Helisabres...

I think we can all agree on that one.

I kinda think the show runners give the fans a nod by having the last inquisitor die ignominiously because he relied on his silly helisaber.

I want to think if the showrunners were going to nod at the fans, they'd have never had helisabers in the first place, lol.

The helisabers more or less singlehandedly ruined any attempts at a serious tone for that episode. Every time the viewer was like "Wow, this is getting intense" some goofball came flying in all "Wheeeeeeeeee!" like he was some little pig on his way home.

And why does he have a circular saw on his lightsaber?

Yo Dawg, I heard you liked cutting stuff. So we put a cutting bit on your cutting bit.

II had to keep myself from laughing at that episode to avoid irritating my neighbor who loves the show.

Hopefully the Inquisitors are all actually for really reals dead. The show can only improve because of it. Hopefully Ahsoka too. Characters who can't have the good grace to die when it's their time to die are the bane of good storytelling.

This would make me sad:

End of Star Wars Rebels Could Be Coming Sooner Than Anyone Expected

Maybe it's just an April Fools.

http://thesaltroom.ca/

Still not enuff salt.

As much as the helisabers messed with the tone of the episode, I was actually more annoyed with Ezra's "I need more training" after Ahsoka and Vader's initial clash.

I will agree that I didn't mind the helisaber when the gecko guy used it. It's really when the other two are floating in on them that I had that 'wut' moment.

As much as the helisabers messed with the tone of the episode, I was actually more annoyed with Ezra's "I need more training" after Ahsoka and Vader's initial clash.

I will agree that I didn't mind the helisaber when the gecko guy used it. It's really when the other two are floating in on them that I had that 'wut' moment.

It does seem like it would lead to the Inquisitors doing a team rocket-sque intro speech....

Man. 7th Sister or Jessie.

Tough call.

They needed the inquisitors to quickly keep popping up on every level as they made their way up from the basement to the top of the temple. Maybe it would have been better if they just appeared and didn't try to explain how they ninja'd their way so quickly into the rebels path.

What is it with Star Wars and threes? Movie trilogies.....3 seasons of Rebels....6 seasons of The Clone Wars? What are they, Minbari or something?

They needed the inquisitors to quickly keep popping up on every level as they made their way up from the basement to the top of the temple. Maybe it would have been better if they just appeared and didn't try to explain how they ninja'd their way so quickly into the rebels path.

That doesn't cut it. They could have platform jumped on temple columns...

Until you actually train with a sword. Then the magic just dies.

Real swords aren't made of light and have actual weight.

That's just like lightsabers!

Nah, seriously, they cannot be made of light just like turbolasers cannot be real lasers. And they clearly have weight, maybe simulated by some forcefield of whatever, but they don't behave like weightless objects.

Buut, having or not having mass or a blade made of light doesn't change the fact that reverse grip is useless with any weapon longer than a knife.

But it looks cool. I like it

Blade doesn't have weight, but hilt had powerful gyroscopes which exerted tremendous force meaning you needed strength to wield them. At least in old canon.

This would make me sad:

End of Star Wars Rebels Could Be Coming Sooner Than Anyone Expected

Maybe it's just an April Fools.

This wouldn't be so bad. I'd rather have a solid definitive ending that satisfies in a reasonable timeframe than something drawn out and padded for filler. Anime has made me weary of anything over 26 episodes.

Plus, time skips let characters really evolve and find some happiness. The longer a series drags on the more you get the need for retcons, reversions, make up break up relationships and all the other annoyances. Time skips let you return to a character whose struggles actually paid off where otherwise we're stuck with a lot of (comic) characters whose stories amount to "life sucked, then they died".

I mean, Rebels let Ahsoka be so much more than she ever could have been confined to Clone Wars. I feel much of the crew of the Ghost are in a similar position. Given one more great season, I'd be happy to revisit them again in the post rebellion era, even if it was through someone else's story.

Until you actually train with a sword. Then the magic just dies.

Real swords aren't made of light and have actual weight.

That's just like lightsabers!

Nah, seriously, they cannot be made of light just like turbolasers cannot be real lasers. And they clearly have weight, maybe simulated by some forcefield of whatever, but they don't behave like weightless objects.

Buut, having or not having mass or a blade made of light doesn't change the fact that reverse grip is useless with any weapon longer than a knife.

But it looks cool. I like it

Agreed, though I feel the need to remind people that some lightsabres had adjustable lengths..

From what I recall of the inner workings of a lightsaber, the blade was actually plasma encased in a magnetic field. Plasma does not have volume or mass unless in a container, similar to gas. Being encased in a magnetic field would give it that volume and mass as well as explain why Lightsaber blades wanted to repel each other and why it took effort to keep the blades together.

This basically meant whenever the blades clashed for a number of moments it was both opponents trying to force the other person to lose their footing and get repelled, leaving them with an opening for attack.

So if the blade is still considered to be plasma and it is technically possible for a force user to hover/float slowly with the force, then using the force to blow air into their spinning blade would give them speed and direction.

My thoughts are:

1. That the Inquisitors needed these blades to spin as fast as they do to ever pull this feat off, that Maul wouldn't be able to achieve it with his non-spinning blade due to the concentration needed just to maintain afloat.

and

2. It is potentially possible that they were able to achieve greater feats on this planet because it is a dark side force nexus. Helicopter sabers were never a thing until this episode, on this planet.

Until you actually train with a sword. Then the magic just dies.

Real swords aren't made of light and have actual weight.

That's just like lightsabers!

Nah, seriously, they cannot be made of light just like turbolasers cannot be real lasers. And they clearly have weight, maybe simulated by some forcefield of whatever, but they don't behave like weightless objects.

Buut, having or not having mass or a blade made of light doesn't change the fact that reverse grip is useless with any weapon longer than a knife.

But it looks cool. I like it

Agreed, though I feel the need to remind people that some lightsabres had adjustable lengths..

Lightsabers, despite the name, are made of plasma which is a form of matter and therefor has mass. That being said its long been established that the Star Wars universe does not follow the same laws of physics that ours does, the fact that we have a dogfighting space battle game from it shows that and physics get even more muddled even in universe when ever the force is involved. Its also well established that force sensitivity is required both to make and to wield lightsabers so you are literally trying to argue on the physics of magic.

This would make me sad:

End of Star Wars Rebels Could Be Coming Sooner Than Anyone Expected

Maybe it's just an April Fools.

Makes me really happy.

Give the kids star wars detours and lego, and get back to the clone wars style.

Helisabers - you guys seriously have a problem with their existence?

1) We know that the Inquisitors are weaker Force users than the actual Jedi they're hunting, that's why the fancy blades.

2) We know that their blades include repulsorlift technology to make them spin.

3) If they're weaker Force users, they probably have difficulty with Force jumping and use the blades to enhance that.

I neither liked or disliked them, but I saw how it was a natural extension of what we already knew Inq. sabers did.

The pointless sawblades on the other hand... feh.

If Ahsoka survived she's out of the story, so real need to feel sore - even if I am the first one who said, "DEATH FLAGS EVERYWHERE!"

I'm looking forward to the next season.

As much as the helisabers messed with the tone of the episode, I was actually more annoyed with Ezra's "I need more training" after Ahsoka and Vader's initial clash.

I will agree that I didn't mind the helisaber when the gecko guy used it. It's really when the other two are floating in on them that I had that 'wut' moment.

It does seem like it would lead to the Inquisitors doing a team rocket-sque intro speech....

Man. 7th Sister or Jessie.

Tough call.

7th sister, man. She's got that black sclera, cool voice and is apparently fairly flexible.

Also she's evil.

I'd love to see Episode 8 reveal that Luke has been hanging out with an elderly Ahsoka for twenty years.

A few scattered thoughts:
1: Perhaps the 'saw blade' on the inquisitor's lightsaber is something to do with how they fly (extendign the repulsor field, or funneling air into the blades or some such), and he was just using it as a threat.
2: While I very much like Ashoka, I sort of wish she had died. IF she comes right back next season I feel it will take the weight out of that encounter. If she is gone from rebels, I will want a good reason for her departure... and in the most meta way: I dread that she will return in some poorly written hackjob of a novel and I don't want to have to read any more of those.
TBH after the rebel's recon mocking of fan speculation that there would be a big stand off between Vader and Snips I was a little suprised it happened and was so... streightforward.

They can get Kanan cybernetics right? I mean Wolfe has a cyber-eye and he got that years ago, why not Kanan?

I feel like they're going to use the "old standby must cope with new disability" hook for a while, but in the end there's not much reason to put off getting prosthesis unless you just want to Kota it everywhere.

Also, you know this leaves Agent Kallus as the last villain standing. (Vader doesn't count.)

Don't forget Tarkin, the Admiral (from the interdictor episode) and Lt Lyste.

...

Maybe we will get him in Scum fraction, if he tries to restart the little business enterprise he left when **** hit the fan on Mandalore back in the days of the Clone Wars.

Didn't all of Maul's followers either get slaughtered or turn on him by the end of Sons of Dathomir?... pointless as that story was.

Maul and Sabije will both be big parts of season 3? Will Maul return to Mandalore? Will he be an annoying team rocket type character, fumbling into the rebels plans? Speculation!!

That reminds me. Maul doesn't seem to have the Darksaber anymore. I wonder what happened to it.

Until you actually train with a sword. Then the magic just dies.

Real swords aren't made of light and have actual weight.

It's not the weight of the blade which makes reverse grips weird its the leverage. Try holding a broom handel like a sword, give it a few test swings, and get someone to push it towards you as though they hit it with another sword. Your hand and arm will easily compensate for the pressure.
Now try gripping it down handle, and try the same. Its VERY hard to have the same control, strength and speed, with the blade in that possiton. Daggers work, because attacks hitting the blade don't have a lot of leverage, but with a longer weapon you are better off laying the blade up the back of the arm and essentially parrying with the arm as a whole... which would result in a great deal of burny pain with a lightsaber.
TBH though, it doesnt bother me much in starwars. Most of the sword work is dubious at best (it's just silly flashy show fighting dialled up to 11)..

Until you actually train with a sword. Then the magic just dies.

Real swords aren't made of light and have actual weight.

It's much more to do with reach and control of the tip. Reverse grip severely restricts your reach which, in open space one-on-one melee, is very important. Tip control is how you control deflection and parry. Again, this is restricted.

Reverse grip can protect your side (that you have the weapon on) to a certain extent, but I'd much rather have reach and control than that.

And frankly, in knife fighting you STILL hold it regularly; reverse grip is dumb for all the same reasons. Real fighting knives are point weapons (or piercing if you play too much D&D3.5), where you use the shortened blade and greater leverage to press forward and go through your target.

I'm trying to think of when the reverse grip would actually come in handy (in lightsaber fights), and it may make slashes faster to do because instead of moving your whole arm to make a slash it's just forearm and wrist action; and since the 'blade' has just the weight of the handle if you need to block or stab you can just twirl it in your fingers. Ahsoka does that several times in the course of that fight.

Lightsabers are probably better as slashing rather than stabbing, because poking a hole may not be large enough to put someone down unless you hit something immediately vital, whereas a slash could remove a limb or torso, as Darth Maul found out.

Seriously, try it right now at your desk! pretend you're holding a lightsaber and wave it like you're cutting someone Ahsoka-style than Vader style. Lot faster and less motion involved with Ahsoka-style.

Great episode, except for the laughable flying monkeys.

I thought the whole reverse grip thing was only a stance. I may be wrong (I don't remember this much detail from the episode), but didn't Kanan change is grip to his normal fighting style after maul attacked? Even Ahsoka changes the grip a few times while fighting (again, don't remember every detail).

Really, reverse grip does absolutely nothing for the user. It is only good for a brief stab behind yourself, which is still pretty unlikely.

Gives you no advantages over your opponent at all.

I don't see any problem with the saw blade on the lightsaber handle. A lightsaber causes clean wounds that immediatly get cauterized, a crude saw blade does terrible and painfull things. Its not a better weapon, but it will cause a lot more terror when used to threaten or torture someone.