STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

21 minutes ago, aRandomBoardGamingDude said:

I included Greivous - that's why if you don't count the acklay and the mandos in TCW or the Clones in ROTS, Greivous and Maul are the only two living things he's ever killed (they are the only notable things anyway), and that's why I thought statistically he's as good with a blaster and a lightsaber.


Yes, if you don't count the dozens of human beings he killed, those two are the only one. And if you don't count Maul, he only killed Grievous, and if you don't count Grievous, he only kill Maul (one and half times). And if you doesn't count nor Maul nor Grievous... Obi is as harmless as a humble fly and he never does harm to no one (except that thing of amputating his best friend's arms and legs and leaving his burning torso in the lava, without even giving him a merciful death, but we could not count that either...).

so like he only killed two living things that had names

names that the audience knew

1 hour ago, LunarSol said:

What good is there on dwelling on the EU? Do you think he has the ability to tell Disney to bring it back? There are times when its best to grieve and move on and times when you have to push people to do the same.

You say that, but things from the EU get reintroduced all the time.

There's a difference between someone asking "Can you make Legends canon again!"(which I'm not sure anyway does), and asking "Hey, this thing from Legends, is there any chance of seeing it return to the canon?"

14 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

You say that, but things from the EU get reintroduced all the time.

There's a difference between someone asking "Can you make Legends canon again!"(which I'm not sure anyway does), and asking "Hey, this thing from Legends, is there any chance of seeing it return to the canon?"

Don't get me wrong, I loved the EU (up to the Vong) and really enjoy seeing things come back from it. Mara, Kyle and Corran are some of my favorite characters in the franchise and I'm sad that they're becoming increasingly more challenging to return. That's not my point.

My point was in response to how someone has responded to people on twitter, of which, I'd wager, the poorer responses have likely been more aimed at the "Can you make Legends canon again!" kind of questions than the latter. I really have no idea though, as this isn't someone I follow on twitter; I'd just be surprised if we were talking about a situation where someone "please, sir" asked for more porridge and got beat with the ladle in response.

24 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

You say that, but things from the EU get reintroduced all the time.

There's a difference between someone asking "Can you make Legends canon again!"(which I'm not sure anyway does), and asking "Hey, this thing from Legends, is there any chance of seeing it return to the canon?"

There is no point asking either of those questions. If a thing from Legends was to be brought back to canon Pablo wouldn't be allowed to reveal that on his private twitter anyway.

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1 hour ago, arkhamssaber said:

Disney owns the EU though. So why bash it?

I'd assume the bashing was in response to people being upset EU is no longer canon or their favourite EU story is getting discarded.

Both of which are Disney decision somebody in Pablo Hidalgo's position is probably expected to back publicly, regardless of how he feels about it.

Somebody from the Gunboat thread sent Pablo a Twitter with a screenshot of the Gunboat's stat page from the X-Wing Strategy Guide and asking whether there was any chance to bring it back since both the TIE Defender and Delta Class Stormtrooper Transport had been brought back to canon. No rage, no demands, just a simple question.

Guy was promptly blocked from Pablo's Twiitter feed. We discussed the possible reasoning behind this, whether the screenshot was perceived as spam (a stretch), whether he was asking about something that was actually coming down the pipes (why not just confirm or deny rather than block?), or whether the guy was just being a butt.

Thing is, whether he's dealing with irate fans or not, he's still a representative to a company and a face of a rather lucrative industry. If he's letting challenges to his nerd cred or personal feelings allow him to be condescending to fans, then that is bad for business and considering how strict Disney is with the dressed up characters at their parks, I doubt they see Pablo as too important to lose compared to the dollars of fans that he's even potentially angered out of spending their money on the franchise. But this is all speculation as I haven't seen any direct evidence of him acting this way. He likely has all kinds of stipulations placed on what he can and can't and is just playing things safe.

17 minutes ago, LordBlades said:

I'd assume the bashing was in response to people being upset EU is no longer canon or their favourite EU story is getting discarded.

Both of which are Disney decision somebody in Pablo Hidalgo's position is probably expected to back publicly, regardless of how he feels about it.

Again, it's difficult to really single out an individual tweet or quote from him. There's also a right way and a wrong way to back something. His feed for a while was pretty toxic. Apparently some time after I stopped following him he took a break from Twitter and since coming back has had a much better approach. The bridge has been burned though.

2 minutes ago, arkhamssaber said:

The bridge has been burned though.

And let us never forget or try to rebuild it. :rolleyes:

1 hour ago, aRandomBoardGamingDude said:

I included Greivous - that's why if you don't count the acklay and the mandos in TCW or the Clones in ROTS, Greivous and Maul are the only two living things he's ever killed (they are the only notable things anyway), and that's why I thought statistically he's as good with a blaster and a lightsaber.

The logic of this post... what?

"If you don't count the many people he killed, he's basically only killed two people"

Truly the making of great philosophy.

Any chance I could redirect the thread back to Star Wars? Here's my not too subtle attempt:

Another reason why Kenobi might have seemed dismissive of Ezra is this: if Kenobi had thought that a Jedi would have had a chance to defeat Vader through martial prowess then he would have probably gone out and found Ahsoka. Considering how she handled the inquisitors in the previous season then she was vastly more powerful than Kanan or Ezra.

On the subject of Luke's training. I've always had this idea that skilled force users could use the force to enhance teaching and training, sort of a highly specialized, long term application of the mind trick. Allowing for 1 day of actual training to be the equivalent of a week of effort for us mere mortals. I also envision that palpatine was doing something similar to Anakin (for 15 years), applying a constant, subtle pressure on his mind in addition to the more mundane psychological manipulations.

17 minutes ago, Derpzilla88 said:

The logic of this post... what?


If you have no known name and no face (helmet), and there is no blood in your death, then you are nothing more than a senseless droid?
This make easyest to explain the "Luke Genocide" in ep.VI

38 minutes ago, flyboymb said:

Somebody from the Gunboat thread sent Pablo a Twitter with a screenshot of the Gunboat's stat page from the X-Wing Strategy Guide and asking whether there was any chance to bring it back since both the TIE Defender and Delta Class Stormtrooper Transport had been brought back to canon. No rage, no demands, just a simple question.

Guy was promptly blocked from Pablo's Twiitter feed. We discussed the possible reasoning behind this, whether the screenshot was perceived as spam (a stretch), whether he was asking about something that was actually coming down the pipes (why not just confirm or deny rather than block?), or whether the guy was just being a butt.

Thing is, whether he's dealing with irate fans or not, he's still a representative to a company and a face of a rather lucrative industry. If he's letting challenges to his nerd cred or personal feelings allow him to be condescending to fans, then that is bad for business and considering how strict Disney is with the dressed up characters at their parks, I doubt they see Pablo as too important to lose compared to the dollars of fans that he's even potentially angered out of spending their money on the franchise. But this is all speculation as I haven't seen any direct evidence of him acting this way. He likely has all kinds of stipulations placed on what he can and can't and is just playing things safe.

I searched his recent twitter history and there are a couple questions (unanswered) that included photos. So there must have been something offensive in the question the gunboat guy posted. Without seeing the tweet, it's just hearsay that it was deleted and blocked without reason. I'd also wonder how many times previous that guy tweeted the question to Pablo. Maybe it's not the first time, which would then be spam. Point being, Pablo did nothing wrong.

Answering questions like that are probably never going to happen anyway. You can't say no, as the future is fluid. And you can't say yes, either for spoiler reasons or because the story group just doesn't know yet.

24 minutes ago, Draconis Hegemonia said:


If you have no known name and no face (helmet), and there is no blood in your death, then you are nothing more than a senseless droid?
This make easyest to explain the "Luke Genocide" in ep.VI

I don't understand how can anyone twist destroying a planet killer of the evil empire in progress of destroying a planet into something morally ambiguous.

43 minutes ago, Derpzilla88 said:

The logic of this post... what?

"If you don't count the many people he killed, he's basically only killed two people"

Truly the making of great philosophy.

you're seriously questioning the logic of someone overlooking and forgetting about a fictional character's least memorable kills? rofl

has anyone else noticed how much more likeable Ezra has become compared to the first season?

It's almost seems like if he can ever overcome how annoying he was in the first season he might have a prominent role after RotJ.

It bothers me how stupid he is.

13 minutes ago, eMeM said:

I don't understand how can anyone twist destroying a planet killer of the evil empire in progress of destroying a planet into something morally ambiguous.

Even if the act itself is morally justifiable, there's still a lot in blowing up the Death Star that might rattle the guy who did it as he is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of not so bad people.

The average Stromtrooper is completely innocent of Palpatine's machinations and is likely just a regular guy serving in the army of the rightful government. Hell,in many places probably Palpatine is still sen as the guy who saved the Republic from the Separatists so quite a few Imperials might actually be convinced they are doing the right thing.

14 minutes ago, aRandomBoardGamingDude said:

has anyone else noticed how much more likeable Ezra has become compared to the first season?

It's almost seems like if he can ever overcome how annoying he was in the first season he might have a prominent role after RotJ.

Mate, Luke is the last Jedi.
Ezra will not survive up to Episode 4

11 minutes ago, eMeM said:

It bothers me how stupid he is.

but the reason he's so stupid is because the writers feel they need to have him function on the same level as their "target" audience. No matter what there is going to be someone who is that stupid in the Rebels Crew. At least it's sensible to have it be the youngest one, and one that can compensate for that stupidity. Like if I had an associate who could move stuff with his mind it really wouldn't matter how dumb he was

20 minutes ago, aRandomBoardGamingDude said:

has anyone else noticed how much more likeable Ezra has become compared to the first season?

It's almost seems like if he can ever overcome how annoying he was in the first season he might have a prominent role after RotJ.

I think they are showing him maturing as he ages.

18 minutes ago, eMeM said:

It bothers me how stupid he is.

But he's not quite there yet ;)

3 minutes ago, Ghost XV15 said:

Mate, Luke is the last Jedi.
Ezra will not survive up to Episode 4

is it bad that I really hope you are right? Like if you're right, I'm gonna re-watch the first season and then watch the episode he dies in to make it a more rewarding view.

For some reason though I feel like Disney likes Ezra alot more than they should and they think he is important to the target audience? or something. It just seems like Disney wouldn't greenlight scrapping their audience's proxy character at any point in the show. To me that means it's more likely Ezra will die in a comic/video game, and honestly that would not be rewarding.

28 minutes ago, eMeM said:

It bothers me how stupid he is.

I have worked both with and for waaaaaaaaay dumber people. At least Ezra has the excuse of being a kid who doesn't know anything.