I like Rebels a little more every time I find one of these "tribute to the artist" nuggets.
I like it as long as the tribute is actually good. I don't automatically assume that everything McQuarrie did was an improvement just because he's McQuarrie.
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I never heard someone say "His mitochondrien count is over 9,000, he must be faster than Bolt.".
So I really fail to see the problem with midcloriens which are described in a similar way to mitochondrion, just with a connection to the force and just as essential to life.
I rather say most of the hate for midichlorians comes from a lack of education, combined with the arrogance to think otherwise. The whole explanation on midichlorians means jack ****. It explains little and all the movie claims is that a high count per cell or ml or whatever reference frame indicates potential with the force (per cell seems likely as Qui Gon describes them as organelles and the count runs along to their physical counterpart mitochondrien) . And that's it. What those cells really are, how they connect the the energy field that is the force, how one's mind influences his ability to listen to the force, etc all that remains mystery. It is for sure a rather unnecessary step of explanation, but it does not add anything or remove anything to the explanation and mystery of the force. It's pointless as explanation for the force, because it does not explain anything about the force, but it does explain how the jedi have a decent chance to find force sensitives at such young ages when force sensitives are so rare.
I've just never thought that way. I've always seen "good" actions as those that conserve energy in the long run and "bad" one as those that expend it unnecessarily.
You rob somebody, there are effects even if they don't know it was you: a need is created by the lack of whatever you stole and if they are so inclined another robbery occurs to replace that ad infinitum. Work, time, and therefore energy are wasted redistributing an existing item rather than creating new ones or discovering ways to do without or improving said item.
Murder wastes an entire human being, putting an end to all of their original ideas, halting their projects, creating a need in those dependent on them, and more time and more energy is wasted while a new human being fills their shoes.
Adultery destroys trust and weakens the physical bond within a couple, simple co-operation between spouses takes longer, projects that require good communication like raising a child or creating wealth suffer due to the lack of it, even if they do not know what is going on. If all these people do know what is going on then we end up with vengeance, more wasted time, more resources spent on destroying other resources, etc.
Interesting perspective really. So I guess you are a vegetarian amish than or an inherent evil/selfish person in your own morality system?!? Or maybe you are a good guy, with a a flawed concept? ^-^
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Definitely, else he would not try to make Padawan Caleb Dume, the guy who is losing right now his first ever student to the darkside an experienced educator. Meanwhile Rau actually IS an experienced educator and from the same cultural background as Sabine on top and with the same struggle as well.
What he is not is a lightsaber instructor, but he does not need to be to see this specific problem either.
I like Rebels a little more every time I find one of these "tribute to the artist" nuggets.
I like it as long as the tribute is actually good. I don't automatically assume that everything McQuarrie did was an improvement just because he's McQuarrie.
I surely do!
I think these are nice easter eggs and I have yet to find a bad design from him, furthermore the Storyteam knows how to implement his designs
I was combing through old articles on SW dot com and found this: http://www.starwars.com/news/meet-the-creatures-of-dagobah
The Krykna (Chopper Base spiders) were based on McQuarrie concept art. I like Rebels a little more every time I find one of these "tribute to the artist" nuggets.
Well, the entire aesthetic is based off McQuarrie's style. Pause just about any frame and compare it to McQuarrie work.
It's a dead ringer, every time.
Episode guide is up.
Nothing interesting in the galleries, but they shared a really nice piece of soundtrack, "Sabine's Catharsis":
http://www.starwars.com/audio/star-wars-rebels-sabine-s-catharsis-audio-cue
2 hours ago, eMeM said:Episode guide is up.
Nothing interesting in the galleries, but they shared a really nice piece of soundtrack, "Sabine's Catharsis":
http://www.starwars.com/audio/star-wars-rebels-sabine-s-catharsis-audio-cue
Kevin Kiner channeling Bear McCreary a bit, again, there...
(Bit more 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' than 'Battlestar Galactica', this time)
Hey guys, it's sort of funny how we all really liked the backstory of the darksaber, when Pre Visla already told it to us in the clone wars!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk
Still like Fenn Rau's tale though.
3 minutes ago, Sir Orrin said:Hey guys, it's sort of funny how we all really liked the backstory of the darksaber, when Pre Visla already told it to us in the clone wars!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vtj5YxDcCk
Still like Fenn Rau's tale though.
But Pre Visla just told you how it was. Fenn Rau had shadowpuppets in his version.
1 hour ago, OneKelvin said:But Pre Visla just told you how it was. Fenn Rau had shadowpuppets in his version.
Also FenRau had the bit about the mando jedi that made it, Pre Visla's story started when it was stolen.
1 hour ago, Rakaydos said:Also FenRau had the bit about the mando jedi that made it, Pre Visla's story started when it was stolen.
Like I already yelled to the hills...MANDALORIANS CAN BE JEDI!!!!
Why not, they are normal humans.
2 hours ago, eMeM said:Why not, they are normal humans.
I sense a disturbance in the force, like when someone tells Karen Traviss that she will get ignored ;-)
Edited by SEApocalypse30 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:I sense a disturbance in the force, like when someone tells Karen Traviss that she will get ignored
Can't argue with a Privateer avatar!
54 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:Can't argue with a Privateer avatar!
...You know, I legitimately can not tell if your avatar is Gendo Ikari or Doctor House...
5 hours ago, eMeM said:Why not, they are normal humans.
It's just from Legends it's not something you'd expect.
4 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:...You know, I legitimately can not tell if your avatar is Gendo Ikari or Doctor House...
That's because it's both .
2 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:That's because it's both .
Doctor Kaoku I presume.
It is a presure to finarry meet you.
6 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:That's because it's both .
Ah, right.
Don't worry. I'm going to get in the **** ship.
I mean, I don't even LIKE Evangelion. I just think it's a cool avatar.
Not to go on a tangent but reading Karen Traviss brings up another old "wound" from when the Clone Wars began to rewrite the canon. I honestly think Traviss had a far greater vision for the Clone culture and Clone Wars then Filoni and team had. Don't get me wrong i'm fine with Rex and Fives and all them, they were great, and the Clone Wars show had great elements. However whereas Traviss's material always made it seem to me that there was a massive war happening even when we're focusing tightly on a squad, The Clone Wars show never made the war feel huge. TCW could feel epic at times but when a war is involving as many worlds and people as the Clone Wars did it should always have an epic feel even when focused and that can be done through dialogue which require finesse in writing abilities.
As for the clones well, the way they're portrayed in the Republic Commando books is fantastic. Scenes where all the clones are chanting Vode An and the jedi commander can't hear it because they aren't in the inter helmet comm system are awesome. That's what the show never gave us, and could've instead of doing a four episode arc on D-Squad , was delve into the Clone Trooper's culture. They would've developed one. Why didnt they just hire Traviss on to write a clone arc? Or James Luceno who also wrote some incredible Clone Wars era material?
I don't dislike Filoni, and with the Clone Wars i'm not sure how much is him or Lucas, but people give him a lot of credit that I don't think is necessarily earned. He's been excellent in Rebels and there are many amazing elements of TCW I know he's responsible for but that show could have been so much better.
(Apologies btw and allow me this short rant
Its been brewing for some years)
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Interviews with Filoni give the impression George Lucas started out directly supervising the production, and gradually handed over the reins to Filoni.
3 hours ago, Forresto said:Not to go on a tangent but reading Karen Traviss brings up another old "wound" from when the Clone Wars began to rewrite the canon. I honestly think Traviss had a far greater vision for the Clone culture and Clone Wars then Filoni and team had. Don't get me wrong i'm fine with Rex and Fives and all them, they were great, and the Clone Wars show had great elements. However whereas Traviss's material always made it seem to me that there was a massive war happening even when we're focusing tightly on a squad, The Clone Wars show never made the war feel huge. TCW could feel epic at times but when a war is involving as many worlds and people as the Clone Wars did it should always have an epic feel even when focused and that can be done through dialogue which require finesse in writing abilities.
As for the clones well, the way they're portrayed in the Republic Commando books is fantastic. Scenes where all the clones are chanting Vode An and the jedi commander can't hear it because they aren't in the inter helmet comm system are awesome. That's what the show never gave us, and could've instead of doing a four episode arc on D-Squad , was delve into the Clone Trooper's culture. They would've developed one. Why didnt they just hire Traviss on to write a clone arc? Or James Luceno who also wrote some incredible Clone Wars era material?
I don't dislike Filoni, and with the Clone Wars i'm not sure how much is him or Lucas, but people give him a lot of credit that I don't think is necessarily earned. He's been excellent in Rebels and there are many amazing elements of TCW I know he's responsible for but that show could have been so much better.
(Apologies btw and allow me this short rant
Actually, I think this is pretty intentionally. The republic never becomes a war economy, the loss of life during the clone wars is most likely lower than the loss of life during World War 2 and the republic army consists of just about double digit millions of clone troopers lead by less than 30,000 jedi knights that is a pretty tame and small conflict for a galactic civil war. Neither side tries DBZ attacks against planets of the other side and most of the fighting is not at the big, shielded high population worlds of the core, but around strategic worlds with small populations and no shields at all. Neither side is going all out and most supporters of both side going after their businesses as usual and try to make a few credits from the war.
This might be a total change from legends, but in the end it fits the movies a lot better imho.
2 hours ago, jmswood said:Interviews with Filoni give the impression George Lucas started out directly supervising the production, and gradually handed over the reins to Filoni.
Does that mean that the worst of Clone Wars (the movie and the first seasons) was that directly supervised by Lucas, and once he handed over the reins to someone else, it all started to improve?
6 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:Actually, I think this is pretty intentionally. The republic never becomes a war economy, the loss of life during the clone wars is most likely lower than the loss of life during World War 2 and the republic army consists of just about double digit millions of clone troopers lead by less than 30,000 jedi knights that is a pretty tame and small conflict for a galactic civil war. Neither side tries DBZ attacks against planets of the other side and most of the fighting is not at the big, shielded high population worlds of the core, but around strategic worlds with small populations and no shields at all. Neither side is going all out and most supporters of both side going after their businesses as usual and try to make a few credits from the war.
You're way off. We know from Dark Disciple the Separatists committed geoncides against civilian populations on planetary scale. We also know from The Clone Wars they developed weapons specifically to to make genocide easier. The Clone Wars show toned down the carnage for audience, but the themes were present.
The The Clone Wars was a proxy war for Palpatine to establish a new order. He would not have deliberately jeopardized his power base in the Galactic Core. Even the Battle of Coruscant was a massive deception with the singular goal of grooming the next Sith apprentice.
Also, Kanan says in Rebels there were 10000 Jedi knights; I don't know where you got 30000 from.
