I think the only thing I don't like are the Victories. I mean, they don't look bad, per se, but there is something about them that grinds me the wrong way, especially in comparison to your other works thusfar... I think it is the way the side-shot one is presented - it makes it look like it has a really white wash in the recesses, and that gives the dark grey panel-lines a photo-negative finish. Which, in itself, is good - but its jarring to have a photo-negative finish and a standard washline finish in the same image... The brain goes: "Is it negative or positive?" it shoul dbe one or the other... But again, that's a hard criticism to put to mind, because even though its not something I enjoy or can really do myself, its still technically well presented.

White, and consequently, Light Greys, can be an absolute bastard to get right - and I can see the visual improvement you've made as you go through - but if I had to nitpick and pick out what to work on - its larger white panels - like what you'd see on the Imperial Ships (rather than the Squadrons)... And my only advice is to start with that grey basecoat, and then work up to white - with very thin layers. Build them up gradually- if you paint and see white, you put too much white on.

That way you'll get smoother transitions...

- Its also the #1 thing I am still working on, here. because of my temperature and humidity issues, I get a lot of quick-drying paint, so I tend to want to try to glop it on to compensate, and that just doesn't work - so its my own improvement

I hope this has been an honest help - otherwise, I've been rambling a lot.

Hi,

Advice and help is always wanted and welcome. A bit of background, I'm 47, and I have been painting 25mm historical minis for more than 20 years. I have painted more than 8 000 thus far and am not even mildly satisfied by more than half a dozen of it, but historical minis does not permit to check techniques, so I tried some 40k, but ruleset is so transparently a bad transposition of a med-fant one that I went out quite quickly. Armada ones were more what I sook for, so anything I painted thus far is a technique benchmark. regarding Victories, the first one was painted to check what would become of a white-basedcoated mini when painted with black-basecoated technique, plus a batch of 4 different greys. the two others were done simultaneously, one over a white basecoat and the other over a black one. I think I'll stay with black, which is more to my liking.

I know the rule of grey-coating future white minis, but I think it gives a bit dull finish to white; I prefer black coat, plus lemon yellow or skeleton bone first coat, then ivory then white. white color tends to age yellowish, not greyish, and mud getting between the plates goes to yellow-brown too.

Now I'm experimenting the use of children's crayons as firstcoat (sealed with a coat of medium lightly brushed on it) the results are very interesting, and any one having attended nursery school (really!) is able to do it. Plus, if it's bad, you just have to shower the mini before applying medium to go back. I'll post some photos this evening

a liberty that was black primed, then had a throughout blue crayon layer applied on the top side, finally lightly brushed with matt medium. it had the effect of washing some of the blue pigments off the exposed parts, bringing forth the black primer

a try with red-orange-yellow crayons on the reactor parts of the same, with interesting results... will certainly be washed off to redo something more neat with paint, but interesting nonetheless

the effect of grey crayon over mel's SSD after black primer (the centre is just primer)

[megalomaniac rant on]

Ha-ha, I own 2 Executors, bow before my Imperial power! (with an ISD for size)

[rant off]

What are you going to do with two Executors? You crazy mad man!

well , as the first had a broken and missing part on the belly (can be corrected with greenstuff, but unacceptable on a 270€ model), the second was free....

the first will be used either as:

-ballistic tests, or "how does a WSF model passes the 'rebound test'?" (don't shoot, just joking!)

-be further modded to a derelict state and painted

-given to a friend who very much want one but doesn't have the cash.

anyhow the last of Air attack wave fighters (rush job, I'm fed up with fighter at the moment, will certainly be modified at a later date)

Fighters can become oppressive. But whenever I'm tired of painting fighters I remind myself I don't have to paint 100+ foot soldiers (I used to play empire and some imperials guard in my warhammer days). That makes me feel much better.

Heh, I know how that can be.

I painted well over 150 TIE/Ln Fighter Squadrons alone, last business year. It was a good year

I get so confused by this thread. There really are some desperately bad paint jobs.

And yet from the same painter, some equisite pieces. Those earth and water ships are utterly divine.

4 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

I get so confused by this thread. There really are some desperately bad paint jobs.

And yet from the same painter, some equisite pieces. Those earth and water ships are utterly divine.

It is a touch strange, I'll give you that.

On 09/07/2017 at 11:38 PM, Ginkapo said:

I get so confused by this thread. There really are some desperately bad paint jobs.

And yet from the same painter, some equisite pieces. Those earth and water ships are utterly divine.

You want the real scoop? Won't tell you my life, but due to a "minor" medical error 10 years ago, i've got (statistically) 4 to 8 years left holding a brush or even a mini. After that, i'll be either dead or in a bed not knowing I'm not. I think I've painted about half the mini I have to, so even if it's cool, I'm in a hurry...

but as my granpa said, "good health is a dubious state that will end bad" or "Life is the deadliest disease, you'll die from it no matter what you do".

On 11/07/2017 at 6:31 AM, gounour said:

You want the real scoop? Won't tell you my life, but due to a "minor" medical error 10 years ago, i've got (statistically) 4 to 8 years left holding a brush or even a mini. After that, i'll be either dead or in a bed not knowing I'm not. I think I've painted about half the mini I have to, so even if it's cool, I'm in a hurry...

but as my granpa said, "good health is a dubious state that will end bad" or "Life is the deadliest disease, you'll die from it no matter what you do".

Oh

that turned deep really quickly, really sorry man

Hopefully this is one of those cases where they say you have some years left and you end up living until you are 100 years old and ironically the medics died before you

On 7/9/2017 at 2:38 PM, Ginkapo said:

I get so confused by this thread. There really are some desperately bad paint jobs.

And yet from the same painter, some equisite pieces. Those earth and water ships are utterly divine.

It was a strange compliment, that's for sure. I don't think any of these repaints are desperately bad at all, (that's reserved for the 14 year olds playing 40k who vomit paint on models, as I once did myself...) and assume the title is just light-hearted self-deprecating humor. And anyways, we aren't trying to be Michelangelos, but just trying to have fun.

Keep up the good work. I too wish you a long good life, and lots of fun playing and painting with plastic toy ships.

23 hours ago, Visovics said:

Oh

that turned deep really quickly, really sorry man

Hopefully this is one of those cases where they say you have some years left and you end up living until you are 100 years old and ironically the medics died before you

to all> I've had 10 years to think over it, so I'm usually cool with it now (sometimes less so). I usually use it to tell some very dark-toned death-jokes that other would not be allowed to.

so much for it, let's go back to painting topic, I'm very much in demand of replies like the one Drasnighta made, so go for it