STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

There are no sources that consider them a different model of AT-AT. Like everything else in Rebels, it looks different because of art style.

They have extra turrets (I think the rear turret is fired in some episodes). And the relevant gallery on Starwars.com:

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/relics-of-the-old-republic-trivia-gallery

mentions that it's a different model.

"Art style" can only cover so much.

The AT-ATs shown in Rogue One appear to be a different design.

With its own page:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/at-act-walker

Edited by Ironlord

The AT-ATs shown in Rogue One appear to be a different design. Perhaps intended to represent an intermediate model between Rebels and ESB. Then again, most armies have hardware of varying ages in service and the start of Rebels to ESB spans ~8 years.

Most likely explanation is that Vader has the latest and best equipment with him when he assaults Hoth. The AT-ATs in Rebels and Rogue One probably represent earlier versions of the same basic vehicle.

What you see in Rogue One are AT-ACT, an AT-AT for cargo transport.

the rocket launcher seemed to have seriously damage the AT-AT's leg? The scariest thing about the battle of Hoth was how those things did not even slow down, no matter what the Rebels threw at them (aside from the cable that is).

I didn't see any rocket launchers at Hoth. Maybe they were out of rockets.

It is. The AT-ATs in Rebels are a larger early model. Structural integrity might very well be the reason why ESB AT-ATs are smaller.

There are no sources that consider them a different model of AT-AT. Like everything else in Rebels, it looks different because of art style.

Pretty sure that was on Rebels Recon.

Pretty sure that was on Rebels Recon.

I just want Sabine to die.

She's the weakest link, the Rebels team need a tragedy to really punch them home. Should be Sabine.

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We'll see. ;)

Edited by OneKelvin

I just want Sabine to die.

She's the weakest link, the Rebels team need a tragedy to really punch them home. Should be Sabine.

I actually think that Zeb is the weakest link.

Why?

Because his story is OVER. He was mad (at the Empire and himself) about his people being slaughtered, he was personally enraged at Agent Kallus for being involved, but that's all resolved - his people have a new unreachable homeland, Kallus is a Rebel recruit, and his story involvement now is mostly standing around and shouting "Karrabast!"

Compare that to Sabine's story - her people are in bed with the Empire, her mother might or might not be at high levels of involvement, we've still got her bounty hunter days as potential story fodder, AND there's possible romantic angles with her and Ezra (doubtful, but should be mentioned as possible story development). Kanan's story isn't over either (romance with Hera, trying to become a gray Jedi, redeeming Ezra if the apprentice falls, etcetera).

Just judging on how I'D write the story, Zeb'd make a perfect "I could have saved him" moment for Ezra with removing a minimum of story potential. His main story job these days is standing around saying "Karrabast!" or doing comic foil work with Ezra... which can be done with any of the main crew.

I realize that there's a backlash among some grognard fans about strong female characters in Star Wars (weird to me, because Princess Leia is strong right from the start!), but Sabine's got too much potential to waste.

I'll grant you that Zeb is 2nd on my list there. Just... my issue with Sabine is that she's...

I guess the nearest equivalent is the token black guy in a horror movie, she's just the token girl, that's all she has really brought to the table thus far. I want to have strong female characters, but they should stand on their own merit - not just be there to be strong female characters. Ahsoka is a strong female character. In TCW Luminara Unduli was a strong female character. HERA, Is A masterfully well done strong female character.

Sabine so far has been so thoroughly underutilized that I fail to see a point of her.

There is potential there, but thus far it has been wasted.

Edited by DariusAPB

In fact, shout out to Hera for being so **** amazingly well done, right down to the little details of her biting her lip in determination when flying.

I see Sabine as being important plot point at the moment (she's the explosives expert). She doesn't have a lot of development, but they are starting to move more and more into the Mandolorian space, which is right where her character story fits. I think there just wasn't enough room in the early seasons to fit her background story in and she's going to be the Season 3-4 character development.

In fact, shout out to Hera for being so **** amazingly well done, right down to the little details of her biting her lip in determination when flying.

Right here. Hera is my personal favorite of the ghost crew. It's hard to place down exactly why, but I consider her the best one.

Hera's my favorite too, closely followed by Chopper.

Sabine has four major characteristics as far as writing goes:

1) Mysterious past. She has ties to Mandalore, the Imperials, and then to bounty hunting (in that order of her life's story), and none of it has been fully explored. Contrasted to Hera (who's been in the rebellion biz since a young age) or Zeb (who was in the rebellion since his planet got rekt), there's a lot of room for past elements to show up. Kanan has some of the same thing, because he did bum around space for 10-15 years before falling in with Hera, but Sabine's ties to three major entities are believable and useful plotwise. Would the Protectors of Concord Dawn ep worked as well without a Mandalorian to be a part of their culture?

2) Genius. She has strong artistic ability, is skilled in non-Basic languages, is highly adaptable and open to new experiences, has little regard for social rules, and has a dozen other minor traits that point to extremely high intelligence, rather than Force ability. It gives her a unique trait among almost any Star Wars characters. You might call Leia smart and determined, but you'd never call her a genius. Thrawn would be the only one who has ever been called genius.

3) Romance. Ezra was interested in her at the start, but she obviously wasn't interested in him and that ended rather quickly; right now they're at "co-workers and friends" stage. However, it's possible that at some point they'll develop a romance based on mutual respect for each other. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing or something I even want to see, but it has the potential to develop and thus is a trait unique to her. Can't see Ezra and Zeb hooking up outside of a few fringe slash fanfics.

4) Demolitions. Hera's the pilot, Ezra and Kanan are the Jedi, Chopper's the electronics specialist, and Zeb's the brawler. Since demolitions is a highly-skilled art, no one currently on the team can replace her. However, the Jedi can brawl just as well as Zeb; even if they don't have monkey-hands or high strength, the Force substitutes for both of those.

All of those stack up to a big lot of not-disposable. Zeb's at #1 on the list (mostly because, as I said, his story arc is wrapped up in a neat little bow), and I actually think the second most disposable character is Kanan (he's taught Ezra how to use the Force), but offing him would make the show WAAAY more dark and dramatic than they're shooting for.

Edited by iamfanboy

I really don't think they will kill of any of the main crew. They didnt even kill constantine for goodness sake.....

the rocket launcher seemed to have seriously damage the AT-AT's leg? The scariest thing about the battle of Hoth was how those things did not even slow down, no matter what the Rebels threw at them (aside from the cable that is).

I didn't see any rocket launchers at Hoth. Maybe they were out of rockets.

That was my thinking too - they had laser weapons which (obviously) didn't affect them but we saw no rockets or similar at Hoth (or anywhere else I remember in the OT). The cheesy & obvious retcon echoes a line from earlier in the movie "we're having trouble adapting the munitions to the cold".

I'm sceptical about weapon power levels in Rebels after the ridiculous fighter vs fregate and fighter vs anit-fighter corvette duels.

But even if we take what we see in this show for granted I doubt a shoulder lanuched missile would be more powerful than a dedicated anti-armor turret. The Empire probably improved the leg protection after experiences from Rebels and Rogue One.

0:07 right under the CR-90.

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Anyone else looking forward to Rogue One/Rebels crossover?

Honestly even if we barely see it and it clearly isn't the Ghost in other shots, it's just so cool that they are making the universe work together like this.

BUT, it IS next to both a Hammerhead and a Corvette so...

Edited by InterceptorMad

Thanks for the closeup.

Honestly even if we barely see it and it clearly isn't the Ghost in other shots, it's just so cool that they are making the universe work together like this.

BUT, it IS next to both a Hammerhead and a Corvette so...

THANK YOU BASED DISNEY

0:07 right under the CR-90.

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Anyone else looking forward to Rogue One/Rebels crossover?

Oh BEYOND excited

It looks like it's missing it's Attack Shuttle.

It looks like it's missing it's Attack Shuttle.

Well it's the weakest link in the entire ship, they may have to sacrifice it to escape Thrawns trap.

Could Thrawn's trap take place during Rouge one? :huh:

Could Thrawn's trap take place during Rouge one? :huh:

We should still be 2 years out from ANH.

Could Thrawn's trap take place during Rouge one? :huh:

"Let them go...for now!" Mwahahahaha

I'd pull my hair out

We should still be 2 years out from ANH.

We don't know how long before ANH that R1 takes place do we?