Some are saying Thrawn will get transferred or something after beating the Rebels. This is why I have a feeling Thrawn is going to die. Thrawn is a complete victory guy. If he got transferred, I have a feeling it wouldn't be his decision, but Tarkin or Palpatine. I really don't want him to die.
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14 minutes ago, Sir Orrin said:Some are saying Thrawn will get transferred or something after beating the Rebels. This is why I have a feeling Thrawn is going to die. Thrawn is a complete victory guy. If he got transferred, I have a feeling it wouldn't be his decision, but Tarkin or Palpatine. I really don't want him to die.
Well, TCW was rumored to have some Vong stuff in the pipeline, he might be called upon to fight a similar extra-galatical threat. Or not, because that really doesn't fit with TFA anymore, but who knows, there might be a way to make it work.
1 minute ago, Admiral Deathrain said:Well, TCW was rumored to have some Vong stuff in the pipeline, he might be called upon to fight a similar extra-galatical threat. Or not, because that really doesn't fit with TFA anymore, but who knows, there might be a way to make it work.
Someone mentioned earlier that he could be transferred because someone else is trying to undermine him, like constantine or even Tarkin. I think this is unlikely, but possible.
1 minute ago, Sir Orrin said:Someone mentioned earlier that he could be transferred because someone else is trying to undermine him, like constantine or even Tarkin. I think this is unlikely, but possible.
I could imagine one scenario: according to the preview, the army at Lothal is leading the attack, meaning that Lothal is unguarded. I could imagine that the Rebels, unable to evacuate the whole base, could send a small team to Lothal to capture a few Tie Defenders. These could be used to help some Rebels escape. The loss of the factory or the theft of Imperial technology secrets could be enough to put a black mark on Thrawn's record, even if he wins the confrontation.
1 minute ago, dotswarlock said:I could imagine one scenario: according to the preview, the army at Lothal is leading the attack, meaning that Lothal is unguarded. I could imagine that the Rebels, unable to evacuate the whole base, could send a small team to Lothal to capture a few Tie Defenders. These could be used to help some Rebels escape. The loss of the factory or the theft of Imperial technology secrets could be enough to put a black mark on Thrawn's record, even if he wins the confrontation.
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USA today released an excerpt from the upcoming Thrawn novel.
Thrawn talks to Palp about a big bad threat to the Chiss that could also threaten the Empire. My money is on Thrawn leaving the Outer Rim to deal with those threats.
If it is the Vong, I hope Story Group can manage it in a way that doesn't suck. I'm not the only Star Wars fan that quit the EU when the Vong showed up. I've heard an earlier concept for the Vong intended them as exiled Sith instead of the garbage we got. I could get on board with the exiled Sith story, especially if it leads to Snoke.
6 minutes ago, jmswood said:USA today released an excerpt from the upcoming Thrawn novel.
Thrawn talks to Palp about a big bad threat to the Chiss that could also threaten the Empire. My money is on Thrawn leaving the Outer Rim to deal with those threats.
If it is the Vong, I hope Story Group can manage it in a way that doesn't suck. I'm not the only Star Wars fan that quit the EU when the Vong showed up. I've heard an earlier concept for the Vong intended them as exiled Sith instead of the garbage we got. I could get on board with the exiled Sith story, especially if it leads to Snoke.
oooooh I'm excited now!
19 minutes ago, Sir Orrin said:Someone mentioned earlier that he could be transferred because someone else is trying to undermine him, like constantine or even Tarkin. I think this is unlikely, but possible.
Tarkin is the kind of person who could get to take extreme measures if he thinks that someone is close to becoming a threat in the power structure of the Empire. Like nuking one of the most important data facilities of the Empire just to to get rid of a rival.
1 hour ago, jmswood said:If it is the Vong, I hope Story Group can manage it in a way that doesn't suck. I'm not the only Star Wars fan that quit the EU when the Vong showed up. I've heard an earlier concept for the Vong intended them as exiled Sith instead of the garbage we got. I could get on board with the exiled Sith story, especially if it leads to Snoke.
I also dropped out of the EU when the Vong appeared. But something tying an extra-galactic faction to Snoke would actually work really well for me. Aftermath also strongly hinted that there was some sort of source of Darkside power beyond the known galaxy. Joining Rebels into eventual revelations about Snoke in Eps 8 and/or 9 would make a lot of sense.
Timothy Zahn, the creator of Thrawn, is one of the authors of "The Darkstryder Campaign". A RPG campaign (the best of the old SW game for me) based precisely in a Imperial Moff who goes rogue and disappear in the outer reaches of the galaxy chasing a misterious alien power.
Snoke = Vong confirmed!
But I don't think that Thrawn failing to think about defendin Lothal would be a great way to demote him, it doesn't seem right for a tactical genious to not think about something like that.
But I do believe and hope that he goes into the Unknown Regions to fight whatever Threats (A bunch of Snokes) is waiting there
3 hours ago, Sir Orrin said:If you are discrediteed for the loss of a star Destroyer, Govenor Price and Kallus should've been demoted by now.
Consistency is not the name of the game in Star Wars, but yes. I was thinking more along the lines of 'He was constantly letting Rebel agents sabotage our assets so he could trap them, then he fails at even that! AND he loses us MORE Star Destroyers!"
13 hours ago, Forresto said:I sort've feel Zeb and Sabine's arcs are pretty well done to point now if either died the show would not be worse off for them dying. I like both characters a bunch but lets be honest they're expendable at this point.
They could get new arcs. Zeb I think really deserves more for sure, and more Mando stuff is interesting.
27 minutes ago, Ghost XV15 said:Snoke = Vong confirmed!
But I don't think that Thrawn failing to think about defendin Lothal would be a great way to demote him, it doesn't seem right for a tactical genious to not think about something like that.
But I do believe and hope that he goes into the Unknown Regions to fight whatever Threats (A bunch of Snokes) is waiting there
Mace Windu was a Vong = Confirmed!!
15 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:Nah, it's going to be the exact opposite. The Rebel fleet is going to get decimated, to the point where the highly successful Thrawn is going to be too valuable to keep in charge of mopping up what remains in Season 4. The job will fall to lesser officers and bounty hunters.
This is my hope (and expectation) as well.
I expect we'll see the rebel fleet get trounced. There will be survivors, of course, including most of the Ghost crew and the other key/named figures who carry on into later stories/movies, but I expect the Empire will have every reason to believe that all that's left to do is a bunch of scattered mop-up actions, which will be done by lesser officers. (Which, of course, is how the Rebellion can be rebuilt.)
The cherry would be Thrawn getting a promotion out of it - he's not a Grand Admiral yet, right?
I would like to see anyone not a member of the Ghost's crew (I include Rex in the Fhost's crew) or in a subsequent movie taken out by Thrawn's assault and Chopper base annihilated. Without serious setbacks for our protagonists the story becomes stale. Rebels has managed this well so far, but with how far the stakes have been raised this season something absolutely cataclysmic for the Alliance is necessary to set up the story to run into Rogue One.
49 minutes ago, NotBatman said:The cherry would be Thrawn getting a promotion out of it - he's not a Grand Admiral yet, right?
Congratulations! You have been promoted, and as a reward and show of consideration, and as prize, a new destiny awaits you in the outer reaches of the galaxy, a glorious mission (and absolutely impossible and mostly lethal)... Far far away, where you won't be a threat to my ambitions (and where I hope you die forgotten by all).
Nullification by overpromotion, sounds like a strategy for the Imperial kind (as killing liberty with a thunderous applause).
Edited by Draconis HegemoniaThe Empire is absolutely a "fail upwards" kind of organization. The only problem is that the ceiling is covered with giant spikes in the form of Vader.
3 hours ago, codegnave said:Consistency is not the name of the game in Star Wars, but yes. I was thinking more along the lines of 'He was constantly letting Rebel agents sabotage our assets so he could trap them, then he fails at even that! AND he loses us MORE Star Destroyers!"
They could get new arcs. Zeb I think really deserves more for sure, and more Mando stuff is interesting.
Im not saying they dont but part of feeling the loss of a character and making it impactful to the story is that now all of the cool stuff they could have done won't happen.
Any character can persist forever as long as the writers want it that way. Im just saying both have been developed enough and are at comfy spots in their arcs that losing them wont really upset the balance of the show.
1) Thrawn shall survive to go to the Outer Regions. Maybe to find out about the hidden theat?
2) How nice would a season 4 episode be where Thrawn and Vader meet again?
3) I expect Sato to go. After exchanging thinly contempted remarks with Thrawn in a previous episode and seeing the triangle carrier explode, Sato is the enemy Thrawn is going to beat.
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It wouldn't be a 'Thrawn' arc if he wasn't betrayed in the end, at the moment of victory, by a source totally unsuspected to him.
Thrawn is only in this sector because Governor Pryce requested him.
The battle at the nebula should have been a slam-dunk for the Empire, and only failed because Governor Pryce took personal command of it, and jumped the Star Destroyers out too close to the nebula.
The episode where Kallus is discovered has, as part of his attempt at hiding his identity, Governor Pryce passingly accused of being the double agent. Maybe some misdirection from the production team?
Do we find out in the finale that Pryce's family were among those in the Batonn Sector that Thrawn had recently 'suppressed', and the entire season has been a long play by Pryce to get him exposed and take him out??
38 minutes ago, xanderf said:It wouldn't be a 'Thrawn' arc if he wasn't betrayed in the end, at the moment of victory, by a source totally unsuspected to him.
Why? Because that's the thing that happened in the only other Thrawn arc of note? That's not exactly a pattern.
4 hours ago, NotBatman said:The cherry would be Thrawn getting a promotion out of it - he's not a Grand Admiral yet, right?
Yes he is. They identify him as such in the first episode he gets introduced in, plus, he has the white uniform.
I was kinda disappointed by that actually. I would have preferred that he be just an admiral in rebels and then get promoted to grand admiral later, but they didn't do that.
6 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:Yes he is. They identify him as such in the first episode he gets introduced in, plus, he has the white uniform.
I was kinda disappointed by that actually. I would have preferred that he be just an admiral in rebels and then get promoted to grand admiral later, but they didn't do that.
Alas.
Thanks for the clarification, at least.
1 hour ago, DarthEnderX said:Why? Because that's the thing that happened in the only other Thrawn arc of note? That's not exactly a pattern.
Wait, you never read the old EU book that details his origins, and you call yourself a Thrawn fan?
The EU's up to three acts of treachery that we know about: His adoptive 'family' from his home empire throwing him out of the airlock metaphorically, the political machinations which sent him to the Outer Rim right when the Empire could have used him most, and of course getting stabbed by Rukh.
1 hour ago, Forgottenlore said:Yes he is. They identify him as such in the first episode he gets introduced in, plus, he has the white uniform.
I was kinda disappointed by that actually. I would have preferred that he be just an admiral in rebels and then get promoted to grand admiral later, but they didn't do that.
Sort of supports the argument that he ends up dead, though, doesn't it?
After all, if he was going to survive the series...then, indeed, it would make the most sense to have him come in as just an admiral and have the finale, with the defeat of the Rebel cell, see his promotion to Grand Admiral (and, thus, a promotion that can be used as an explanation to move him off next season). But if he's going to be dead ...