Did you guys not pay attention to the episode when she explains that Zeb was all 3 of them in turn?

This is true, but the main part of the prophecy stated that the fool would lead the warrior to the child in order to destroy him. To find Lirasan the child must save the warrior and the fool.

Hondo led Kallus to Zeb and the Ghost crew. Kallus intended to capture them, but ended up allowing them to be destroyed by the star cluster. Zeb then misled Kallus into leaving because Kallus believed he and the crew were going to be destroyed thus saving him and Hondo.

Path to Lirasan found, prophecy fulfilled.

Kallus needs to defect to the Rebellion.

I wonder why the writers like changing ship class backgrounds so much? They changed the A-Wing and the B-Wing backgrounds and now they have changed the Quasar Fire class from a civilian bulk cruiser that the rebels often converted into carriers to an Imperial carrier.

There's a discussion on this a few pages back and I believe they even touch on it in the latest Rebels Recon. Its basically because the ship falls into the classic Imperial triangle design rather than organic rebel ship design, but because it was a rebel ship in the old EU they had to somehow make it a rebel ship in the current canon in some way, shape, or form. The A-wing has remained pretty close to the old EU, in which they were R-22 Spearheads pre-Yavin instead of the current canon's RZ-1 A wings. I don't think much has changed with the B-wing's origin other than the time it was designed and the engineer who designed it.

I'm actually pretty happy the Quasar is now an Imperial ship to 'replace' that old floating brick as the Empire's go-to carrier.

Even though the old brick is canon as well. And I still find it odd that they changed the B-Wing's designer. There were two major characters in the films that Legends established as ship designers, Ackbar and Tarkin. Tarkin still is one in the new canon even if the ship he is stated to have designed is different so I'm curious if they'll do that with Ackbar as well since they decided to cut him from the B-Wing design. To me little details like who designed what ships are the kind of things that should easily transition from Legends to Canon.

So what was Cham's ship? That thing was amazing and I REALLLLLLY hope they put it in X-Wing! A Single-Ship-Carrier would be so awesome! Deploy 1 docked ship after you complete a maneuver!

Also the idea of loading up bombs on a ship and crashing it into the enemy - kamikaze tactics would be pretty sweet as well.

"After performing a maneuver, if you are touching another ship, deal that ship 1 face-down damage card for each equipped [Missile],[Torpedo] and [bomb] upgrade on your ship. Then destroy your ship."

To preserve the intent of Extra Munitions: "After performing a maneuver, if you are touching an enemy ship, you may discard any number of equipped [bomb] upgrades or [missile] or [torp] secondary weapons. If you do, the ship you are touching suffers one damage plus one damage for every card discarded in this way. Then destroy your ship."

But if you're going to be destroyed anyway, why wouldn't you just discard everything you had left?

So what was Cham's ship? That thing was amazing and I REALLLLLLY hope they put it in X-Wing! A Single-Ship-Carrier would be so awesome! Deploy 1 docked ship after you complete a maneuver!

Also the idea of loading up bombs on a ship and crashing it into the enemy - kamikaze tactics would be pretty sweet as well.

"After performing a maneuver, if you are touching another ship, deal that ship 1 face-down damage card for each equipped [Missile],[Torpedo] and [bomb] upgrade on your ship. Then destroy your ship."

To preserve the intent of Extra Munitions: "After performing a maneuver, if you are touching an enemy ship, you may discard any number of equipped [bomb] upgrades or [missile] or [torp] secondary weapons. If you do, the ship you are touching suffers one damage plus one damage for every card discarded in this way. Then destroy your ship."

But if you're going to be destroyed anyway, why wouldn't you just discard everything you had left?

Because, by wording it the first way, you'd cause one damage for each upgrade, regardless of if you had extra munitions tokens left or not. By wording it the second way, you'd first discard the tokens for one damage each, then discard the upgrade cards for another damage each, then blow yourself up.

I wonder why the writers like changing ship class backgrounds so much? They changed the A-Wing and the B-Wing backgrounds and now they have changed the Quasar Fire class from a civilian bulk cruiser that the rebels often converted into carriers to an Imperial carrier.

There's a discussion on this a few pages back and I believe they even touch on it in the latest Rebels Recon. Its basically because the ship falls into the classic Imperial triangle design rather than organic rebel ship design, but because it was a rebel ship in the old EU they had to somehow make it a rebel ship in the current canon in some way, shape, or form. The A-wing has remained pretty close to the old EU, in which they were R-22 Spearheads pre-Yavin instead of the current canon's RZ-1 A wings. I don't think much has changed with the B-wing's origin other than the time it was designed and the engineer who designed it.

I'm actually pretty happy the Quasar is now an Imperial ship to 'replace' that old floating brick as the Empire's go-to carrier.

Even though the old brick is canon as well. And I still find it odd that they changed the B-Wing's designer. There were two major characters in the films that Legends established as ship designers, Ackbar and Tarkin. Tarkin still is one in the new canon even if the ship he is stated to have designed is different so I'm curious if they'll do that with Ackbar as well since they decided to cut him from the B-Wing design. To me little details like who designed what ships are the kind of things that should easily transition from Legends to Canon.

Because Ackbar didn't design the B-Wing before the war, and this one was designed before the GCW.

They clearly want him to do bigger and better things... And, after all- shouldn't he?

Did you guys not pay attention to the episode when she explains that Zeb was all 3 of them in turn?

This is true, but the main part of the prophecy stated that the fool would lead the warrior to the child in order to destroy him. To find Lirasan the child must save the warrior and the fool.

Hondo led Kallus to Zeb and the Ghost crew. Kallus intended to capture them, but ended up allowing them to be destroyed by the star cluster. Zeb then misled Kallus into leaving because Kallus believed he and the crew were going to be destroyed thus saving him and Hondo.

Path to Lirasan found, prophecy fulfilled.

Kallus needs to defect to the Rebellion.

I wonder why the writers like changing ship class backgrounds so much? They changed the A-Wing and the B-Wing backgrounds and now they have changed the Quasar Fire class from a civilian bulk cruiser that the rebels often converted into carriers to an Imperial carrier.

There's a discussion on this a few pages back and I believe they even touch on it in the latest Rebels Recon. Its basically because the ship falls into the classic Imperial triangle design rather than organic rebel ship design, but because it was a rebel ship in the old EU they had to somehow make it a rebel ship in the current canon in some way, shape, or form. The A-wing has remained pretty close to the old EU, in which they were R-22 Spearheads pre-Yavin instead of the current canon's RZ-1 A wings. I don't think much has changed with the B-wing's origin other than the time it was designed and the engineer who designed it.

I'm actually pretty happy the Quasar is now an Imperial ship to 'replace' that old floating brick as the Empire's go-to carrier.

Even though the old brick is canon as well. And I still find it odd that they changed the B-Wing's designer. There were two major characters in the films that Legends established as ship designers, Ackbar and Tarkin. Tarkin still is one in the new canon even if the ship he is stated to have designed is different so I'm curious if they'll do that with Ackbar as well since they decided to cut him from the B-Wing design. To me little details like who designed what ships are the kind of things that should easily transition from Legends to Canon.

Because Ackbar didn't design the B-Wing before the war, and this one was designed before the GCW.

They clearly want him to do bigger and better things... And, after all- shouldn't he?

Maybe he'll help design the 80s this time?

Did you guys not pay attention to the episode when she explains that Zeb was all 3 of them in turn?

Did you also not pay attention when the mystic says: "the fool has set things in motion" and it cuts to Hondo?

I do agree that the prophecy could very well be wrapped up there, but considering prophecies can be interpreted many ways, Zeb is the warrior, child, and fool at once/Hondo, Kallus, and Zeb each play a role. I just think it would be interesting to revisit the prophecy, considering so many people want a multiple episode arc.

We are all warriors, children and fools at different points in our lives. Was that not the point?

I wonder why the writers like changing ship class backgrounds so much? They changed the A-Wing and the B-Wing backgrounds and now they have changed the Quasar Fire class from a civilian bulk cruiser that the rebels often converted into carriers to an Imperial carrier.

There's a discussion on this a few pages back and I believe they even touch on it in the latest Rebels Recon. Its basically because the ship falls into the classic Imperial triangle design rather than organic rebel ship design, but because it was a rebel ship in the old EU they had to somehow make it a rebel ship in the current canon in some way, shape, or form. The A-wing has remained pretty close to the old EU, in which they were R-22 Spearheads pre-Yavin instead of the current canon's RZ-1 A wings. I don't think much has changed with the B-wing's origin other than the time it was designed and the engineer who designed it.

I'm actually pretty happy the Quasar is now an Imperial ship to 'replace' that old floating brick as the Empire's go-to carrier.

Even though the old brick is canon as well. And I still find it odd that they changed the B-Wing's designer. There were two major characters in the films that Legends established as ship designers, Ackbar and Tarkin. Tarkin still is one in the new canon even if the ship he is stated to have designed is different so I'm curious if they'll do that with Ackbar as well since they decided to cut him from the B-Wing design. To me little details like who designed what ships are the kind of things that should easily transition from Legends to Canon.

The problem with doing that is it makes a galaxy of billions (at least) sapient beings, the only ones that EVER do anyrhing are people that had 2 seconds or more of screen time in a movie. Ackbar was Tarkin's personal

Slave, designed the b-wing, AND commanded the alliance fleet. Too many things for one character. By divvying these up (or ignoring them) you can focus on a few key details and make a better written character, rather than have every character be two degrees of seperation from any other on screen character.

Space is Really big. There are lots of stories and characters to develop.

On the topic of the tonight's eposode, was Hera's accent reversion really necessary? That was the only thing I actually disliked about the episode next to Cham being an absolute jerk.

Anyways, maybe now since they have a carrier Phoenix Squadron will stop dropping like flies. They've lost so many fighters that, from what I could see, they only occupied 1 of the 4 hangars.

Oh and yay for mouse droids and tie racks!

And Yay for the TIE Bombers. I think that was their first appearance. Correct me if I'm wrong on that account.

Kallus needs to defect to the Rebellion.

Kaullus was responsible for the genocide of the Lasat. I don't think he's keen to defect, nor would the rebels be keen to take him in.

Kallus needs to defect to the Rebellion.

Yes, clearly the rebels need a commander that is completely unable to win. Then the Empire can reign supreme!

I just rewatched the two "Empire Day" episodes, Kallus was actaully cool back then. In season 2 though.... no so much.

On the topic of the tonight's eposode, was Hera's accent reversion really necessary? That was the only thing I actually disliked about the episode next to Cham being an absolute jerk.

Anyways, maybe now since they have a carrier Phoenix Squadron will stop dropping like flies. They've lost so many fighters that, from what I could see, they only occupied 1 of the 4 hangars.

Oh and yay for mouse droids and tie racks!

And Yay for the TIE Bombers. I think that was their first appearance. Correct me if I'm wrong on that account.

Tie Shuttle too! They look awful roomy inside. Not sure why the Emperor can't sit his old butt in one with a couple Royal Guards.

On the topic of the tonight's eposode, was Hera's accent reversion really necessary? That was the only thing I actually disliked about the episode next to Cham being an absolute jerk.

Anyways, maybe now since they have a carrier Phoenix Squadron will stop dropping like flies. They've lost so many fighters that, from what I could see, they only occupied 1 of the 4 hangars.

Oh and yay for mouse droids and tie racks!

And Yay for the TIE Bombers. I think that was their first appearance. Correct me if I'm wrong on that account.

Tie Shuttle too! They look awful rooming inside. Not sure why the Emperor can't sit his old butt in one with a couple Royal Guards.

TIE Shuttle - AT2 AG2 HL6 SH0

Lambda-class Shuttle - AT3 AG1 HL5 SH5

Extra firepower and shileds = extra protection.

Also Lambda's look way cooler (I'm not biased...)

Did you also not pay attention when the mystic says: "the fool has set things in motion" and it cuts to Hondo?

Yes. It's called misdirection. You're supposed to spend the episode trying to figure out who the 3 are.

Until the end of the episode, when the character straight up tells you who they are. That Zeb is all of them.

I'm reminded somewhat of this:

"After performing a maneuver, if you are touching another ship, deal that ship 1 face-down damage card for each equipped [Missile],[Torpedo] and [bomb] upgrade on your ship. Then destroy your ship."

To preserve the intent of Extra Munitions: "After performing a maneuver, if you are touching an enemy ship, you may discard any number of equipped [bomb] upgrades or [missile] or [torp] secondary weapons. If you do, the ship you are touching suffers one damage plus one damage for every card discarded in this way. Then destroy your ship."

But if you're going to be destroyed anyway, why wouldn't you just discard everything you had left?

Because, by wording it the first way, you'd cause one damage for each upgrade, regardless of if you had extra munitions tokens left or not. By wording it the second way, you'd first discard the tokens for one damage each, then discard the upgrade cards for another damage each, then blow yourself up.

Also, the original wording would have caused a damage for torpedo and missile upgrade cards that aren't weapons themselves, like Extra Munitions and Chardaan Refit.

And Yay for the TIE Bombers. I think that was their first appearance. Correct me if I'm wrong on that account.

I believe the first full appearance of them. Though a schematic for them showed up in the episode when they were stealing a bunch of data from the Empire.

Did you also not pay attention when the mystic says: "the fool has set things in motion" and it cuts to Hondo?

Yes. It's called misdirection. You're supposed to spend the episode trying to figure out who the 3 are.

Until the end of the episode, when the character straight up tells you who they are. That Zeb is all of them.

I kind of wish you used my whole quote, rather than just the pieces that seemingly validate your argument. I acknowledge this fact in the unquoted section if that post. I was merely stating that it COULD be interesting if the events from the episode, that were seemingly tied up and resolved, turned out to NOT be such.

Did you also not pay attention when the mystic says: "the fool has set things in motion" and it cuts to Hondo?

Yes. It's called misdirection. You're supposed to spend the episode trying to figure out who the 3 are.

Until the end of the episode, when the character straight up tells you who they are. That Zeb is all of them.

As I said in my previous post more connections can be drawn between the characters and their respective parts in the prophecy than to Zeb being all 3. Zeb even says as soon as Kallus and Hondo retreat "I've found it, the way through" showing that the prophecy had been fulfilled.

Now ask yourself if it makes any sense for Zeb to lead Zeb to Zeb to destroy Zeb and for Zeb to save Zeb and Zeb in order to find the path to Lirasan. No, it doesn't sound right because the prophecy isn't about Zeb alone, the text in the prophecy is meant to parallel the events of the chase, which requires 3 separate characters.

I kinda hope that Kallus does defect and become a good guy.

Redemption against impossible odds is very Star Wars.

"After performing a maneuver, if you are touching another ship, deal that ship 1 face-down damage card for each equipped [Missile],[Torpedo] and [bomb] upgrade on your ship. Then destroy your ship."

To preserve the intent of Extra Munitions: "After performing a maneuver, if you are touching an enemy ship, you may discard any number of equipped [bomb] upgrades or [missile] or [torp] secondary weapons. If you do, the ship you are touching suffers one damage plus one damage for every card discarded in this way. Then destroy your ship."

But if you're going to be destroyed anyway, why wouldn't you just discard everything you had left?

Because, by wording it the first way, you'd cause one damage for each upgrade, regardless of if you had extra munitions tokens left or not. By wording it the second way, you'd first discard the tokens for one damage each, then discard the upgrade cards for another damage each, then blow yourself up.

Also, the original wording would have caused a damage for torpedo and missile upgrade cards that aren't weapons themselves, like Extra Munitions and Chardaan Refit.

Well, I agree with Chardaan Refit, but Extra Munitions should blow up. It's literally more munitions!