Not sure why people think the "Old Master" is Darth Maul. He was never the master. He was Darth Sidious apprentice. The "Old Master" is Darth Plagueis whom discovered the secret of immortality.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis

Maul was master to Savage Oppress during the Clone Wars, but that's beside the point.

Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create...life. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about...from dying. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power... which, eventually of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death... but not himself.

Plagueis is dead. It's right there in the text. There's nothing there that suggests that he discovered the secret of immortality. Quite the opposite, in fact. Palpatine goes out of his way to note that he could save others from death but not himself.

I'm 100% certain that Lucas did this deliberately to contrast with the revelation at the end of the movie that Qui-Gon has discovered a way to retain his consciousness within the Force... to become immortal, effectively, through embracing the Living Force and balance within it, which is what Qui-Gon represented in The Phantom Menace , and what Yoda and Obi-Wan learn.*

I'm constantly confused by people's desire to see Darth Plagueis – a minor character at best who was mentioned once, in the dialogue above – come to prominence in the saga. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

I'm constantly confused by people's desire to see Darth Plagueis – a minor character at best who was mentioned once, in the dialogue above – come to prominence in the saga. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

I think you mean Snokes for different folks.

I'm constantly confused by people's desire to see Darth Plagueis – a minor character at best who was mentioned once, in the dialogue above – come to prominence in the saga. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

I think you mean Snokes for different folks.

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Anybody else catch an important detail; Sabine said her family was from Clan Ren, as in Kylo the Emo Sith Boy.

Also, I want the maneuver that lets me immediately flip behind a fighter that's tailing me, like they did on TV.

Wren

All this talk of the new Mandalorian fighter and no one has said the obvious. And that is that this fighter will be the first(fighter size) that is cross factional between Scum and Empire! I'm so looking forward to flying these awesome little Mando fighters alongside my Tie Interceptors.

This post is only partially tongue in cheek. I do think there should be more Scum/empire cross over, other than the Firespray. This ship, the Skipray, etc. There are 3 Rebel/Scum crossovers and only 1 Empire/Scum. Unfair!

All this talk of the new Mandalorian fighter and no one has said the obvious. And that is that this fighter will be the first(fighter size) that is cross factional between Scum and Empire! I'm so looking forward to flying these awesome little Mando fighters alongside my Tie Interceptors.

This post is only partially tongue in cheek. I do think there should be more Scum/empire cross over, other than the Firespray. This ship, the Skipray, etc. There are 3 Rebel/Scum crossovers and only 1 Empire/Scum. Unfair!

I say, let all three have it.

Considering the alignment shift.

There's a preview up for the next episode "Legends of Lasat". Best part is....we get more Hondo!!!

All this talk of the new Mandalorian fighter and no one has said the obvious. And that is that this fighter will be the first(fighter size) that is cross factional between Scum and Empire! I'm so looking forward to flying these awesome little Mando fighters alongside my Tie Interceptors.

This post is only partially tongue in cheek. I do think there should be more Scum/empire cross over, other than the Firespray. This ship, the Skipray, etc. There are 3 Rebel/Scum crossovers and only 1 Empire/Scum. Unfair!

I say, let all three have it.

Considering the alignment shift.

I don't really think there was an "alliance" there, per se. It was more like a I don't see you, you don't see me relationship.

Pretty much yeah.

But I'm fairly certain that Mandalorians, with their codes of honor, will end up helping The Rebellion.

WHICH WOULD BE SO COOL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anybody else catch an important detail; Sabine said her family was from Clan Ren, as in Kylo the Emo Sith Boy.

Also, I want the maneuver that lets me immediately flip behind a fighter that's tailing me, like they did on TV.

Wren

Damned right. If it was Ren then that's how Disney would have told FFG to spell her name on the cards for X-Wing.

Anybody else catch an important detail; Sabine said her family was from Clan Ren, as in Kylo the Emo Sith Boy.

Subtitles, Databank, etc say Wren, not Ren.

I chose to believe what I chose to believe. Plus, the Databank has been wrong before.

Translation: I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Mandalorians will always be Scum, no matter what side they fight for at the moment.

I'm constantly confused by people's desire to see Darth Plagueis – a minor character at best who was mentioned once, in the dialogue above – come to prominence in the saga. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

I think you mean Snokes for different folks.

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Mandalorians will always be Scum, no matter what side they fight for at the moment.

In the episode, Fenn Rau very clearly states he's on the Empire's side. So Scum or not, they should also be Empire.

On the other hand, the Empire is clearly paying them. So, still pretty much Scum.

Google, Amazon and ITunes have decided to make the rest of session 2 into session 3 to invalidate our session 2 passes. Guess I'm done with the show for good.

The Old Master in the trailer is Maul but I think it is a vision, like Obi-Ghost or the Inquisitor in the cave

But Sam Witwer (Voice of Maul in the Clone Wars) is doing the voice

For the Mandalorian starship

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kom'rk-class_fighter/transport

The one on the show is different from this link above

At first I thought this was was the MandalMotors Scyk or a version of it but it is a different ship

I'm sure like most things in rebels this will be in X-wings

Any speculation???

I have one...

Crew - Imperial Arrangements -- Imperial Only -- 3 points -- You can add up-to 3 non-unique Scum Pilots to your Squad

In the episode, Fenn Rau very clearly states he's on the Empire's side.

For money. Making him a hired mercenary.

This episode also reinforces how much I love the portrayal of Hera and Kanan's relationship. So obviously a couple, but nothing "obvious" like kissing.

On the other hand, the Empire is clearly paying them. So, still pretty much Scum.

True, but don't you think a true "Scum only" faction would hear out the Rebels counter offer before deciding. What if the Rebels were paying more? Or better yet, take both factions money and then turn the Rebels over to the Empire. Also on a different line of thinking, Imperial Boba Fett is just Scum the Empire is paying, so that actually helps my idea of them on the Empire's side. The Empire pays more, so they're Empire.

Except many think the Imperial Firespray was a mistake. It probably wouldn't have been Imperial if they thought they were going to do a third faction back then.

In the episode, Fenn Rau very clearly states he's on the Empire's side.

For money. Making him a hired mercenary.

So was/is Imperial Boba. That strengthens my argument for being cross factional. They are working for the Empire(so Empire faction) for money.( so Scum faction) Cross factionally confirmed! ;-)

Except many think the Imperial Firespray was a mistake. It probably wouldn't have been Imperial if they thought they were going to do a third faction back then.

Just because some on this forum think something is true or should have been or whatever, doesn't invalidate Imperial Boba as a viable ship. His somewhat crappy ability kinda does, but that's not the point.

Kinda tangential, if they ever did an aces style expansion for a large ship, I would want the first one to be the Firespray, for this very reason. Give it an Imperial paint job and include some generic pilots like "System Patrol Officer" and "ISB Prisoner Transport Offier", plus a few named pilots with Imperial ranks.

Then, since a single large ship isn't much of an aces pack (since they seem to come with 2 ships, but you couldn't do that with a large), also include some scum pilots.

True, but don't you think a true "Scum only" faction would hear out the Rebels counter offer before deciding. What if the Rebels were paying more?

Also on a different line of thinking, Imperial Boba Fett is just Scum the Empire is paying, so that actually helps my idea of them on the Empire's side.

Every bounty hunter that was in ESB working for the Empire is in the game at this point. All of them are Scum faction.

If you aren't Imperial military, you aren't Empire faction.