STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

Who says Sabine is Asian anyway?

In a very technical sense, she isn't. But her design pretty clearly takes from an Asian phenotype.

But in the sense of Star Wars she's merely your average human, because when it comes down to it Humans are simply too far spread and have been for so long that determining such roots is... Kind of impossible.

So Sabine is technically just human, but has Asian traits to us.

How is she Asian if there is no (known) Asia in the Star Wars universe?

You can only push the whole Star Wars not having science idea so far. If it doesnt visually makes sense then it won't work, it won't be believable. You still have to be grounded in some logic.

You can only push the whole Star Wars not having science idea so far. If it doesnt visually makes sense then it won't work, it won't be believable. You still have to be grounded in some logic.

It has science. It is just science in the Star Wars Universe. In their world, spacecrafts need wings.

Read Catalyst; it gives a good explanation of Geonosian culture. The Geonosian survivor in this Rebels episode is definitely just a worker. I doubt he/she/it was educated enough to write the things the Rebels needed to know.

If that's what Catalyst says than it's just as poorly written as this episode.

The idea of a class that can't read or write, but still has knowledge of advanced robotics is ridiculous.

This drone was not an assembly line worker, putting a single part into it's place over and over. He was maintaining a force of droids and an advanced shield generator in their entirety on his own.

I never said the Geonosian workers were totally ignorant. Poggle the Lesser ascended from worker to Archduke. The point is there is a vast difference between being a competent technician and being able to communicate a detailed explanation of "circle in a circle" to alien invaders threatening your species with extinction. We're also assuming this particular character did anything other than just see the Death Star take shape in the sky.

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There are tons of different castes found in nature, (bees, ants, termites, wasps, snapping shrimp, mole rats, etc.) and some species can transition mid-way through their lives. The Geonosians are a space-faring race with a once-decent science program. I could be persuaded to believe that a caste of tech-savants was engineered to help more administrative drones with technical tasks in a space-faring culture.

Depending on the quality of the writing of course.

There was once a drone from Nantucket.

He became a tech-savant because **** it.

The ruling caste died,

When the Empire lied

So he carried his egg in a bucket.

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The writing persuaded me.

Who says Sabine is Asian anyway?

In a very technical sense, she isn't. But her design pretty clearly takes from an Asian phenotype.

But in the sense of Star Wars she's merely your average human, because when it comes down to it Humans are simply too far spread and have been for so long that determining such roots is... Kind of impossible.

So Sabine is technically just human, but has Asian traits to us.

How is she Asian if there is no (known) Asia in the Star Wars universe?

You know, I literally just said she wasn't asian in Star Wars. Please read my post again.

Who says Sabine is Asian anyway?

In a very technical sense, she isn't. But her design pretty clearly takes from an Asian phenotype.

But in the sense of Star Wars she's merely your average human, because when it comes down to it Humans are simply too far spread and have been for so long that determining such roots is... Kind of impossible.

So Sabine is technically just human, but has Asian traits to us.

How is she Asian if there is no (known) Asia in the Star Wars universe?

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You know, I literally just said she wasn't asian in Star Wars. Please read my post again.

Edited by OneKelvin

Who says Sabine is Asian anyway?

In a very technical sense, she isn't. But her design pretty clearly takes from an Asian phenotype.

But in the sense of Star Wars she's merely your average human, because when it comes down to it Humans are simply too far spread and have been for so long that determining such roots is... Kind of impossible.

So Sabine is technically just human, but has Asian traits to us.

How is she Asian if there is no (known) Asia in the Star Wars universe?

You know, I literally just said she wasn't asian in Star Wars. Please read my post again.

Quoted wrong chain, there was an earlier post saying she's Asian meant to grab that one.

Now Commander Sato, that dude is super Asian.

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Now Commander Sato, that dude is super Asian.

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He is no Master Asia, not until I see him jumping around and punching tie fighters out of the sky.

Sabine is clearly Asian. Sato is clearly Asian. :lol:

Clearly there must be an ethnic group in Star Wars that look like they're from Asia but go by some other name because Asia is on Earth. However we aren't going to go so insanely deep that we start calling the ethnicities of characters by made up Star Wars ethnic names. :D

You could take this logic train in every direction regarding humans in Star Wars. Why are there space British people? Why are there space Americans? Why does Lando have a Southern American accent as the historical conditions and sequences that led to someone of African ancestry being born in America are very particular (and sensitive to a great many people.) Just suspend disbelief. ;)

Humans in Star Wars, unlike real life, don't judge each other by race or ethnicity although that doesn't mean race doesn't exist there. People just don't judge or divide by it. Planet of origin is more important. So my point is she's Asian.

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Planet of origin is more important. So my point is she's Asian.

Thing is, her phenotype can come just fine from Obi-Wan and Satine. Might be from Obi-Wan's mother's side or Satine's Grandmother or whatever. Phenotypes of star wars humans are very diverse, actually so diverse that even alien dna is in that mix, plenty of near human species and some even more distinct species are compatible and contribute to humans genetic diversity.

Even that little diversity based from american slavery days till today is enough that phenotypes can drastically diverse from parents. The classic would difference in skin color to the parents. Not super common, but still happens. So Sabin having such a distinct phenotype is plausible.

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I know some people want Sabine to be Obi-wan's daughter, but c'mon. How hackneyed would that writing be to give BOTH Anakin and Obi-wan secret children? That's part of the whole contrast of the two characters. When tempted by love, Anakin ignores the rules of the Jedi, but in the same situation, Obi-wan chose to uphold them instead.

Sabine's mom is that Mandalorian woman in the trailer.

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I know some people want Sabine to be Obi-wan's daughter, but c'mon. How hackneyed would that writing be to give BOTH Anakin and Obi-wan secret children? That's part of the whole contrast of the two characters. When tempted by love, Anakin ignores the rules of the Jedi, but in the same situation, Obi-wan chose to uphold them instead.

Sabine's mom is that Mandalorian woman in the trailer.

I think Bo-Katan Kryze is her mother. It would fit thematically and i think the time line should work as well

Humans in Star Wars, unlike real life, don't judge each other by race or ethnicity although that doesn't mean race doesn't exist there. People just don't judge or divide by it. Planet of origin is more important. So my point is she's Asian.

Indeed, what difference does a slightly different phenotype make when that the thing next to you at the bar has a dozen tentacles and teeth like a chainsaw. :D

Sabine is clearly Asian. Sato is clearly Asian. :lol:

Clearly there must be an ethnic group in Star Wars that look like they're from Asia but go by some other name because Asia is on Earth. However we aren't going to go so insanely deep that we start calling the ethnicities of characters by made up Star Wars ethnic names. :D

You could take this logic train in every direction regarding humans in Star Wars. Why are there space British people? Why are there space Americans? Why does Lando have a Southern American accent as the historical conditions and sequences that led to someone of African ancestry being born in America are very particular (and sensitive to a great many people.) Just suspend disbelief. ;)

Humans in Star Wars, unlike real life, don't judge each other by race or ethnicity although that doesn't mean race doesn't exist there. People just don't judge or divide by it. Planet of origin is more important. So my point is she's Asian.

According to the new canon all humans originated on Coruscant. Brown humans with blue eyes, pink humans with red eyes, manila humans with brown eyes, semi-blue cybernetically altered humans with silver eyes that hover a foot in front of their face; all from Coruscant.

There might have been a space-Asia continent that the Sato-Sabine geneotype came from, but it is irrelevant because that continent was covered by a several-mile-deep alien-filled stretch of ungodly urban sprawl over 10,000 years before ether one of them manifested as a twinkle in their respective parents randomly-colored eyes. Just as there might have been some human racial tension back 100,000 years near the beginning, but humans have had their pick of completely different species as long as anyone can remember.

There's not much point anymore in bothering that other human about their skin color when there are real, goshdang aliens wandering around your home planet in the trillions. At least the human is, well, human; who knows what the thing with snakes for arms is thinking.

The accents are a different matter though.

Humans have managed to spread to many different planets in the galaxy, and they tend to have more allegiance to their home planet than to their overall human ancestry. The human colonies have been colonized for so long that they've become homeworlds in their own right, with different cultures and customs. British humans come from Coruscant and the core worlds, Americans come from Corellia, super-brits come from Eriadu, I assume that odd way Saw Gerrera speaks has something to do with him coming from Onderon, and so on and so forth for every human-colonized world.

(I haven't seen the Onderon episode though. Saw might just have that unique inflection because electricity will do that to your brain after a while in the Torture-Tube .)

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I don't understand why when we don't know who people's parents are, Star Wars fans try to make other known characters there parent(s), instead of just considering maybe the creators have new awesome characters to introduce instead. Just food for thought.

I don't understand why when we don't know who people's parents are, Star Wars fans try to make other known characters there parent(s), instead of just considering maybe the creators have new awesome characters to introduce instead. Just food for thought.

I think it's part of the fun. I don't do it personally, but think of the Sims right?

People like playing matchmaker, imagining romances, seaside trysts, moonlight dances, all that mushy-gushy nonsense. Sure, the rest of us see the galaxy for what it truly is; but we shouldn't begrudge the lovers their fantasies just because we know it inevitably ends in blaster fire or the jaws of some slobbering beast. :P

I don't understand why when we don't know who people's parents are, Star Wars fans try to make other known characters there parent(s), instead of just considering maybe the creators have new awesome characters to introduce instead. Just food for thought.

I think it's part of the fun. I don't do it personally, but think of the Sims right?

People like playing matchmaker, imagining romances, seaside trysts, moonlight dances, all that mushy-gushy nonsense. Sure, the rest of us see the galaxy for what it truly is; but we shouldn't begrudge the lovers their fantasies just because we know it inevitably ends in blaster fire or the jaws of some slobbering beast. :P

Or someone falling off of a thin bridge that doesn't have safety railings.

Or being bisected by a lightsaber.

Or maybe their GR75 crashed into the bow of a Star Destroyer that just jumped in-system.

Or they decided to finally take that trip to Jeddha City.

Or see sunny picturesque Alderaan.

Or a beach vacation on Scarif.

I don't understand why when we don't know who people's parents are, Star Wars fans try to make other known characters there parent(s), instead of just considering maybe the creators have new awesome characters to introduce instead. Just food for thought.

I think it's part of the fun. I don't do it personally, but think of the Sims right?

People like playing matchmaker, imagining romances, seaside trysts, moonlight dances, all that mushy-gushy nonsense. Sure, the rest of us see the galaxy for what it truly is; but we shouldn't begrudge the lovers their fantasies just because we know it inevitably ends in blaster fire or the jaws of some slobbering beast. :P

Or someone falling off of a thin bridge that doesn't have safety railings.

Or being bisected by a lightsaber.

Or maybe their GR75 crashed into the bow of a Star Destroyer that just jumped in-system.

Or they decided to finally take that trip to Jeddha City.

Or see sunny picturesque Alderaan.

Or a beach vacation on Scarif.

Welcome to the galaxy. Everything is lethal. Have fun.

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All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

Why?

To quote Obi-Wan himself: "If you would have said one word, I would have left the order."

The jedi are not supposed to live a life without sex, they are supposed to life a life without permanent deep relationships, which is supposed to allow them to keep enough distance from others to follow the will of the force. One night stands are fine and Obi-Wan seemed to have a lot women in his past. What would be out of character would be Satine telling him about a child. She always tried to protect him and always let matters of state come before personal matters.

All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

Why?

To quote Obi-Wan himself: "If you would have said one word, I would have left the order."

The jedi are not supposed to live a life without sex, they are supposed to life a life without permanent deep relationships, which is supposed to allow them to keep enough distance from others to follow the will of the force. One night stands are fine and Obi-Wan seemed to have a lot women in his past. What would be out of character would be Satine telling him about a child. She always tried to protect him and always let matters of state come before personal matters.

Obi-Wan strikes me as a one great love affair in a lifetime kind've guy. That quote right there, even years later he's clearly still madly in love with her. It's possible he met another woman because at this point whatever the writers decide to do is up in the air, but I do not see Obi-Wan ever loving another woman. Especially after that woman died the way she did in his arms.

Obi-Wan's cynicism stems I think from him losing his one love. He ultimately chose the Jedi OVER her and now that's she's gone he only has the jedi left. To justify losing the chance to be with his soulmate he's double down hard on being a jedi. He's NOT going to abandon that which he chose over happiness, quite the opposite I think.

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Mmmmmm. Spooky.

I like it!

All I'm gonna say is Obi-wan having a secret child ruins the character of Obi-wan.

Why?

To quote Obi-Wan himself: "If you would have said one word, I would have left the order."

The jedi are not supposed to live a life without sex, they are supposed to life a life without permanent deep relationships, which is supposed to allow them to keep enough distance from others to follow the will of the force. One night stands are fine and Obi-Wan seemed to have a lot women in his past. What would be out of character would be Satine telling him about a child. She always tried to protect him and always let matters of state come before personal matters.

Obi-Wan strikes me as a one great love affair in a lifetime kind've guy. That quote right there, even years later he's clearly still madly in love with her. It's possible he met another woman because at this point whatever the writers decide to do is up in the air, but I do not see Obi-Wan ever loving another woman. Especially after that woman died the way she did in his arms.

Obi-Wan's cynicism stems I think from him losing his one love. He ultimately chose the Jedi OVER her and now that's she's gone he only has the jedi left. To justify losing the chance to be with his soulmate he's double down hard on being a jedi. He's NOT going to abandon that which he chose over happiness, quite the opposite I think.