Think of how it was pulled off in Jedi Outcast.

Force Speed isn't just running super fast. It's an incredible time dilation for the user as well. Yes, they are moving faster, but everything else around them is much slower and that means that they have to alter their perception of time's flow by messing with their mental state. In addition to moving very fast.

That's exhausting.

Yes, they are moving faster, but everything else around them is much slower and that means that they have to alter their perception of time's flow by messing with their mental state. In addition to moving very fast.

That's exhausting.

Yes, they are moving faster, but everything else around them is much slower and that means that they have to alter their perception of time's flow by messing with their mental state. In addition to moving very fast.

That's exhausting.

Pfft, no it's not. I do it all the time. It's actually pretty relaxing.

The Force is not space-drugs.

That's glitterstim you're thinking of.

How exactly is glitterstim supposed to work? If the midichlorians are supposed to have anything to do with the potential for someone to sense the force then...does it promote a temporary increase in midichlorians? Is glitterstim somehow alive and contains midichlorians? Is it really just giant spider poop?

I hate Kevin J Anderson...

How exactly is glitterstim supposed to work? If the midichlorians are supposed to have anything to do with the potential for someone to sense the force then...does it promote a temporary increase in midichlorians? Is glitterstim somehow alive and contains midichlorians? Is it really just giant spider poop?

I hate Kevin J Anderson...

In the same way that Melange is just giant worm poop: yes. (Though it seems that glitterstim is rather secreted by the spiders to attract their main prey: a pure energy non-force-reactive creature.)

And understanding the specifics of how it works would require more info on the spiders, the bogeys, the drug it's self etc.

I imagine most sellers and users don't know how it works anymore than a coke or meth dealer knows how their product works, so I'd ask a Jedi archivist (pre-Empire era).

If you happen to be living in the limited spread-of-information Empire era, your info sources are more limited; you could see if Chom Frey Kaa is still alive in prison somewhere, or find Mika Anjiliac Chiera the Hutt as both created their own spice derivatives and would need an understanding of the spice to do so.

(Just don't get yourself shot!)

The biggest question about the force must be:

Why don't the Jedi always move at lightening speed like in TPM? Is it too draining? Does it leave them vulnerable to some forms of attack? Does it announce their presence in the force moreso than other powers? Was it just a one time thing and everyone just forgot about it? Bad writing for George again?

Would've come in handy at the end of TPM, shame Kenobi forgot about it...

Wait, is glitterstim canon? They sent those wookiees to Kessel in rebels but I don't remember them getting specific about the spice. Has it showed up in anything lately other than a scum upgrade card?

I'm kind of baffled where this idea that "kinetic force" can't push a gas came from.... what do they teach kids these days in science class?

Walk into a cloud of smoke and try and push it away with your hand.

Now imagine that cloud is fire.

Force Push is not a ****ing fan. Nobody Force Pushes with multiple rotating planes of force creating airflow.

Leaving aside the space magic, since others have already covered that fairly well, my original objection was to the assertion that "kinetic force" can't push a gas, which is false. How would gases move around, otherwise?

Rotary fans are a particularly efficient way for a simple motor to move air, but they are far from the only way to induce a force on to an air or fluid. Go to a toy store and find an "airzooka" for another way to move air using kinetic force.

I apologize for the sarcasm in my original post - that was uncalled for. But I really do wonder what's being taught in science classes these days, because if someone has gotten to the concept of kinetic force, then I really hope they're still covering that it works on air (or any sort of fluid, for that matter). Without that simple concept, airplanes wouldn't work. For that matter, neither would lungs...

Whoa hold on who said Lightsabers were hard light? They most certainly are not..!

No one said all of them are hard light. Some have been made to produce a hard light blade/bar/jack, which can be used to beat people with. Some where made to produce a ion blade, some have plasma blades, while others have laser blades. The sith and sometimes the jedi have supernatural blades. They have abilities linked to the force.

Rebels single biggest problem in my opinion is that the baddies are looking too good

Really? Because that's the thing I love most about Star Wars: TIE Fighter. That everyone in the Empire isn't a rabid dog looking just looking for an excuse to tear something apart. Some of them are just people trying to restore peace and order throughout the galaxy. Putting an end to traitors, criminals and terrorists.

Ok, that's true too. That's actually a very very good point. But.

TIE Fighter is about the point of view of the Empire, it can be inferred that they really are doing justice, peace and order through their actions or it could be propaganda and you could be blasting civilians.

Rebels is in the POV of the rebels, supposedly mostly doing good things. I've said a few times on this thread that heroes are defined by their villains, the more epic the villain, the more epic the hero.

Right now the Rebels crew are at around the puppy kicking stage.

After all, if a target isn't a threat to anyone, why is it a target at all?

Most imperials are not bad... they fight other factions that are evil, some are rebel forces that would never be excepted into the rebel alliance. The ZC is one, and they are now primary.

I don't think everyone in the Empire was evil but the upper ranks were rotten as could be and in an Empire if the upper ranks are rotten so is the organization.

The Empire was pretty much a textbook example of a terrorist state with the Death Stars as ultimate proof of that point.

If you look at the cross-section below, this is way smaller than what you see onscreen in RoTJ. (Where do the pilot's legs even go?)

The pilot's foot is clearly visible in the cutaway, in the section just forward of where the pilot's hand is visible, which is just down and right from the pilot's head in the cutaway picture.

Owwwwww that is a tight fit. That's worse than a Mercury - more like an F1. But, it's just a non-canon cutaway now.

I'm quite happy that cannon says the are larger. The small size didn't make any sense to me and still be able to carry all that ordnance. The larger ones we get from FFG are perfect.

So that's one way to take down An Immobilizer! WTG Kanan, Rex, Chopper and Ezra!

So that's one way to take down An Immobilizer! WTG Kanan, Rex, Chopper and Ezra!

BLARG.

Spoilers.

BLARG.

It was a good episode. I liked that they added a New imperial Character instead of using that clone officer guy.

Today's episode was **** good.

I think it also has the funniest take on the idea of the stormtrooper helmets being counterproductive.

The commander in charge of the ship reminded me of the protagonist of the monkey island games.

Today's episode was **** good.

I think it also has the funniest take on the idea of the stormtrooper helmets being counterproductive.

The commander in charge of the ship reminded me of the protagonist of the monkey island games.

Huh, yeah I can kinda' see it.

I don't think everyone in the Empire was evil but the upper ranks were rotten as could be and in an Empire if the upper ranks are rotten so is the organization.

The Empire was pretty much a textbook example of a terrorist state with the Death Stars as ultimate proof of that point.

The Empire was totalitarian and had fascist leanings. The armed forces were meant to evoke nazis as well. The Death Star was equivalent of a country nuking its own citizens. Reign of terror fits nicely with the description of Palpatine and his government.

Anyone who worked for the empire but was aware of the more awful things happening couldn't be too moral if they just went about their lives as normal. Not evil exactly but certainly. OT good. Signing up to fight and even die to restore freedom meant the rebels were definately the good guys.

Of course I love TIE Fighter and relished the chance to 'defend the empire' and fly beside Vader and the Emperor. 'Good' times. Sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy. But just play.

So, uh, Chopper totally tried to kill Ezra.

Still, good episode. Loved how Ezra's sarcastic answer has been recorded and is part of his alias'. Liked how Kanan started to accept Rex. And of course, love the implications of Ezra being Kanan and Hera's kid.

Liked some of the new character designs we got. That beige uniform for Imperial Gunners. And a new Rebel trooper.

Today's episode was **** good.

I think it also has the funniest take on the idea of the stormtrooper helmets being counterproductive.

The commander in charge of the ship reminded me of the protagonist of the monkey island games.

Next time our Star Wars RPG group gets together I'm going to have to remember that "I pull, you shoot" trick.

I will admit, Season 2 has been full of more camp than the latter half of season 1.

That's kinda typical... The light fluffy stuff helps to reset the tone after the more serious stuff at the end of a season, and then the 2nd half can start to have more drama.

I mean think about it. If season 2 started with the same tone as Siege of Lothal and went from there... By season 3 or so we'd be watching Star Wars: A Clockwork Orange.

Now that's a show I'd watch. Or one named "Rebels" that was written and directed by Quentin Tarantino...

Everything about this episode rocked.

The Imperial Interdictor. Canon at last. And called an Interdictor again rather than an Immobilizer. Suck it TIE Punishers.

Imperial Engineers with sidearms. Makes me want to go play Dark Forces right now.

Admiral Brom Titus was a cool new Imperial character.

And plenty of awesome firefights. "Pull and shoot" was indeed great.

"How is it the Empire keeps letting us steal these things?"

I really like how much of a main character chopper is becoming. He has been crucial for the past two episodes.

I don't think everyone in the Empire was evil but the upper ranks were rotten as could be and in an Empire if the upper ranks are rotten so is the organization.

The Empire was pretty much a textbook example of a terrorist state with the Death Stars as ultimate proof of that point.

The Empire was totalitarian and had fascist leanings. The armed forces were meant to evoke nazis as well. The Death Star was equivalent of a country nuking its own citizens. Reign of terror fits nicely with the description of Palpatine and his government.

Anyone who worked for the empire but was aware of the more awful things happening couldn't be too moral if they just went about their lives as normal. Not evil exactly but certainly. OT good. Signing up to fight and even die to restore freedom meant the rebels were definately the good guys.

Of course I love TIE Fighter and relished the chance to 'defend the empire' and fly beside Vader and the Emperor. 'Good' times. Sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy. But just play.

My few Imperial characters who are active during the OT era usually see the Empire as flawed but believe the flaws could be fixed if the rebels weren't mucking up the works, and usually have some kind of grudge against the Alliance. (One example lost his father to CIS holdouts when he was a teenager, and joined the Imperial Navy a copule of years after the Empire was founded spent and most of his career until the OT in convoy escort and anti-pirate postings. A few months before ANH his mother, who was a civilian engineer working for SFS, was killed during a rebel raid on the R&D complex she worked at. o why he was horrified by Alderaan Tarkin dying and his anger towards the Alliance squashed any thoughts he had of defecting or resigning.)

My character who helped found an extremely AU version of the Empire where Palpatine conquered the Republic rather then being declared Emperor by the Senate was pretty much convinced no government could be worse then the Republic by events that occurred prior to the Empire's founding.

Everything about this episode rocked.

The Imperial Interdictor. Canon at last. And called an Interdictor again rather than an Immobilizer. Suck it TIE Punishers.

The Immoblizer 418 was canon long before this episode came out. It appeared in Tarkin, along with pretty much every other GCW era or early Imperial era Interdictor class, and again in Heir to the Jedi.

The first time the class appeared in canon it was referred to as an Immoblizer 418 Interdictor Cruiser.

Interdictor cruiser is a type like Escort Frigate or Star Destroyer not a class name.

Now if only we can get solid confirmation that the Nebulon B frigate is used for Imperial convoy escorts and patrols...

Now if only we can get solid confirmation that the Nebulon B frigate is used for Imperial convoy escorts and patrols...

Haven't seen an imperial cr-90 yet either.

I hope the Nebulon B is a design dating from the clone wars or older and it's an old cargo hauler that was converted by the rebels. It has a lot more in common with the Seperatists capital ships than anything the empire ever flew. I never liked the idea of the empire losing so many of one class of ship but it never being mentioned once before WEG decided to 'make it so'.