2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

No worries.

indeed, Phantom II is not at Scarif ?

But maybe the Phantom III was.

Bam

A thought from last week's episode...

Does Wedge know that Kanan and Ezra have the force? I'd love to hear his chat with F'luke after the Death Star attack if so....

7 minutes ago, Larky Bobble said:

A thought from last week's episode...

Does Wedge know that Kanan and Ezra have the force? I'd love to hear his chat with F'luke after the Death Star attack if so....

Except we never heard of them from Luke at any point. There being other jedi so recently would be dialogue pertinent to be said onscreen, especially in Empire with Yoda. Therefore most of the Rebellion most likely doesnt know that they have jedi fighting for them which is actually exceptionally strange as a real rebellion would use jedi allies as a claim to legitimacy.

1 minute ago, Forresto said:

Except we never heard of them from Luke at any point. There being other jedi so recently would be dialogue pertinent to be said onscreen, especially in Empire with Yoda. Therefore most of the Rebellion most likely doesnt know that they have jedi fighting for them which is actually exceptionally strange as a real rebellion would use jedi allies as a claim to legitimacy.

I am pretty sure Rex knows they are Jedi, and Rex seems to be involved with the Rebels quite a lot. I find it really hard to believe that he has not told anyone there that Kanan and Ezra reflect incoming fire with lightsabers and use all kind of Jedi tricks.

I believe the Rebels production team thinks that if Lucas could get away with huge plot holes (why does Leia remember Padme? Why doesn't R2 tell Luke about his extensive war duty along with Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker? ...) so can they.

Were the two comedic relief stormtroopers in Flight of the Defender Tag & Bink?

We know they're going to be in the Han Solo movie, and the pic we have is of them in black officer uniforms which is in line with the Stormtrooper corps.

Loved Thrawn going all Patton on the Defender shooting at it with his pistol. Also loved that he used this as an opportunity to see the Defender in combat.

However why is everything so easy for Sabine. She is actually a Mary Sue, and it upsets me i've finally had to use that term as I find it generally used unnecessarily to diminish strong female characters.

1 hour ago, Forresto said:

However why is everything so easy for Sabine. She is actually a Mary Sue, and it upsets me i've finally had to use that term as I find it generally used unnecessarily to diminish strong female characters.

To be fair, everything is really easy for the entire cast of Rebels . Heck, even rag-tag orphans can blow up a Gozanti with some cargo boxes on their freighter. That's the nature of a kids' cartoon. And, really, Thrawn has always been quite possible the biggest Mary Sue of Star Wars. The pure brilliance, smartest guy in the room, seventy-nine steps ahead, omniscient, expert fighter who would never ever fail if it weren't for the incompetents that surround him. This was no less true in the Zahn trilogy, and I've always wondered why he's such a fan favorite. He just read like the ultimate Mary Sue villain to me.

Thrawn does come to erroneous conclusions on occasion, underestimate his enemies, etc. He's popular because he calls out the mistakes other Imperials have made in the past - and makes it clear that he won't make the same mistakes.

22 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

To be fair, everything is really easy for the entire cast of Rebels . Heck, even rag-tag orphans can blow up a Gozanti with some cargo boxes on their freighter. That's the nature of a kids' cartoon. And, really, Thrawn has always been quite possible the biggest Mary Sue of Star Wars. The pure brilliance, smartest guy in the room, seventy-nine steps ahead, omniscient, expert fighter who would never ever fail if it weren't for the incompetents that surround him. This was no less true in the Zahn trilogy, and I've always wondered why he's such a fan favorite. He just read like the ultimate Mary Sue villain to me.

In the Zahn trilogy he makes tons of mistakes such as his arrogant presumptions on the Noghri and smugglers and the underworld in general which both lead to his defeat.

I agree he is totally a Mary Sue in Rebels but its almost necessary to create some power balance between our unbeatable protagonists and the Empire.

On 10/25/2017 at 1:20 PM, Pooleman said:

I don’t like comic relief in any Star Wars.

I have bad news for you. About A New Hope.

3 hours ago, Azrapse said:

why does Leia remember Padme?

Why doesn't R2 tell Luke about his extensive war duty along with Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker?

1) Yeah, but Leia doesn't remember her real mother. ' Just...images, really. Feelings. ' Early childhood memories are incredibly unreliable, and having grown up in a family that was close to her mother, she was likely always surrounded by pictures and recordings (holograms, even) of her.

2) Why doesn't your computer tell you the right move to make when playing X-Wing on it via VASSAL? I mean, it could , it certainly has the computational power to do that and historical data to analyze. Indeed, if you programmed it to do so it might be very good at that. It's not going to spontaneously volunteer that information, though, because it's not programmed to do so. R2 (and any astromech droid, generally) is much more like a computer than the protocol droids. Indeed, that's why everyone acts surprised whenever R2 does do something that seems spontaneous - because it's odd for an astromech to do that! (And in any case, the intended back story way back in the 80s was that the entire Star Wars story is actually being retold by R2 - that's why it basically picks up where he enters the scene, and he's been in, and will be in, every movie. At some point, apparently, someone - a 'Guardian of the Whills' as intended originally - figures out that maybe this droid has seen or heard a thing or two and finally does ask him for the details he has.)

22 minutes ago, xanderf said:

1) Yeah, but Leia doesn't remember her real mother. ' Just...images, really. Feelings. ' Early childhood memories are incredibly unreliable, and having grown up in a family that was close to her mother, she was likely always surrounded by pictures and recordings (holograms, even) of her.

2) Why doesn't your computer tell you the right move to make when playing X-Wing on it via VASSAL? I mean, it could , it certainly has the computational power to do that and historical data to analyze. Indeed, if you programmed it to do so it might be very good at that. It's not going to spontaneously volunteer that information, though, because it's not programmed to do so. R2 (and any astromech droid, generally) is much more like a computer than the protocol droids. Indeed, that's why everyone acts surprised whenever R2 does do something that seems spontaneous - because it's odd for an astromech to do that! (And in any case, the intended back story way back in the 80s was that the entire Star Wars story is actually being retold by R2 - that's why it basically picks up where he enters the scene, and he's been in, and will be in, every movie. At some point, apparently, someone - a 'Guardian of the Whills' as intended originally - figures out that maybe this droid has seen or heard a thing or two and finally does ask him for the details he has.)

Also in legends Bail Organas 1st wife died when Leia was like 2 or 3, so it's possible that's the mother she remembers and she's not even thinking of Padme at the time. *shrugs*

it would be a simple retcon really.

17 hours ago, flyboymb said:

Additionally, I do want to add a few things on armor coming from the medical side of the US Army. On the ability to keep on fighting after being hit, I had a buddy that used to be a Corpsman with the Navy who was stuck in with the Marines in Iraq. He had one grunt run out of cover, get shot in the chest by 7.62 mm, and scramble back into cover. The Marine had him help switch out the back and front plates of his armor, went out the same way, and was promptly shot in the chest again. He scrambled back into cover, took the back plate out of the Corpsman's vest, and figured third time was a charm before taking a third round to the chest and finally deciding that maybe he ought just wait it out for a bit.

I had a buddy who was in Desert Storm, and he told me his story of getting shot while wearing body armor. Sort version: he didn't get back up for a while.

So either vests have gotten better (plausible!) Iraqi bullets have gotten worse.

53 minutes ago, xanderf said:

1) Yeah, but Leia doesn't remember her real mother. ' Just...images, really. Feelings. ' Early childhood memories are incredibly unreliable, and having grown up in a family that was close to her mother, she was likely always surrounded by pictures and recordings (holograms, even) of her.

2) Why doesn't your computer tell you the right move to make when playing X-Wing on it via VASSAL? I mean, it could , it certainly has the computational power to do that and historical data to analyze. Indeed, if you programmed it to do so it might be very good at that. It's not going to spontaneously volunteer that information, though, because it's not programmed to do so. R2 (and any astromech droid, generally) is much more like a computer than the protocol droids. Indeed, that's why everyone acts surprised whenever R2 does do something that seems spontaneous - because it's odd for an astromech to do that! (And in any case, the intended back story way back in the 80s was that the entire Star Wars story is actually being retold by R2 - that's why it basically picks up where he enters the scene, and he's been in, and will be in, every movie. At some point, apparently, someone - a 'Guardian of the Whills' as intended originally - figures out that maybe this droid has seen or heard a thing or two and finally does ask him for the details he has.)

I never got the impression that R2 (or even astromechs in general) had any less personality or individuality than protocol droids. Indeed, in some ways they actually show more, in my opinion (just look at the way R2 manipulated Luke into taking off his restraining bolt). Now, being made for astronavigation rather than for human-cyborg relationships does mean they may value things a bit differently and see the information from a different perspective (and won't simply chat about things on the off chance you'll find them interesting), but I think R2 not sharing the data would have more to do with not really thinking about it much himself rather than because he can't do anything unless asked.

I'm more curious as to why he doesn't fly around anymore, or soak people in oil and then light them on fire.

Also at the end of Revenge of the Sith, Bail Organa instructs someone to take the droids (R2 and 3P0) and have their memories wiped. So neither would be able to tell Luke or anyone else what they know about the Clone Wars era

14 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

I'm more curious as to why he doesn't fly around anymore, or soak people in oil and then light them on fire.

This! Flying astromechs, Chopper included, is about the stupidest thing that came from the Prequels, other than Jar Jar!

14 minutes ago, darkjawa103 said:

Also at the end of Revenge of the Sith, Bail Organa instructs someone to take the droids (R2 and 3P0) and have their memories wiped. So neither would be able to tell Luke or anyone else what they know about the Clone Wars era

I thought he said, "...and have the protocol droid's memory wiped," or something like that. I remember thinking the implication was that R2 wasn't included.

5 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

But maybe the Phantom III was.

Bam

Nothing was docked to The Ghost.

1 hour ago, Forresto said:

In the Zahn trilogy he makes tons of mistakes such as his arrogant presumptions on the Noghri and smugglers and the underworld in general which both lead to his defeat.

I agree he is totally a Mary Sue in Rebels but its almost necessary to create some power balance between our unbeatable protagonists and the Empire.

You guys really have no clue what Mary Sue / Gary Stu actually means.

YouTube has just confirmed that Hera, Chopper and the Ghost survived scarrif and were with the rebels on Endor post RotJ. All be it with no phantom docked.

1 hour ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Nothing was docked to The Ghost.

You guys really have no clue what Mary Sue / Gary Stu actually means.

Only in the sense that neither are fan fiction then you are correct neither are, but short of that yes Sabine really is. Rey on the other hand (and for the record) is not in my opinion.

I can bold too

1 hour ago, Arterial Spray said:

YouTube has just confirmed that Hera, Chopper and the Ghost survived scarrif and were with the rebels on Endor post RotJ. All be it with no phantom docked.

Discussed a bit, above, yeah.

Canon confirmation Ewoks eat Imperials!

Also never believe Han would say that

29 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Canon confirmation Ewoks eat Imperials!

Also never believe Han would say that

That's been canon for years!

They tried to eat our main heroes!

What do you think all those storm trooper helmets at end were up there for? Because Yub Nub always wanted a plastoid drum kit?

37 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

That's been canon for years!

They tried to eat our main heroes!

What do you think all those storm trooper helmets at end were up there for? Because Yub Nub always wanted a plastoid drum kit?

Those are no ordinary teddy bears! They've got huge, sharp...eh... They can leap about... Look at the bones!

Good thing the Empire didn't have a Holy Hand Grenade.

24 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Those are no ordinary teddy bears! They've got huge, sharp...eh... They can leap about... Look at the bones!

Good thing the Empire didn't have a Holy Hand Grenade.

Which one though? The holy hand grenade of Jerusalem or Antioch?

7 hours ago, Forresto said:

Were the two comedic relief stormtroopers in Flight of the Defender Tag & Bink?

We know they're going to be in the Han Solo movie, and the pic we have is of them in black officer uniforms which is in line with the Stormtrooper corps.

Loved Thrawn going all Patton on the Defender shooting at it with his pistol. Also loved that he used this as an opportunity to see the Defender in combat.

However why is everything so easy for Sabine. She is actually a Mary Sue, and it upsets me i've finally had to use that term as I find it generally used unnecessarily to diminish strong female characters.

I haven't seen todays(yesterdays?, i have no idea when this show actually comes on but i d/l it monday nights) but I agree. I like strong female characters(Hamilton, Weaver, Rodriguez) but sabine's stuff frequently draws into the "i...don't think so" area. but I don't hate that about her anymore than i do with Esra, both are a little too lucky a lot of the time.