Told ya it's her.

Urgh. His old backstory was so much better. Now he just gets drafted into the rebellion by Sabine, making her even more of a Marry Sue than she was previously . . . bleh.

What's even more annoying?

Where did Wedge's accent go?!

Told ya it's her.

Urgh. His old backstory was so much better. Now he just gets drafted into the rebellion by Sabine, making her even more of a Marry Sue than she was previously . . . bleh.

What's even more annoying?

Where did Wedge's accent go?!

Hasn't Wedge always had an American accent?

I remember reading about that in a "Three Wedge's" article (I think on Starwars.com?) - Dennis Lawson's voice was dubbed over as well. Too bad, I like the idea of British Public School Accent=EVIL, while Scottish=Rebel - instead his accent was just rather standard American.

So i'm going to probably start a riot with this... but does this mean we get Sabine and Wedge in TIE interceptors at some point? (as an expansion)

So...how about the show then? Getting a bit heavy in here.

I wrote a mostly spoiler-free review of the episode here - http://superdstuff.com/star-wars-rebels-the-holocrons-of-fate/.

Obviously I can go into more detail here.

I personally really liked the last episode. Good emotion, solid over all story, fun prophesy bit - nice nod.

I'm used to this reincarnation of the Doctor - it is a bit weird, but actually if you think of it in a Tom Baker as Doctor Who way, it really makes sense. Doctor Who has always been somewhat grey.

My only issue - those were some very stupid droids that Maul had.

It's balanced out by his sweet Mandalorian ride. That guy sure knows how to pick a ship. Plus, unless you hire an Astomech or some kind of horrifying battle droid (like Highsinger, for example) you're pretty much guaranteed to get a moron droid.

Or a Gonk.

Oh my, weaponized Gonks would have been amazing!

Told ya it's her.

Urgh. His old backstory was so much better. Now he just gets drafted into the rebellion by Sabine, making her even more of a Marry Sue than she was previously . . . bleh.

This backstory is pretty cool, Wedge wanting out and contacting the rebellion on his own. And the Rebellion sends Sabine, because she of apropriate age and not as unreliable as Ezra lately. Don't see anything wrong here.

Little known fact about the Dennis Lawson who played Wedge is that for a short time he was married to David Bowie in the late 70's. They didn't have any children. I'm not sure why they got divorced.

Told ya it's her.

Urgh. His old backstory was so much better. Now he just gets drafted into the rebellion by Sabine, making her even more of a Marry Sue than she was previously . . . bleh.

This backstory is pretty cool, Wedge wanting out and contacting the rebellion on his own. And the Rebellion sends Sabine, because she of apropriate age and not as unreliable as Ezra lately. Don't see anything wrong here.

Nah dude it's new.

We can't be having that.

Uhh... what was so great about his old backstory? Parents died in an accident and left him wealthy, he bought a freighter and tried to make a living as a legitimate businessman, he fell in love with some Rebel gal who was killed by the Empire, which made him join the Rebellion. That's perfectly acceptable writing, but hardly some intricately plotted work of genius that makes one sigh at its loss.

And frankly, the only part that has definitely changed is the endline. We know he was a freighter pilot at one point from the clip, so the middle part of his backstory remains fairly true. The beginning? Well, we wouldn't need to confirm/deny Booster Terrik without Corran Horn, and if you're complaining about Sabine being a Mary Sue in the same general area where Corran Horn might exist I'm not sure you know what a Mary Sue IS.

And I want to note for the records that I recently read and enjoyed the Corran Horn X-Wing novels, but that doesn't mean Corran isn't a Mary Sue. Man, there's something I just love about Stackpole's writing. It's so formulaic, and yet...

Imperial Sabine pilot confirmed.

I'm so excited for this episode! and yes, I do think there is a chance of an ezra/wedge rivalry, but there's also a good chance of there just not being one. although they really should address Ezra's feelings if he has any.

Imperial Sabine pilot confirmed.

Except.. she is a Rebel that is pretending to be an imperial, which would make her the pilot card that is coming out with her masterpiece.

Of course sabine COULD be an academy pilot, in which case, you would be correct

Wow, I'm so pro-imperial that some of my posts (in this thread) have gotten me warning points, and even I think a few of those is too far.

Considered posting a few replies, showed more restraint than I usually tend to.

Sabine is still overrated.

I think Maul's line "he Lives" is referring to Obi Wan.

I think Maul's line "he Lives" is referring to Obi Wan.

I think that's the assumption most of us are operating under - it's certainly the only person he'd be raging against that much, and Ezra's line about 'two suns'.

Still, though - other possibilities. Could Ezra have said 'two sons', referring to Maul's "brother" Savage Opress? And Savage is alive, somehow? Or could Ezra have been seeing something else, entirely (after all, Ezra wanted to see the 'key to defeat the Sith' - which is surely Luke, on Tatooine)? Maybe what Maul saw was Yoda - I mean, we don't know what the "canonical" reason behind the cave of Dark Side energy is on Dagobah, do we? Maybe Maul comes to kill (or learn something from?) Yoda - and they fight, with Maul dying there?

I think Maul's line "he Lives" is referring to Obi Wan.

Yeah I figured that. Same as above, Luke is the defeat of the sith, two suns refers to Tatooine...

I think Maul's line "he Lives" is referring to Obi Wan.

Yeah I figured that. Same as above, Luke is the defeat of the sith, two suns refers to Tatooine...

I'm really hoping for a straight-up adaptation of the story "Old Wounds" from Star Wars Visionaries. It's where the design of Maul came from for the Clone Wars, so it's a logical climax for his story line. It would be really cool to have a stand-alone Obi-Wan centric episode that has nothing to do with our heroes.

Nah it'll be Ezra gushing over Obi-Wan being all like "hey you're that cool jedi" The South park Memberberries come to mind.

I'd be down for another Obi Wan Kenobi appearance.

This time he should bisect Darth Maul top to bottom, and then say "Let's see them put you back together this way."

And Obi Wan Kenobi will be voiced by Bruce Campbell.

Well, Dave Filoni has been trying to actively get Ewen McGregor back to voice the Rebels Obi-Wan.

So far, it was done by the same voice actor who did him in the clone Wars (whose name escapes me, apologies)...

So there has to be a call for him to be recruiting, after all.

Well, Dave Filoni has been trying to actively get Ewen McGregor back to voice the Rebels Obi-Wan.

So far, it was done by the same voice actor who did him in the clone Wars (whose name escapes me, apologies)...

So there has to be a call for him to be recruiting, after all.

As much as I like Ewan Mcgregor, I really like the guy who did it in clone wars....

*google search*

James Arnold Taylor! There it is!

Well, Dave Filoni has been trying to actively get Ewen McGregor back to voice the Rebels Obi-Wan.

So far, it was done by the same voice actor who did him in the clone Wars (whose name escapes me, apologies)...

So there has to be a call for him to be recruiting, after all.

As much as I like Ewan Mcgregor, I really like the guy who did it in clone wars....

*google search*

James Arnold Taylor! There it is!

Basically this.

James Arnold Taylor had so much more time with the character than Ewan McGregor did - he definitely feels more like who I think of when I think "Obi Wan".

Similarly - Matt Lanter is definitely more the voice of Anakin that I think works (and so I'm glad they brought him back for 'Rebels') over Hayden Christensen.

I seem to remember James Arnold Taylor voiced "these our your first steps" in Ep. 7 before they brought Ewan Mcgregor in.

Honestly, I have to say that Obi-Wan is a shining example of multiple actors taking on the same role and making the transition as smooth as possible for the viewer. Just my opinion anyway.

In contrast, Matt Lanter is far and away the best Anakin, and I wouldn't mind him dubbing over Hayden's lines in the inevitable special editions.

I seem to remember James Arnold Taylor voiced "these our your first steps" in Ep. 7 before they brought Ewan Mcgregor in.

Honestly, I have to say that Obi-Wan is a shining example of multiple actors taking on the same role and making the transition as smooth as possible for the viewer. Just my opinion anyway.

In contrast, Matt Lanter is far and away the best Anakin, and I wouldn't mind him dubbing over Hayden's lines in the inevitable special editions.

Honestly I think Matt Lanter kinda looks like a better version of Hayden, and Im one of those weirdos that like the prequels

The main difference between Taylor and MacGregor is simple:

Taylor's Obi-Wan sounded snarky and irreverent when he had an offbeat line.

MacGregor's sounded whiny and scared when he had an offbeat line.

Compare the Obi-Wan lines from the first half hour of Episode 3 and TCW 1-12, "Gungan General" and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Now, that could just come down to direction and writing, and Lucas is famously bad at both, but there is potential in some of the Revenge of the Sith lines which are just wasted.