10 minutes ago, JJFDVORAK said:

I really have no problem with non force users being able to use lightsabers, even though I was in the "only force users can wield them" camp before. Lightsabers are, after all, just space swords and non sword masters can use a sword. If they start making non force users block blaster bolts or fight and beat force users in a duel, then I would have a problem with it. Finn was able to kill a few troopers in TFA, but got his butt handed to him in a duel with Kylo Ren. Pre Visla used the Darksaber against Obi wan and lost. He used it against Maul and lost. So far, I'm pretty sure no non force user has bested a force user in a duel and that is how it should stay.

I liked how Sabine had to use her little shield bubble and not the lightsaber to protect herself from blaster bolts.

1 hour ago, Ken at Sunrise said:

What happened to the Light Saber only being able to be operated by a Jedi.

I guess it really is just a regular switch that anyone can turn on; you see Sabine actually flip the switch after she shoot Saxton's backpack and he fall to the ice.

The Empire Strikes Back happened.

You don't need to be a force user to use it as a sword. It handles strangely so you need special training to use it well (vibroblade skill doesn't carry over perfectly as we saw with Gar Saxon) but the mechanics of using it aren't supernatural. Pre Vizla stood up to Darth Maul with a lightsaber after all.

What you need the Force for is to use it as a shield. Without supernatural precognition you're not going to be deflecting blaster bolts with it and you certainly aren't going to be reflecting them. A lightsaber in the hands of a non-force user is as good against a blaster as a sword is against a gun. You're not going to block a bullet with a sword.

Therefore only Force users use them as their sole armament.

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Pre Visla used the Darksaber against Obi wan and lost. He used it against Maul and lost.

Against a Sith Lord and a Jedi Master. Vizla could probably take a non-plot armoured Jedi down with it. Maul versus Vizla wasn't that unfair a fight: he didn't do badly against Maul using his Mandalorian kit to make up for his lack of Force powers.

22 minutes ago, JJFDVORAK said:

I really have no problem with non force users being able to use lightsabers, even though I was in the "only force users can wield them" camp before. Lightsabers are, after all, just space swords and non sword masters can use a sword. If they start making non force users block blaster bolts or fight and beat force users in a duel, then I would have a problem with it. Finn was able to kill a few troopers in TFA, but got his butt handed to him in a duel with Kylo Ren. Pre Visla used the Darksaber against Obi wan and lost. He used it against Maul and lost. So far, I'm pretty sure no non force user has bested a force user in a duel and that is how it should stay.

I'm pretty sure a Swordmaster could defeat some Jedi. Like a Mandalorian Crusader, since they seem to have had a focus on meele combat

On 2/19/2017 at 3:21 AM, Ghost XV15 said:

I don't think that the Emperors Hand means the same as in Legends.

Also: No Hiatus
And an Episode out of Kallus' eyes? Hell Yeah!

From what I understand Kallus is going to call for an extract in the next episode because Thrawn is closing in on him looking for the traitor in the ranks. Looks like, if they get him out, we might be looking at Sabine's replacement on the Ghost's crew.

I don't have a problem with there being a switch on a Light Saber. I was just commenting on a few previous posts.

If I'm not mistaken the Ghost crew's record for extracting Imperial defectors is somewhere around 50/50...

On 2/18/2017 at 10:02 AM, FlyingAnchors said:

Kal skirata... Wren.

That's possible. In the Rebels Recon for this episode, they mentioned that Sabine's father was not a Wren. He married Ursa and took the Wren name as his own.

14 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Well, that was a solid episode.

I hate to say it but we don't lose a whole lot with Sabine leaving the crew, however temporary it may be. All we need now is for Zeb to go and we'd have our core core cast.

Yeah but FFG are going to have to come up with new PS5 pilots for their next batch of ships.

1 hour ago, Major Tom said:

If I'm not mistaken the Ghost crew's record for extracting Imperial defectors is somewhere around 50/50...

They've only lost one, Minister Tua, and have successfully extracted four (the kid from the Stormtrooper Academy on Lothal, Tseebo, Wedge Antilles and Derek "Hobbie" Klivian). I think Kallus will be the fifth. He's a great character and I'd hate to see him be killed off.

Gall Trayvis?

Maybe Sabine leaving the crew for awhile will open up the spot for Wedge. Maybe after the Kallus episode we will see Wedge's crash. Excpet that shot in the trailer shows him in his Awing flight suit.....

1 hour ago, Blue Five said:

Gall Trayvis?

I wouldn't call his attempted extraction a failure. He is a loyal Imperial subject used as bait to capture rebel cells when they attempt to extract him.

2 hours ago, T70 Driver said:

They've only lost one, Minister Tua, and have successfully extracted four (the kid from the Stormtrooper Academy on Lothal, Tseebo, Wedge Antilles and Derek "Hobbie" Klivian). I think Kallus will be the fifth. He's a great character and I'd hate to see him be killed off.

I forgot the kid from the Stormtrooper Academy, but did they not loose a couple of other potential defectors in the Antilles Extraction?

5 minutes ago, Major Tom said:

I forgot the kid from the Stormtrooper Academy, but did they not loose a couple of other potential defectors in the Antilles Extraction?

They did lose one on that mission. So they're 4-2 (or 5-2 if you count the Lothal kid's mom) with extractions so far. Not a bad record.

Totally a "fan theory" type of thing (and I'm not usually one to make/buy in to these), but I think one of the reasons Sabine left is because they will revisit her as a love interest of Ezra's at a later date (perhaps final season type of thing to wrap things together). Having her leave seems like the only practical way to do it without things getting weird to navigate in a kids show with them living together.

Or not, lol. Who knows if they will feel it is necessary to tread the love space much outside of whatever Hera and Kanan have going on even as Ezra grows up.

It's interesting from a story perspective that they would have a major character sit out for some time like this.

Let's see how it pays off.

5 hours ago, JJFDVORAK said:

So far, I'm pretty sure no non force user has bested a force user in a duel and that is how it should stay.

Grievous killed several Jedi in the Clone Wars, I am pretty sure he wasn't force sensitive.

Double-post

6 hours ago, Ken at Sunrise said:

What happened to the Light Saber only being able to be operated by a Jedi.

It's never been a thing in the canon. Unless you think Han used the Force to cut open that tauntaun.

Edit: Ah, Major Tom beat me to it.

Sabine is gone for three episodes tops...

One for a Kallus episode, another couple to bring back Maul or the TIE Defenders....

And then... WAKABOOM! She´´ will be uniting the Mandalorians with help from the gang.

9 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

Grievous killed several Jedi in the Clone Wars, I am pretty sure he wasn't force sensitive.

Yeah, totally forgot about Grievous. But you could explain that away because he's a cyborg and can move faster than your average person thanks to his droid parts.

True enough. He definitely has super-human speed and strength as well as the ability to move in ways that most opponents cannot.

Imagine what Vader would have been like if he had had that sort of reconstruction.

12 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

True enough. He definitely has super-human speed and strength as well as the ability to move in ways that most opponents cannot.

Imagine what Vader would have been like if he had had that sort of reconstruction.

Grievous was especially awesome in the original 2d animated clone wars cartoon. Before he was all asthmatic.

And Vader with those sort of cybernetic upgrades would have easily killed Palpatine and that is why he got a crappy iron lung to walk around in instead. Thanks alot Palpy!

9 minutes ago, JJFDVORAK said:

Grievous was especially awesome in the original 2d animated clone wars cartoon. Before he was all asthmatic.

And Vader with those sort of cybernetic upgrades would have easily killed Palpatine and that is why he got a crappy iron lung to walk around in instead. Thanks alot Palpy!

I'm pretty sure that in the new canon Vaders Upgrades aren't sup-par anymore, besides he can change them and has probably enough money to buy anything except a Death Star.
Furthermore Palps stated in the Vader Comics that some traditionalist Sith would call Vader allready an Abomination, due to him being most cybernetic, guess that's one point why Palpatine didn't want to go all out on him.

And on Vaders lungs, I' sure Grievous Lungs werent almost completely burnt on the inside, like Vaders. I mean he has some sort of coughting issues, but can breathe on his own, unlike Vader.

Man I'm seeing the parallels between Vader and Grievous only now...

As I understand it; Grievous voluntarily became a cyborg, and Mace Windu inflicted his breathing problems by crushing his metal chest with a force push. They never showed it in TCW, but I read somewhere that Filoni wanted to keep that backstory.

Vader's respirator keeps him alive. Somethingto do with his best friend leaving him for dead in a lava pit. As for Palp saving Vader; Palp devoted massive resources on a play that depended on Anakin turning. He wasn't going to waste that investment.