All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

I couldn't agree more.

All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

Why?

To quote Obi-Wan himself: "If you would have said one word, I would have left the order."

The jedi are not supposed to live a life without sex, they are supposed to life a life without permanent deep relationships, which is supposed to allow them to keep enough distance from others to follow the will of the force. One night stands are fine and Obi-Wan seemed to have a lot women in his past. What would be out of character would be Satine telling him about a child. She always tried to protect him and always let matters of state come before personal matters.

Anakin thought he was chosing love, but what ge really chose was his fear of loss. There is a difference. You can love someone wothout being afraid of losing them. Even if you do fear loss, you can love someone without murdering a bunch of kids and betraying the people who care the most about you.

Correct me if I'm wrong (this is the internet, I can trust you to do that much.) Obi-Wan served as Satine's bodyguard during his time as a Padawan. A time when his primary role model was an unconventional Jedi. A younger, more brash, more passionate Obi-Wan in the tutelage of a non-conformist Jedi Knight. The Obi-Wan we saw reunited with Satine was a conformist Jedi Master. He says he would have left the order for Satine, and he means it, but he means it in the context of remembering his younger self.

Exactly. I really doubt and admittedly hope that Obi Wan isnt Rey's father.

What I think and not to get off topic but I believe Rey isnt going to be Luke's daughter. I bet she's Han's and Leia's daughter and the twist is that Rey reveals they are siblings.

I just watched the Force Awakens again and the theory works. The only reason the Luke being the father works is because we know absolutely nothing about him.

Read Before the Awakening. Rey remembers her parents. I'm pretty sure that discredits all Rey Skywalker theories. Yes the main Star Wars Saga is the Skywalker Saga, but we already have a Skywalker in the new generation: Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.

Anakin thought he was chosing love, but what ge really chose was his fear of loss. There is a difference. You can love someone wothout being afraid of losing them. Even if you do fear loss, you can love someone without murdering a bunch of kids and betraying the people who care the most about you.

Correct me if I'm wrong (this is the internet, I can trust you to do that much.) Obi-Wan served as Satine's bodyguard during his time as a Padawan. A time when his primary role model was an unconventional Jedi. A younger, more brash, more passionate Obi-Wan in the tutelage of a non-conformist Jedi Knight. The Obi-Wan we saw reunited with Satine was a conformist Jedi Master. He says he would have left the order for Satine, and he means it, but he means it in the context of remembering his younger self.

Even old Obi-Wan fast basically flirting with every single female he came into contact, darksider or not. ;-)

So I am not that sure that he meant his younger self. I actually would say that if Satine would have said something, he would have left the order on the spot at the moment when he said it. It was not Obi-Wan's sense of duty, but Satine's one that kept them apart.

And I think it would have been totally in character for Satine to hide Obi-Wan's child from him if there was one. What this opens as well is that someone from death watch became Sabin's foster-mother. Someone Satine trusted, and someone who betrayed that trust with joining death watch without Satine knowing.

I still don't think that this theory is true, but I think it would be possible.

Flirting is one thing. Reproducing is something else.

I am also not saying it's impossible; just pointing out why I think the idea of a Satine/Kenobi offspring is inconsistent with the on-screen source material.

A caveat to another of my posts: I said, "Read Before the Awakening." What I meant was read Rey and Poe's stories in Before the Awakening. Do not read Finn's portion of the Before the Awakening. Staple Finn's pages together and staple that portion to the front cover, then seal the edges with glue. Finn's story in Before the Awakening is the worst bit of Star Wars canon I've ever read.

Now I need to know what happens to Finn in Before the Awakening.

Oh it is so much better than that Clone Wars bull-...stuff we got.

While I had to force myself the entire first three season to watch everything, I later skipped half the episodes.
With Rebels on the other hands, I did not skip one Episode.

I was very skeptical during the first season and forced myself here and there but the story and timeline is much more interesting to me and the characters are way better.

Then during the second and thrid season I started to love the series a great deal. There are till things I don't like about it, mainly concering thing about the new cannon I find silly. But there were WAY more of them in Clone Wars.

So I'm on board with it

Obviously Sabine is Satine's daughter. What I want to know is when do we meet her secret twin Saline? Or maybe Saltine...

Read Before the Awakening. Rey remembers her parents. I'm pretty sure that discredits all Rey Skywalker theories. Yes the main Star Wars Saga is the Skywalker Saga, but we already have a Skywalker in the new generation: Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.

I keep tellin' people. Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin's force convergence.

She's not Vader's granddaughter. She IS Vader. That's why she's so connected to his light saber.

Did anyone else think the droid in this week's preview took an obnoxious amount of time to process "Rebel Base" before it went Decepticon? And wouldn't it make more sense for the thing to just quietly activate a homing beacon instead of starting a brawl? I get it, the creators want to give Zeb something to do, but there must be a better way.

These comics crack me up.

Source.

Did anyone else think the droid in this week's preview took an obnoxious amount of time to process "Rebel Base" before it went Decepticon? And wouldn't it make more sense for the thing to just quietly activate a homing beacon instead of starting a brawl? I get it, the creators want to give Zeb something to do, but there must be a better way.

If you look you can see a sort of dent in its head. The Droid is basically the equivalent of the Iron Giant, a weapon that forgets it's purpose until some sort of trigger is introduced, i.e hearing the words "rebel base."

Did anyone else think the droid in this week's preview took an obnoxious amount of time to process "Rebel Base" before it went Decepticon? And wouldn't it make more sense for the thing to just quietly activate a homing beacon instead of starting a brawl? I get it, the creators want to give Zeb something to do, but there must be a better way.

Perhaps that "processing" was the transmitting of coordinates, which now successful, it goes onto secondary orders of sabotage and elimination.

Perhaps that "processing" was the transmitting of coordinates, which now successful, it goes onto secondary orders of sabotage and elimination.

And an Imperial commander receives the coordinates, but then Thrawn appears over his shoulder and says, "Let it go. I have plans for them..."

These comics crack me up.

Source.

Those are brilliant. The same artist made some Witcher comics, just as adorable as those

About the Guy Who Has Eyes, interesting detail - the ship captain has a rank of captain (no, really), while this guy sits higher on the ladder with commodore's insignia on his uniform.

These comics crack me up.

Source.

Those are brilliant. The same artist made some Witcher comics, just as adorable as those

About the Guy Who Has Eyes, interesting detail - the ship captain has a rank of captain (no, really), while this guy sits higher on the ladder with commodore's insignia on his uniform.

The chest squarers?

They've always been super inconsistant. I think Empire was the only film that cared to have any consistency with them. I wouldn't be surprised if they're just screwing around with the rank squares now.

I think in the Rogue One visual guide, there's even some mention of how wishy washy they are lol.

These comics crack me up.

Source.

Those are brilliant. The same artist made some Witcher comics, just as adorable as those

About the Guy Who Has Eyes, interesting detail - the ship captain has a rank of captain (no, really), while this guy sits higher on the ladder with commodore's insignia on his uniform.

The chest squarers?

They've always been super inconsistant. I think Empire was the only film that cared to have any consistency with them. I wouldn't be surprised if they're just screwing around with the rank squares now.

I think in the Rogue One visual guide, there's even some mention of how wishy washy they are lol.

I don't think they are 'rank squares', per se, but specific to the security clearance the person has. At least, that's how they were described in 'Catalyst'. So someone with a greater number of squares presumably has security clearance for more areas of the ship and/or communications than someone with less.

That does still feel somewhat unusual for someone manning the helm to have more security clearance than the 'ship captain' - but perhaps there are some nuances to the crew assignments we aren't aware of. Maybe he is the Political Officer equivalent (?ISB?) of the ship, as well. Nominally an assigned role, but in smaller ships combined with another crew's posting? He could have security squares for both duties, then.

They system is different in ANH and TESB, but the system is consistent, at least in the movies and in Rebels (disregard RotJ, they are completely random there, even Pablo advised to ignore them). It goes more or less like this:

(Aesthetics 1 is used in Rebels most of the time. This was based on old EU so it is not 100% complete for the new canon, there were some badges that are not present here):

I can post some examples from Rebels when I find my pictures, but basically every person that has his rank mentioned in the show (the exception being the Interdictor commander after demotion, I think) will have the badge and number of cylinders matching the chart.

EDIT and except Kallus, maybe IBB uses a different system.

From what I understand, the intention of RotJ wasn't to be inconsistant, but when they ordered the uniforms, they accidently got mostly the same rank plaques, and they decided not to redo them.

What are Aesthetics 2 and 3?

From Saxton's site, in universe explanation:

Some commentators assume that the different aesthetics reflect a radical change of insignia system at particular time in the history of the Empire. However any move that retained the physical parts comprising the insigia -- the squares and cylinders -- whilst changing their significance would cause widespread confusion amongst personnel. It seems more plausible that the meanings of the basic parts remained the same galaxywide, but the aesthetics of the combination of the parts depended on the regulations of the various regional or central units. Thus Tarkin's leftover forces would have continued with the same insignia as those shown in A New Hope, and the forces brought together in Lord Vader's taskforce probably had the same aesthetic scheme throughout Palpatine's rule. This contention is supported in Vader's Quest, which depicts Coruscant-based officers with insignia in the style that was most common in The Empire Strikes Back even though the comic seems to occur before STAR WARS Holiday Special.

At least three distinct aesthetic schemes can be identified in the STAR WARS films and literature. They are tabulated below, with interpolated insignia to fill the gaps that are so far unseen.

Aesthetic 1:

Includes insignia used within Lord Vader's taskforce. There are no gold squares, and every red square is automatically matched by a blue. Instead of using blue-red-yellow substitutions to spearate adjacent ranks, the number of cylinders is varied.

Aesthetic 2:

The format of the Grand Admirals explicitly couples gold and red squares. Only one example is known to date, but it may be representative of a more general scheme for the officers associated with central Imperial forces. The second remarkable feature of Thrawn's style of insignia is the absence of cylinders on display.

Aesthetic 3:

The aesthetic scheme used in regional forces, like Grand Moff Tarkin's. Except for the high joint-service officers, rank plaques have no more than six squares, arranged in only one row. The number of cylinders is fixed depending on broad bands of rank: Junior and middle-ranking officers have two cylinders. Those who in terrestrial terms would be called "star" officers have three cylinders. The cross-service regional military governors have four cylinders; in particular they are the Moffs, Grand Moffs and Supreme Moffs.

Out of universe, Aesthetics 1 is TESB/RotJ (assuming it was the Imperial Everyone Is a Commander Day) Aesthetics 2 is no longer valid (Thrawn has cylinders), Aesthetics 3 is seen mostly in ANH.

Some quick examples from Rebels:

Captain matches, commodore we don't know.

Another captain, Slavin.

Lieutenant in the back.

Admiral

From Kanan comics, so not directly from Rebels. Vice admiral Sloane.

What doesn't want to match with the chart are Aesthetics 3 badges worn in the show by Kallus and Titus, but in the chart Saxton tried to reverse engineer the insignia with some guessing and math, maybe the Story Group has different ideas as to how the one-row badges work.

We know most of the people in Rogue One (including places like Scarif) had single-row. Galen and Krennic, in flashbacks, also had single-row.

Konstantine having 4 cylinders compared to Piett & Ozzel's 3 might indicate he is slightly higher in position - "High Admiral"?

Or slightly lower, at least that's what Saxton suggested.

New canon doesn't give enough examples to make a definitive answer, although Pryce having the same badge as Tarkin but less cylinders would suggest this time they go the more intuitive way.

When I look closely - Saxton seems to be going with " less cylinders = higher rank" (1 cylinder 6x2 is High Admiral: "Class 1" - and ranks dropping down from ther to "Class 4: Fleet Admiral" for a 4 cylinder 6x2) .

That's not very intuitive. I think the reverse fits better - and that was how The Essential Guide To Warfare did it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rank_insignia_plaque/Legends

and Imperial Commander's Handbook had something similar.