2:39, looks like a old Imperial officer with a personal guard. Looks kind of like Yularen, except the grey uniform.

If only there was an Imperial Officer intrinsically linked to Thrawn...

If that is Home One then I want an explanation. It would make more sense for it to be Raddus' ship, Profundity.

The 'Rogue One' visual guide explained.

Basically, the Mon Cal aren't building new ships for the Rebels. Rather, once they decided they could not live under the Empire, they started expanding their 'cities' by building new 'towers'...that had engines underneath them. So they left their world in a bit of an Exodus - the various 'ship captains' being the former 'city administrators' for the building they launched into space in.

(Net-net being that the Rebellion would go from having 'no Mon Cal' to suddenly having 'ALL the Mon Cal')

And the Dornean Gunship, a movie ship that flew under the radar for over 30 years and it took the universe reset for someone to finally notice it.

You see the Braha'tok gunship jumping into the fleet in the upper left at 1:05

Showing up a LOT, now. Wonder if 'Rebels' will bother to show us how they join the fleet, or if they just...appear?

That is, quite the fantastic trailer.

Thrawn kick-boxing robots!

I guess they've decided he won't be entirely brains with no brawn.

I'm so ecstatic for the second half of this season to drop! So many great things crammed into just this one trailer! Pretty much the only thing that we didn't see in the trailer that I was expecting was the X-Wing. Thrawn finally springs his trap, Sabine returns to Mandalore with the darksaber, TIE Defenders in action, the Braha'tok gunship, General Dodonna, and most importantly, Old Ben and Maul having a confrontation!! This season is easily going to go down as my favorite, I think. At least, of the seasons so far. Season 1 was great for a self-contained story that slowly dipped its foot into the Rebellion. Season 2... I mean, the Vader bits were cool, and seeing the small Rebel cell searching for and eventually establishing a base was neat. But Season 3 is easily the best of the three so far, especially with what we see in this trailer.

When do the jump pack stormtroopers appear? I missed them.

2:16

It is very brief, and among all the images of Mandos, so it is easy to miss. But the helmet is very much Stormtrooper.

OMG OMG OMG OMG

!!!!!

Sabin becoming the Mandororiest of the Mandorians!

Mon Mothman! Gathering the Mothmen!

!!!!!

This short work week feel like the longest week all year!

Hoping that exchange goes:

Ben "You're in the wrong place."

Maul "You're half right."

That is, quite the fantastic trailer.

Thrawn kick-boxing robots!

I guess they've decided he won't be entirely brains with no brawn.

Thrawn with Brawn.... that rymes!!!

You see the Braha'tok gunship jumping into the fleet in the upper left at 1:05

Showing up a LOT, now. Wonder if 'Rebels' will bother to show us how they join the fleet, or if they just...appear?

Kicking around thoughts on that...

Supposedly, the Braha'tok is only 90m long, so...EASILY in range for being an 'Epic'-scale ship in X-Wing. (That's basically the GR75 size)

Question is...so far, we've only ever seen it in the background of shots. I can't imagine FFG would put out a 'huge' model of the ship without a lot more than that. If the 'Rebels' series DOES dive into the background of this, though...maybe our intrepid band being a part of bringing the Dorneans into the Rebellion in the first place, and giving us some major characters to recognize...

If that is Home One then I want an explanation. It would make more sense for it to be Raddus' ship, Profundity.

The 'Rogue One' visual guide explained.

Basically, the Mon Cal aren't building new ships for the Rebels. Rather, once they decided they could not live under the Empire, they started expanding their 'cities' by building new 'towers'...that had engines underneath them. So they left their world in a bit of an Exodus - the various 'ship captains' being the former 'city administrators' for the building they launched into space in.

(Net-net being that the Rebellion would go from having 'no Mon Cal' to suddenly having 'ALL the Mon Cal')

........wait, what?

That's canon? They just ditched their planet in wierd skyscrapers?

How did no-one notice if they were being subjugated? How did they justify the hangar bays or the fact that the entire building was built sideways? Wouldn't the Empire discovering just one of these skyscrapers was a ship early on doom the entire plan? Why aren't their ships filled with water if they're Mon-Calamari apartment blocks? How did they make it past the blockade?

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

Ben "You're in the wrong place."

Maul "You're half right."

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

I like it compared to simply converting existing ships.

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

I like it compared to simply converting existing ships.

I love Hogan's Heroes! was just watching it the other day! maybe there was an imperial version on Schutlz who let them escape!

If that is Home One then I want an explanation. It would make more sense for it to be Raddus' ship, Profundity.

The ship in the video looks to be a MC80, the Profundity is an MC75

If that is Home One then I want an explanation. It would make more sense for it to be Raddus' ship, Profundity.

The 'Rogue One' visual guide explained.

Basically, the Mon Cal aren't building new ships for the Rebels. Rather, once they decided they could not live under the Empire, they started expanding their 'cities' by building new 'towers'...that had engines underneath them. So they left their world in a bit of an Exodus - the various 'ship captains' being the former 'city administrators' for the building they launched into space in.

(Net-net being that the Rebellion would go from having 'no Mon Cal' to suddenly having 'ALL the Mon Cal')

........wait, what?

That's canon? They just ditched their planet in wierd skyscrapers?

How did no-one notice if they were being subjugated? How did they justify the hangar bays or the fact that the entire building was built sideways? Wouldn't the Empire discovering just one of these skyscrapers was a ship early on doom the entire plan? Why aren't their ships filled with water if they're Mon-Calamari apartment blocks? How did they make it past the blockade?

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

Some elaboration and conjecture here:

The "ships" were cities on the surface. Not a skyscraper but, but a longhouse.

As to the ships being filled with water, the more something weighs, the more energy it would take to lift it from the surface, so perhaps the cities were drained, of course with the above surface city idea, not filling them with water helps with buoyancy.

As to the empire finding out, that was probably a concern. Much of the city conversion, and keep in mind that we have repulsor floating cities already (Cloud City), so upgrading repulsor system could be overlooked, the Mon Cala may have started this idea a decade ago and just started the evacuation - we don't know. Yet.

If the Mon Cala tow the line (pun intended) and give the empire whatever they want, the empire may not fully occupy the world, letting the conversion happen.

If the city-ships are surface bound, the hangars make sense as a water world doesn't have good parking - not every ship can make a water landing, let alone take off, likely.

The 'Rogue One' visual guide explained.

Basically, the Mon Cal aren't building new ships for the Rebels. Rather, once they decided they could not live under the Empire, they started expanding their 'cities' by building new 'towers'...that had engines underneath them. So they left their world in a bit of an Exodus - the various 'ship captains' being the former 'city administrators' for the building they launched into space in.

(Net-net being that the Rebellion would go from having 'no Mon Cal' to suddenly having 'ALL the Mon Cal')

Wow. So basically they did a Lusankya on them. Hilarious, ridiculous, and rather disappointing.

That is, quite the fantastic trailer.

Thrawn kick-boxing robots!

I guess they've decided he won't be entirely brains with no brawn.

Well even in Zahn's novels it was hinted he was no slouch in that department. I mean, he was strong enough to resist Mara's force choking.

Defenders!

Maul and Obi-Wan!

Saw!

Y wings!

Sabine having a real arc!

Can't wait for the rest of S3, looks awesome.

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

I like it compared to simply converting existing ships.

I guess. I mean, converting old ships made sense. The CIS did it with most of their fleet like Lucrehulks, and Banking Clan Frigates, the Mon-Calamari did it with cruise liners and bulk freighters.

Now instead of converting ships like sane people, they pulled a StarCraft and flew their base away. How do you pitch a plan like that?

"Hey Ackbar. I don't like how these Human aliens are running the show on our planet; but I have a plan."

"Oh yeah? Shoot."

"We build a brand-new fleet of starships, but we tell the humans that we're building skyscrapers."

"Yeah, but won't they be able to tell? I mean they are subjugating us to the point that we would consider such drastic measures. What if they decide to veto our building permits or send a building inspector?"

"They won't."

"How will we get the materials for a fleet if we're being subjugated? And if we're not being subjugated that badly then why would we leave?"

"Your questions are silly. I'm going to strap rockets to my house and that's all there is to it. And you are too."

"But I don't want to! That's a stupid plan!"

"You do want to and it's a brilliant plan."

".....Fine. But only if I get to make my house really lumpy."

"Agreed."

Remember that they were building their cities underwater, though - so that the 'skyscrapers' were going to be totally airtight, have internal power plants, and be structurally sound enough to withstand water pressure at depth...wasn't going to be unusual as a starting point.

Honestly, it feels more logical (a one-time exodus of the entire fleet) than the idea of the Empire allowing them to go on building ships in orbit, then converting them to warships, without bothering to interfere. Any sort of 'ongoing support of the Rebellion' from a planet was never going to be plausible, which was always a weakness of the EU stories.

Any sort of 'ongoing support of the Rebellion' from a planet was never going to be plausible, which was always a weakness of the EU stories.

As an aside, I like that the Rogue One to A New Hope timeline shows that Tarkin wasted no time at all resolving "the Alderaan problem" once he got a hold of the Death Star.

Teach that little princess to keep "losing" ships to the rebellion.

I need more details dude, cause' re-cannoning the Mon-Calamari as a single species-sized episode of Hogans Heroes does not seem like a very well thought-out story decision.

Edit. Yes, Hogan's Heroes was a good show. No, re-making it with a race of fish-people does not amount to well-thought-out storytelling.

I like it compared to simply converting existing ships.

I guess. I mean, converting old ships made sense. The CIS did it with most of their fleet like Lucrehulks, and Banking Clan Frigates, the Mon-Calamari did it with cruise liners and bulk freighters.

Now instead of converting ships like sane people, they pulled a StarCraft and flew their base away. How do you pitch a plan like that?

"Hey Ackbar. I don't like how these Human aliens are running the show on our planet; but I have a plan."

"Oh yeah? Shoot."

"We build a brand-new fleet of starships, but we tell the humans that we're building skyscrapers."

"Yeah, but won't they be able to tell? I mean they are subjugating us to the point that we would consider such drastic measures. What if they decide to veto our building permits or send a building inspector?"

"They won't."

"How will we get the materials for a fleet if we're being subjugated? And if we're not being subjugated that badly then why would we leave?"

"Your questions are silly. I'm going to strap rockets to my house and that's all there is to it. And you are too."

"But I don't want to! That's a stupid plan!"

"You do want to and it's a brilliant plan."

".....Fine. But only if I get to make my house really lumpy."

"Agreed."

We should take Bikini Bottom and push it somewhere else!

It is also looking that Sabine's mom is at the very least inspired by Rook Kast.

Defenders!

Maul and Obi-Wan!

Saw!

Y wings!

Sabine having a real arc!

Can't wait for the rest of S3, looks awesome.

That is, quite the fantastic trailer.

Thrawn kick-boxing robots!

I guess they've decided he won't be entirely brains with no brawn.

Thrawn with Brawn.... that rymes!!!

Grand Admiral Brawn

I'll see myself out.

Right now the canon feels like well the Empire doesn't exist in The Force Awakens so we need to get them out of the way quickly so we can get the story back to the sequels. All i'm saying is things feel rushed for something on the scale of a galaxy.

Ehhh...the Empire isn't gone by the time of 'The Force Awakens'. After Jakku, they signed a treaty that ended the war , yes, but it didn't dissolve the Empire. The Empire kept on going, just no longer at war with the New Republic. Mostly, systems that remained loyal to the concept were following one Moff or another, who, indeed, kept fighting each other for years.

The 'First Order', in TFA, was just one of the larger splinters off the original Empire - building up strength in the Outer Rim - but only one of many. Probably the largest, and certainly with the most industrial capacity, but it isn't like "the Empire" dissolved after Jakku. It just started crumbling, then, and hadn't finished falling apart even 30 years later....

Whaaaat? Naw! Clearly you're wrong! This CAN'T be true because I have to hate DA MOUSE because clearly, clearly, everything they make is bad and #LEGENDSFOREVER!

There couldn't possibly be unstated or at least common sense implications of these things! No way!

That's just inconceivable.

Uhm, I am pretty sure that new canon has the first order supporter by the new republic. Centralists and Seperatists are again two factions within the republic and guess who the centralist are supporting with resources and hard credits? ;-)

Anyway, happy new Year people of this topic.

WHAT CAN I EVEN SAY THAT HAS NOT BEEN SAID THIS TRAILER IS F***ING AMAZING