That may be my favorite lightsaber fight.... ever... holy crud that was the perfect way to end that arc
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I honestly don't know what I expected to happen, but it certainly wasn't what ended up happening.
I agree with Tailsgod, this may just be the best Saber fight I've ever seen. This one isn't so much about the action but the feeling behind it. I think it was handled perfectly.
Testing the old spoiler tag before I say anything about Twin Suns.[\spoiler]
That episode just could not have been better.
That was just... wow.
Chopper being awesome as usual.
Kenobi being Jedi Super Master. Block Block Chop.
Sand people.
Beru's voice.
Midget Luke running.
Dewback!!
Ezra's new ship.
Kenobi telling Ezra an alternate truth about the end of the sith.
I need to watch it again!
And a perfect way to end Maul, from both a story perspective and a more meta level because Maul was the start of the more fancy over the top lightsaber action, its only fitting that he is brought down by a simple three slashes
Someone also pointed out that Maul tried the same bump up trick he used to kill Qui Gon on Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan just saw right through it
Test SAT. Proceding as planned.
There is a special place in my fandom for Twin Suns. The episode happened exactly as I needed it too. In some ways it happened exactly as I expected it too. In other ways it surprised me.
Ezra's role made sense. (It hasn't in more episodes than not.)
Master Kenobi demonstrates he is worthy of the title.
Maul is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. Twin Suns is a fitting end to his story.
The duel was perfect. Master Kenobi shifts his stance and form in a perfect visualization of the difference between his younger self and the Jedi Master who will face Vader. We see Maul's hate and a moment of uncertainty in his footwork. His attack is fierce; as it should be. Kenobi is in control the entire time, and proves it with a few simple movements.
Maul's death is one of the best scenes in Star Wars. His killer is courteous and honorable, but without remorse. In his final moment, Maul manages to surprise us one last time. I am completely satisfied with this ending. [\spoiler]
As others have said, best episode to date. I easily enjoyed this as much as, or more, than the Ashoka/Vader episode which I thought would be hard to top. Loved the duel at the end, loved how short and surprising it was, love how several story-lines were wrapped up with a very fitting end. Truly, truly loved how the episode ended and hearing the music over the credits gave me goose pimples.
9/10, will absolutely watch repeatedly.
Best episode ever even beater than Vader Asoka duel
And now we know that they are darth maul bones and lightsaber buried somewhere in the Tatooine desert.
The Chopper *sigh*, the three stroke duel, and my goodness the ending scene and credits.
I did have to re-watch the duel. Had a lot of the old samurai/gunslinger in there. Both opponents have a conversation, then they eye each other up, shift stances and build tension, and then in 1.5 seconds all of that buildup is released and there's a moment where you can't quite make out the victor, but then one falls and well, not much left to do but say one's goodbyes or spit out a dying curse.
I like that school of combat choreography. It's closer to reality and I feel it's more impactful as well. Fights in life are typically short, brutal affairs with a clear winner and a dead loser; that's what makes them dramatic.
Anyway, great episode. On to Lothal now.
Did anyone else notice the RED Y-wing in the finale trailer? Maybe someday, we'll get a third Y-wing paintjob.
Red Leader, the first Y-wing pics:
As some others have said, I was disappointed that it wasn't the big climactic lightsaber battle I was expecting. And yet, what they went with actually felt more appropriate.
Especially since, as we know from Episode IV, Old Man Kenobi isn't much for acrobatic lightsaber battles anymore.
2 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:it wasn't the big climactic lightsaber battle I was expecting. And yet, what they went with actually felt more appropriate.
I think that's why i liked it. There was an elegance and simplicity to the fight and I loved the fact that there was more posturing and positioning than actual fighting. Great stuff.
And of course, Kenobi pulling more of his "from a certain point of view" bull.
"The holocron said the way to defeat the Sith was here." "Nah, it was all a trick by Maul. Nothing at all important on this planet. Move along."
10 hours ago, Major Tom said:That episode just could not have been better.
Yes, it could have..it could have been sans Ezra. He brings nothing to the Episode, and now can confirm that OB1 is alive, which should question the trustworthiness of Bail Organa to the rest of the Rebels. Now that they know that he is alive, then every Rebel with a spaceship should be going to Tatooine to get OB1 back into the fight. His cover is now blown. How can they continue on without some sort of attempt to get him out of "retirement". Sure he told Ezra that his place was on Tatooine, but you think Ezra is going to just say Ok and not reveal who he saw? Ezra's presence in this Episode just complicates the whole 'Rebels' story that much more.
I have read in this thread about how many "victories" the Rebels are having. Season 4 better put the Rebels on the run with lots of defeats and setbacks. I will also say that if Ezra and Kanaan survive to Rogue One, then Star Wars is broken.
One other thing, OB1 knows of Ezra...knows he is "force strong"...why doesn't he tell Ezra to go to Dagobah and train under Yoda? Understand that OB1 has to protect Luke and see this through, but is he still not loyal to the"Light Side" and the "Jedi"?
Edited by Cannon315 minutes ago, Cannon3 said:One other thing, OB1 knows of Ezra...knows he is "force strong"...why doesn't he tell Ezra to go to Dagobah and train under Yoda?
I'm going to say...because Kenobi knows that Yoda will be needed to train Luke later(because he believes Luke is the chosen one, not Ezra), and he doesn't want to expose Yoda by sending Ezra to him, possibly getting Yoda killed.
Also, let's face it. Ezra already has a teacher.
14 minutes ago, Cannon3 said:Yes, it could have..it could have been sans Ezra. He brings nothing to the Episode, and now can confirm that OB1 is alive, which should question the trustworthiness of Bail Organa to the rest of the Rebels. Now that they know that he is alive, then every Rebel with a spaceship should be going to Tatooine to get OB1 back into the fight. His cover is now blown. How can they continue on without some sort of attempt to get him out of "retirement". Sure he told Ezra that his place was on Tatooine, but you think Ezra is going to just say Ok and not reveal who he saw? Ezra's presence in this Episode just complicates the whole 'Rebels' story that much more.
I have read in this thread about how many "victories" the Rebels are having. Season 4 better put the Rebels on the run with lots of defeats and setbacks. I will also say that if Ezra and Kanaan survive to Rogue One, then Star Wars is broken.
If the rebels didn't know where Kenobi was, they wouldn't have shot droids at that planet specifically in search of him. Pretty sure Bail knew who his daughter really was, so he probably knew what Kenobi was up to and wasn't going to play that card unless absolutely necessary. This may have shown him Kenobi's location for the first time, but it was critical info for Leia to have at the end of Rogue One and we probably now know how she got it.
If Ezra wasn't involved, his story arc with Maul would forever remain unresolved. -He walked away from his old teacher, from revenge, from justice, from any emotions he felt and accepted Kenobi's instruction. Hmm... was he mind tricked by Old Ben into leaving? And we get a sweet new ship now, without Sabine as a pilot in it. And when Kenobi says there is another... he could mean Ezra.
The only thing that bugged me was the size of the holocrons. Are they constantly changing size now? Or are these just corners of the originals that he has left.
49 minutes ago, ViscerothSWG said:If the rebels didn't know where Kenobi was, they wouldn't have shot droids at that planet specifically in search of him. Pretty sure Bail knew who his daughter really was, so he probably knew what Kenobi was up to and wasn't going to play that card unless absolutely necessary. This may have shown him Kenobi's location for the first time, but it was critical info for Leia to have at the end of Rogue One and we probably now know how she got it.
If Ezra wasn't involved, his story arc with Maul would forever remain unresolved. -He walked away from his old teacher, from revenge, from justice, from any emotions he felt and accepted Kenobi's instruction. Hmm... was he mind tricked by Old Ben into leaving? And we get a sweet new ship now, without Sabine as a pilot in it. And when Kenobi says there is another... he could mean Ezra.
The only thing that bugged me was the size of the holocrons. Are they constantly changing size now? Or are these just corners of the originals that he has left.
Just corners of the originals on the holocrons.
I don't think Ezra was mind tricked by Ben, but rather some self realization. "This isn't your path to walk. You have another purpose to fulfill." Ezra's place is part of the Ghost crew, Ben's is to watch over luke, which happens to be on Tatooine. I agree with Ezra being in this episode to help complete his arc with maul as well.
As for the whole chosen one, Luke is the chosen one from a certain point of view. He is the catalyst that makes Vader re-think letting Palpatine kill his own son, which no other character gets through to him in that way. Not Ashoka, not Obi-wan, and Luke barely gets through to him, all things considered. The only other being in the universe that could also make him feel that way would be "your twin sister" which we know to be Leia. Imagine the opening of Episode 4 had Vader known that was his daughter...
Also glad to see the rebels have a new toy, but RIP Phoenix squadron. Tusken raiders: 1 Phoenix squadron: 0.
1 minute ago, FlyingAnchors said:Also glad to see the rebels have a new toy, but RIP Phoenix squadron. Tusken raiders: 1 Phoenix squadron: 0.
I suddenly want a Tusken Raider in an A-Wing in Wave 12. And Ewoks in a Lambda.
Just now, ViscerothSWG said:I suddenly want a Tusken Raider in an A-Wing in Wave 12. And Ewoks in a Lambda.
And an Ewok Glider.
1 hour ago, Cannon3 said:Yes, it could have..it could have been sans Ezra. He brings nothing to the Episode, and now can confirm that OB1 is alive, which should question the trustworthiness of Bail Organa to the rest of the Rebels. Now that they know that he is alive, then every Rebel with a spaceship should be going to Tatooine to get OB1 back into the fight. His cover is now blown. How can they continue on without some sort of attempt to get him out of "retirement". Sure he told Ezra that his place was on Tatooine, but you think Ezra is going to just say Ok and not reveal who he saw? Ezra's presence in this Episode just complicates the whole 'Rebels' story that much more.
I have read in this thread about how many "victories" the Rebels are having. Season 4 better put the Rebels on the run with lots of defeats and setbacks. I will also say that if Ezra and Kanaan survive to Rogue One, then Star Wars is broken.
One other thing, OB1 knows of Ezra...knows he is "force strong"...why doesn't he tell Ezra to go to Dagobah and train under Yoda? Understand that OB1 has to protect Luke and see this through, but is he still not loyal to the"Light Side" and the "Jedi"?
Based off this I'm guessing that this season is going to end with the Rebels losing a lot of what they had been building up for the past two seasons with them destroying the interdictor and then being on the run for this coming season. I would have thought the finale would deal with the attack on Lothal but it seems that the Empire will just be bringing the heat instead. Fun fact it looks like Thrawn will be having some Death Troopers with him for the attack.
I think my favorite thing was the fact that this underlined what we learned in Episode I: that the Sandpeople are just a bunch of drunken yahoos who like to shoot at and blow stuff up.
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I utterly shocked how fast Maul was cut down. However, after rewinding and watching, loved it. A perfect light saber fight. A calculated counter from a true master. Impressive. This episode, the building and dialog, was impressive.
Really confused on how they are going to have Ezra be quite about Obiwan.
13 minutes ago, DailyRich said:I think my favorite thing was the fact that this underlined what we learned in Episode I: that the Sandpeople are just a bunch of drunken yahoos who like to shoot at and blow stuff up.
They also have a cult like obsession with Vader:
Another forum was filled with people who disliked the ending and this was my response:
They've DONE massive, episode-spanning lightsaber battles between Maul and Kenobi several times. It's been seen, and frankly it's boring at this point.
The two men know each other well, and in those first few moments were replaying those fights, extending their wills and knowledge against each other in the real battle. The final blow would be anticlimactic if you don't remember that is isn't one fight, but the conclusion to a long struggle that has defined both of their lives and which neither had the upper hand. This moment had more tension and drama in it than any amount of sparkly laser-swords because of that history. It had weight .
The end was a foregone conclusion. We know already that Kenobi walks away and Maul does not. What we did not know is in that final moment, they were not adversaries, but allies. What's the line from Final Fantasy 9? "No one should have to die alone." Maul did not, and he died knowing that his vision was true, and the man who betrayed him - Palpatine - would soon join him in the Force.