What I love most about this episode amongst many other things is that it reinforces and hammers home the point that Luke is the one to destroy the Sith and it sortve makes Ezra seem a bit more ordinary. Ezra is not Luke and he is not a possible alternate for Luke along the lines of Neville Longbottom.

This is something thats really bothered me about the character and the show. I feel better now that the show seems more in line with supporting the OT rather then altering the story to add new characters.

I love how this episode really put everything about Episode 4 in place. It is not 'oh, Ezra died so now we only have Luke'. Luke is already known to be the chosen one, and Ezra and Kanan being in the storyline doesn't detract from that at all.

Obi Wan takes his charge of watching over Luke extremely seriously. Sure, Ezra will tell people, but Obi Wan will never leave. Side note, that kinda kills all my hopes of Ewan doing a Obi Wan movie in the next couple of years

15 minutes ago, Gersun said:

I love how this episode really put everything about Episode 4 in place. It is not 'oh, Ezra died so now we only have Luke'. Luke is already known to be the chosen one, and Ezra and Kanan being in the storyline doesn't detract from that at all.

Obi Wan takes his charge of watching over Luke extremely seriously. Sure, Ezra will tell people, but Obi Wan will never leave. Side note, that kinda kills all my hopes of Ewan doing a Obi Wan movie in the next couple of years

Unless they just set it during the Clone Wars focusing on him rather than too many other characters.

7 hours ago, Gersun said:

Side note, that kinda kills all my hopes of Ewan doing a Obi Wan movie in the next couple of years

They could do a movie of him after Revenge of the Sith.

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

They could do a movie of him after Revenge of the Sith.

I think Gersun meant that it kills his hope because Obi does nothing but watch over Luke.

He has a bit of action here and there, but nothing worth a whole movie about it

Solid.

Looks like Thrawn is going to bring the heat:

2 minutes ago, Ghost XV15 said:

I think Gersun meant that it kills his hope because Obi does nothing but watch over Luke.

He has a bit of action here and there, but nothing worth a whole movie about it

That is precisely what I meant, but now that I think more about it, the more it really does make sense to be a movie. Obi Wan has made a huge transformation since Revenge of the Sith. He is much calmer and meditative, and that would be good character development in a movie. Perhaps the events of the movie would culminate in him becoming the jedi he was in this episode. Less reckless and combative, and more subtle and strategic.

There is so much going on in the campfire scene between him and maul, and 10/10 would love to see how he became such a wise man.

Great episode.

I particularly enjoyed the parallels to Star Wars -- the boy and the droid saved from sand people by a robed man with a light saber; the two splitting up with the R2 unit taking the rockey ground and the biped taking the sandy route; the brief but decisive fight at the end; the reveal of the Lars homestead with the John Williams music. Good way to wrap up a story line.

Edit: There is still room for an Obi-Wan movie. One of the novels I've enjoyed is Kenobi, which is a relatively small story about Obi-Wan arriving on Tatooine and how he comes to accept his mission of watching Luke while having minimal outside contact. It's a Western in style, doesn't really shift the canon at all in any direction, and so would work well adapted into a stand-alone movie.

Isn't the idea that calm, meditative peace is superior to revenge-fueled rage what the entire Light/Dark split is about? Of COURSE Obi-Wan takes down Maul with ease. He defeated him once as a Jedi barely out of training. Now with years of experience and contemplation, it's supposed to be a fair fight?

Here is why im okay with the lightsaber fight from my perspective. This is subjective and anecdotal.

I was part of a Go team once and we had the honor and privilege to play against a player from Japan who is a real master of the game. All of us, about five, played him at the same time and he swiftly crushed each of us with only our teacher holding out a little longer. When you are outclassed you are outclassed.

Not only that but the duel isnt simply about the blades, a lot of the skill involved with this kind of fighting in Star Wars comes down to one's connection to the force. Obi Wan clearly has found oneness, hence him knowing techniques that allow to become a force ghost, with the force whereas Maul has not. At heart Maul was a broken man with only his hatred for Kenobi keeping his already failed engines puttering forward. Of course the highly motivated Obi Wan who had to protect Luke, who was entirely in control of the duel from the begining managed to kill Maul easily.

11 hours ago, Ccwebb said:

I utterly shocked how fast Maul was cut down. However, after rewinding and watching, loved it. A perfect light saber fight.

I certainly wouldn't call it perfect. I much prefer my lightsaber battles to be The Bride Vs. The Crazy 88, as opposed to The Bride Vs. Bill.

But in this INSTANCE, it was perfect.

30 minutes ago, DailyRich said:

Isn't the idea that calm, meditative peace is superior to revenge-fueled rage what the entire Light/Dark split is about?

That is certainly the philosophy that is espoused. But watching the movies, that is almost never the case in practice.

I mean, Luke literally only defeats Vader after being driven into a berserker rage.

I am still squeeing over that lightsabre fight. I agree it was utterly perfect.

12 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

I certainly wouldn't call it perfect. I much prefer my lightsaber battles to be The Bride Vs. The Crazy 88, as opposed to The Bride Vs. Bill.

But in this INSTANCE, it was perfect.

That is certainly the philosophy that is espoused. But watching the movies, that is almost never the case in practice.

I mean, Luke literally only defeats Vader after being driven into a berserker rage.

But only really WINS when he stops and realizes what he's doing and refuses to fight anymore.

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is the Philosophy behind Star Wars

That saber duel was perfect. I didn't enjoy the convoluted way Ezra had to be involved, I think a better episode would have just been Kenobi and Maul, nevertheless it was a fantastic episode as usual.

IMO Disney taking the IP was the absolute best thing to happen to the Star Wars universe since Lucas made ANH.

That duel though! Very Musashi 5 rings, economy of lethal force. One cut was all master Kenobi needed. Brilliant.

This episode cements something that perfectly bridges the glaring difference in the lightsaber fights between the Prequels and the Original Trilogy in a way I didn't realize until right now.

Obi Wan and Yoda in the OT are what the Jedi were always meant to be, mystical and wise and attuned to the force in a deep meditative way. I propose that the original Jedi were like this (I think since most new canon force/jedi stuff we get is more like the OT and it looks like it will continue to be that way in the sequel trilogy and spinoffs, any Old Republic content we get will be done in the OT style of fighting).

The PT jedi are not incongruous with this its just that they are the bloated end result of a millennia of tradition where they are unopposed by any true force user or lightsaber wielder. Of course they are going to fight with these ridiculous maneuvers and styles because lightsaber fighting probably only happened between Jedi and became less about immediately beating your opponent and more about style. The really over the top fights in the prequels predominantly happen between former jedi and jedi reinforcing this point. Even the Palpatine-Windu fight which started off silly became more like the fight in Twin Suns towards the end. The Jedi fell astray of what they were meant to be the mere breadth of their existence.

Obi Wan and Yoda are a product of this era so in the prequels they fight this way. However through Order 66 and their exile they both grow into who they are in the Original Trilogy and clearly both become what a Jedi is really supposed to be. Being a Jedi isnt about your skill necessarily with a blade, its about self control and being at peace with oneself and the force. So the fight in Twin Suns shows that the old ways were again a sort've bastardization of everything. A lightsaber is an extension of one's self so of course the unstable, and lets be honest feeble Maul didnt stand a chance against Obi Wan because unlike sword fighting it really isnt about your ability to parry and strike (it is to a point obviously) but more with how attuned you are to your own existence in relation to the reality of the universe. Obi Wan has matured and grown past the silliness and traditions of what the old order became.

Honestly its for this reason I don't think Ezra will ever truly be Jedi, he's just a person who is more attuned to the force then others and has a lightsaber. That's why Obi Wan dismissed him so quickly. Ezra is sort've like another Anakin.

I agree I think this episode came to the realization that Ezra will not be anyone special. I was hoping for a future where he may end up having a big part but after the way Obi-Wan was like run along clearly made me feel like this Guy (Ezra) won't be as important as I thought.

Ezra: Dead Padawan walking.

The original Star Wars films borrowed heavily from a Japanese samurai film. At some point, George Lucas forgot that and thought lightsaber battles were supposed to be dance-offs. While the story of that episode was just okay, and seemed a bit like an afterthought, the ending was good.

Hopefully this is the last we see of Obi Wan Kenobi. His story is complete, tracking him from his days as a young apprentice, to a Jedi in his own right, a true Jedi Master, and finally to his death and transition to a Force ghost. Any more Obi Wan Kenobi will almost certainly detract from his story. Shoehorning more excitement and adventure into his time watching over Luke in some kind of daft "Obi Wan Kenobi: Tatooine Shadow Wars" is about the most boring concept possible, and we already saw way more of the Clone Wars that anybody deserved to be subjected to. He and Yoda went into hiding , not into covert operations. Let the character go. He's served more than his purpose in the Star Wars story.

I rewatched the trailer for next week and I actually think there's a shot that reveals what the conclusion is.

I like how all of a sudden everyone is treating Ezra like he's a nobody just because he's not "the chosen one".

You know who else isn't "the chosen one"? Han Solo. Lando. Jyn Erso. etc.

All people the Empire never would have been stopped without. Just because Ezra doesn't personally thrown the Emperor down a mine shaft doesn't mean he's not extremely important.

Hell, he's already BEEN extremely important. He's played a huge role in the formation of the Rebellion that ultimately gets Luke where he needed to be.

More Interdictors! I knew they saved the backup plans, I knew it!

28 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

I like how all of a sudden everyone is treating Ezra like he's a nobody just because he's not "the chosen one".

You know who else isn't "the chosen one"? Han Solo. Lando. Jyn Erso. etc.

All people the Empire never would have been stopped without. Just because Ezra doesn't personally thrown the Emperor down a mine shaft doesn't mean he's not extremely important.

Hell, he's already BEEN extremely important. He's played a huge role in the formation of the Rebellion that ultimately gets Luke where he needed to be.

Who is this everybody? Obi saved his butt in the desert knowing full well that it would force him to kill Maul and jeopardize his primary purpose on the planet (to watch over the chosen one). Obi doesn't have to be all hugs and kisses to Ezra; he saved his life said "Thanks for trying to save me but you done goofed." and told him to go home.

I mean really, Ezra is not the chosen one, and Obi-wan is an old man with a force-given job to do: he has no time to play rebel and swing from chandeliers with a light-saber in his teeth, he's done that and he knows that watching over this kid is the only way. The last chosen one brought down a thousand-year old republic and destroyed the Jedi order despite all their efforts, and Obi knows that there's little point in finding a non-force-based solution to a galactic problem. Obi's where he needs to be, and Ezra already has what he needs.

Remember, Luke is the chosen one. The keystone.

Without Luke the Death Star trench run fails and the Rebels are destroyed, the Cloud City ambush goes off without a hitch and the Rebels are incarcerated, and nobody saves Han or the Princess or confronts Vader and the Emperor the end. Nobody levitates C3P0, the Rebels get eaten by Ewoks, and the rebel fleet is crushed at Endor.

Three times that one guy saves the rebellion from certain decapitation or destruction because the force willed it.

That's why Obi-wan is sitting in the desert, and that's why he has no time for upstart Jedi and their rebel friends. He knows better than any rebel could ever know or be convinced that the entire war hinges on whether or not a little sandy-haired kid on a third-world planet survives the next day of his life.

Anyone know what the music playing in the trailer of "Zero Hour" is? It's wildly familiar but can't put my finger on it.

Copypost.