STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

7 hours ago, Pooleman said:

I made it 3 episodes and had to bail. Gag reflex was too strong, sadly.

Season one of clone wars was also equally cringe worthy as a whole but had some gems in it as well. Rebels is no different. My personal recommendation is to watch the season one finale, season two opener(part 1 with the space battle) season 2 finale, and every thrawn episode in season 3.

Yea Rebels would have benefitted a lot from having the budget of The Clone Wars, as well as being on cartoon network to be a bit more violent/dark at times.

I also wish they had stylized the characters only like they did with TCW. I still can't get used to those super boxy/squatty tie fighters for example. Both them and stormtroopers come off as cute more than menacing I find.

I will say that the storytelling on Rebels is more consistent than TCW. TCW had higher highs (ex: almost any arc about clones or jedi philosophy), but also lower lows (ex: the all droid covert team).

16 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Yeah, it is as ridiculous as shooting lightning out of your hands..

No. Shooting lightning out of your hands is metal as ****. Playing helicopter-**** with your laser sword is lame.

2 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

My personal recommendation is to watch the season one finale, season two opener(part 1 with the space battle) season 2 finale, and every thrawn episode in season 3.

Rebels grows the beard once Tarkin shows up in episode 13.

Edited by DarthEnderX

Finally downloaded episodes 1-4 of the new series so shall be watching them later! I'm half tempted to binge from the beginning again, by the time i get to the current episodes I can binge all of season 4 lol

13 hours ago, markcsoul said:

Yea Rebels would have benefitted a lot from having the budget of The Clone Wars, as well as being on cartoon network to be a bit more violent/dark at times.

I also wish they had stylized the characters only like they did with TCW. I still can't get used to those super boxy/squatty tie fighters for example. Both them and stormtroopers come off as cute more than menacing I find.

I will say that the storytelling on Rebels is more consistent than TCW. TCW had higher highs (ex: almost any arc about clones or jedi philosophy), but also lower lows (ex: the all droid covert team).

Somebody hasn't kept up with Cartoon Network in 2017.

13 hours ago, markcsoul said:

Yea Rebels would have benefitted a lot from having the budget of The Clone Wars, as well as being on cartoon network to be a bit more violent/dark at times.

I also wish they had stylized the characters only like they did with TCW. I still can't get used to those super boxy/squatty tie fighters for example. Both them and stormtroopers come off as cute more than menacing I find.

I will say that the storytelling on Rebels is more consistent than TCW. TCW had higher highs (ex: almost any arc about clones or jedi philosophy), but also lower lows (ex: the all droid covert team).

Visual style is meant to look like a Ralph McQuarrie painting, and it pulls that off extremely well.

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On 24/10/2017 at 2:10 AM, xanderf said:

Now, the question is...would it be Rebel faction? Or Scum? Because both Saw and Mon Mothma have been pretty clear, consistently, that they are not on the same side .

That's a big question. But remember that most S&V characters are not on the same side either . Still, they make a faction.

I hope Saw is released Rebel (and has illicit). If he gets a S&V dial too, even better!

On 24/10/2017 at 5:46 PM, DarthEnderX said:

I feel like, for Rebels at least, they are. They aren't going to "free" Mandalore while the GCW is going on. And with this being the last season, there's no real reason to revisit it.

Sabine going back to the Spectres tells me that the Mandalore plotline is over.

Good!

BTW, because I love Thrawn, I hope he is out of this season too.

But I hope Krennic shows up soon. Maybe he could be the big bad? (wishful thinking) Bah, the Rogue One tie-in probably ends with this episode. It's a shame - the writers actually did a good job in the last couple of episodes (but they need to stop making Light Cruisers explode with a few shots).

On 25/10/2017 at 11:50 AM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Yeah, it is as ridiculous as shooting lightning out of your hands..

It's more ridiculous, actually.

57 minutes ago, Odanan said:

That's a big question. But remember that most S&V characters are not on the same side either . Still, they make a faction.

I hope Saw is released Rebel (and has illicit). If he gets a S&V dial too, even better!

This. In fact Hutts and Black Sun are almost explicitly enemies.

Saw is still a Rebel, even if he doesn't get along with other Rebels.

2 hours ago, Odanan said:

Good!

BTW, because I love Thrawn, I hope he is out of this season too.

But I hope Krennic shows up soon. Maybe he could be the big bad? (wishful thinking) Bah, the Rogue One tie-in probably ends with this episode. It's a shame - the writers actually did a good job in the last couple of episodes (but they need to stop making Light Cruisers explode with a few shots).

I have bad, bad news for you. Thrawn is in the next episode, and guess what other character is confirmed for this season?

Rukh.

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I have bad, bad news for you. Thrawn is in the next episode, and guess what other character is confirmed for this season?

Rukh.

They're just setting him up now so he's there when they do Heir To The Empire later.

...I'm sure that's it...

3 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

They're just setting him up now so he's there when they do Heir To The Empire later.

...I'm sure that's it...

Well Timothy Zahn got a contract for a 2nd thrawn novel so the likelihood of thrawn or rukh dying this season is small.

Star Wars canon in the past 12 months has had an interesting way of portraying the morality of the Rebel Alliance and the competency of their leaders. In Rogue One, the main characters are told not to do the thing, then they disobey orders to do the thing and that's the only reason the Alliance get the plans. Now in Rebels Ezra and Sabine were told by Mon Mothma not to do a thing with Saw, but they do the thing and rescue a whole bunch of civilian scientists who then join the Rebellion.

8 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

This. In fact Hutts and Black Sun are almost explicitly enemies.

Saw is still a Rebel, even if he doesn't get along with other Rebels.

Scum has tons of ‘sun-factions’, just not officially:

Hutts

Black Sun

Mados

Pirates

bounty Hunters

smugglers

independents

probably more than I can think of right now. Sometimes these factions are represented by different pilots on the same ship.

Some might need a bit of refluffing. All the Starviper generic pilots are Black Sun, for example - yet Mandalore and Zann Consortium used them. You could describe the "Black Sun Assassin" as "Zann Consortium Assassin" if you wanted to invoke EU fluff without changing actual rules.

8 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I have bad, bad news for you. Thrawn is in the next episode, and guess what other character is confirmed for this season?

Rukh.

Oh boy.

:(

2 hours ago, GreenLantern1138 said:

Star Wars canon in the past 12 months has had an interesting way of portraying the morality of the Rebel Alliance and the competency of their leaders. In Rogue One, the main characters are told not to do the thing, then they disobey orders to do the thing and that's the only reason the Alliance get the plans. Now in Rebels Ezra and Sabine were told by Mon Mothma not to do a thing with Saw, but they do the thing and rescue a whole bunch of civilian scientists who then join the Rebellion.

I like it. Shows that The Rebellion's leaders are not always right.

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I like it. Shows that The Rebellion's leaders are not always right.

Or that they can be right morally, in general, but wrong practically, in a few specific instances.

It's made clear that Ezra is too underwhelmed by Saw (his apparent paranoia, manipulativeness, ruthlessness, etc) by the end, to join him, at least.

Thrawn will only survive for one of three reasons.

1) He survives to help establish the First Order (Captain of the Eclipse at the end of Aftermath: Empire's End perhaps?)

2) He survives to resist the First Order with the Chiss if option 1 is inaccurate.

3) Filoni decides its not his place to kill off Thrawn and allows Timothy Zahn to finish off his own character.

30 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Thrawn will only survive for one of three reasons.

1) He survives to help establish the First Order (Captain of the Eclipse at the end of Aftermath: Empire's End perhaps?)

2) He survives to resist the First Order with the Chiss if option 1 is inaccurate.

3) Filoni decides its not his place to kill off Thrawn and allows Timothy Zahn to finish off his own character.

I doubt Thrawn will help with the first Order. He has, and is willing to send worthy assets back to Chiss Space, Eli Vanto for example, plus, he relies too much on creativity - something the First Order cares little for.

His true loyalties lie with the Chiss and who they are fighting, the Empire is a means to an end for him.

3 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I doubt Thrawn will help with the first Order. He has, and is willing to send worthy assets back to Chiss Space, Eli Vanto for example, plus, he relies too much on creativity - something the First Order cares little for.

His true loyalties lie with the Chiss and who they are fighting, the Empire is a means to an end for him.

In a sense, the Empire of the Hand was the Legends version of the First Order - just a little bit nicer.

We'll have to wait and see if they make any kind of connection between the Chiss and the First Order in the newcanon. Given that they're expanding in the Unknown Regions, from Aftermath to TFA (without the Republic knowing) it seems likely that Chiss with have some kind of connection - either as its first major component, or its first major victim .

7 hours ago, Ironlord said:

In a sense, the Empire of the Hand was the Legends version of the First Order - just a little bit nicer.

We'll have to wait and see if they make any kind of connection between the Chiss and the First Order in the newcanon. Given that they're expanding in the Unknown Regions, from Aftermath to TFA (without the Republic knowing) it seems likely that Chiss with have some kind of connection - either as its first major component, or its first major victim .

My ultimate fan produced version of Episode 8, would have Thrawn come from out of Chiss space with a fleet of Star Destroyers to save the New Republic from certain doom at the hands of the First Order. He would deploy Tie Defenders and Chiss Clawcraft to aid the Resistance against the Tie Fighters and Tie Special Forces of the First Order. He would kick the First Order's butt and save the Resistance. After the First Order makes a hasty retreat, Thrawn would come on board Leia's flag ship and discuss why he came to their aid. Something about Snoke being a menace to the Galaxy and needing to be stopped. It would be awesome. He could even have his force salamanders from the old novels to protect him from Luke, Rey, Snoke, Kylo, etc. I know it's wishful thinking, but I can dream.

Alright just finished S4 E3 and it was a lot better than the first two.

but it doesn't compare to Stranger Things!

:P