16 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

No doubt. I'd be pleased as punch with a young Lor San Tekka being a recurring character and rival in a Doctor Aphra show. In some ways, he'd almost be better as the too-clean, too-good rival who keeps getting the upper hand on Aphra here and there. It's often really fun to have a hero filling the narrative role of the antagonist.

And imagine if you bring back Ketsu Onyo as a co-star. Or just some sort of Scummy Anthology-type show, more like Clone Wars, where you often had large stretches without Anakin or Obi-Wan. Aphra, Ketsu, and Lor San Tekka as the three "mains" but really you probably only get one or another here and there. Get some Zuckuss and 4-LOM. Resolve some of the Mandalor threads which will be left hanging in Rebels.

Part of the appeal of a LST show, however, is you can set it between 6 & 7. That's not necessarily better than an Aphra show in the span between 4 & 5 & 6, but it's a time-span less familiar to most.

If you don’t have Ponda Baba and Dr.Evazan then I don’t care.

And don’t tell me these two just died in the canteena, them Skywalker boys and Darth Maul got robot fixins after laser sword slice and dice.

Death sentence on twelve systems! Watch it go up every week. It’ll be hilarious!

2 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

If you don’t have Ponda Baba and Dr.Evazan then I don’t care.

And don’t tell me these two just died in the canteena, them Skywalker boys and Darth Maul got robot fixins after laser sword slice and dice.

Death sentence on twelve systems! Watch it go up every week. It’ll be hilarious!

The more the merrier. Just not like main cast. About as frequent as Hondo Onaka on Rebels is plenty.

12 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

I feel like a villain protagonist is probably a pretty hard to Disney to make a TV show out of.

Didn't Once Upon A Time last like 900 seasons or something? And Asajj was the center of a fair number of Clone Wars story arcs.

7 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

The more the merrier. Just not like main cast. About as frequent as Hondo Onaka on Rebels is plenty.

Didn't Once Upon A Time last like 900 seasons or something? And Asajj was the center of a fair number of Clone Wars story arcs.

I haven’t watched OUAT in a while, and Regina was definitely my favorite on there.

Asajj Ventress...yeah she was awesome. They could have done entire seasons with her and still have stuff left over. Having an off screen death was an injustice to her. Hey wait, is that canon anymore?

49 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

I haven’t watched OUAT in a while, and Regina was definitely my favorite on there.

Asajj Ventress...yeah she was awesome. They could have done entire seasons with her and still have stuff left over. Having an off screen death was an injustice to her. Hey wait, is that canon anymore?

Until such a time as disney decides to actually acknowledge the clone wars, yes.

37 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Until such a time as disney decides to actually acknowledge the clone wars, yes.

What do you mean? The Clone Wars are heavily referenced in the Rebels, with several characters and plot points carrying over.

9 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

What do you mean? The Clone Wars are heavily referenced in the Rebels, with several characters and plot points carrying over.

Outside of Dave Filoni's direct sphere of influence, Disney seems to have taken a hands off approach to any Pre-quel era material. (Up until recently)

This includes toys, merchandise, etc.

So until they decide to revisit the Vos/Ventress story, she's pretty much dead. (Which is really sad, I was hoping to have the ghost crew run into old ventress at some point.)

IIRC her death is definitely canon. Asajj deserved better and I'm still fuming about that. Apparently it's based off one of the cancelled arcs too.

There's been some prequel related stuff and references. I think they've been mostly fleshing out the OT and ST though because the prequels are probably still seen as quite toxic. Honestly, I think it was only Lucas pumping money into TCW that got us those stories. It's a shame because Lucas' PT concepts are actually pretty solid, he just needs other people with hands on the tiller when he's trying to execute them. Which is part of why I think Lucas' authority over the Clone Wars didn't damage it; ultimately, Lucas' final creative control was still limited.

I've said it elsewhere; Lucas is a great visionary (in a creative sense) but as a writer and director? Eh, not so much. I bet he's actually pretty fun to work with if you get a decent relationship with him.

I kind of respect him for selling off the Star Wars license, because I think as much as it's an emotionally wrought thing it shows a lot of maturity on his part to realise his universe has perhaps grown beyond something he's an effective auteur of. (and FWIW I've mixed feelings about a universe being the singular 'vision' of a single person anyway, especially when it's a film or TV show.)

18 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Outside of Dave Filoni's direct sphere of influence, Disney seems to have taken a hands off approach to any Pre-quel era material. (Up until recently)

This includes toys, merchandise, etc.

So until they decide to revisit the Vos/Ventress story, she's pretty much dead. (Which is really sad, I was hoping to have the ghost crew run into old ventress at some point.)

Well, that kind of makes sense. The OT era is generally the most popular, so it makes sense to do more with it and they need to flush out the sequel era to support the new trilogy.

But even then, there are still connections to Clone Wars characters in other books. Lords of the Sith have Cham Syndulla in it, and even the book with Ventress's death, Dark Diciple, is listed as a canon book.

While not referenced that often in some media, there is enough connections to the Clone Wars to say that Disney acknowledges it.

To me the force should be elusive, a non anthropomorphic trickster and *** like Yoda is to Luke. So I hope that the access points to the World Between Worlds, is highly limited.

To me its almost like seeing the coding of a computer, and once you figure out how to code you become god. For the record I don't think thats what the episode set up.

You can tune yourself to the force and bend it, but the force should never be able to be contained.

2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Speculation

A few of us wonder if they will recton the Dagobah and Ach - To caves to also be portals linked to the ‘World between Worlds.’

I'm quite happy for them to be connected to the WbW but I think their mystic force aspects should be a separate aspect or only tangentially related aspect to the time travel. I like the force having lots of facets an connections but I don't want the cosmic force to become a singular "thing".

8 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Until such a time as disney decides to actually acknowledge the clone wars, yes.

"This guy..."

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

"This guy..."

You really live up to your username sometimes, you know that?

That's Dave Filoni's sphere of influence on star wars. Yeah Disney has some input because the ratings and it's aired on (their) kids channel, but as far as story elements, as long as it fits to the story he's working on,(Helping Ezra come of age into being a jedi/adult in a war torn galaxy) he can bring it back. And I'm super happy about that. Rex was one of my favorite characters from the clone wars.

But you look at Disney as a whole, Especially the past two years, they have tried their best to steer clear of pre-quel content, except when they have to (TLJ Luke quote about Sheev and the Jedi counsel). I mean I would love a canon adaptation of the (now legends) Plagueis novel, Or maybe some more backstory on Jango, or Dooku, or Watching Qui-Gon train Obi-Wan, etc. And while I wouldn't expect an anthology movie to cover any of those topics (especially when Disney is still "testing the waters" with their shiny new franchise), I don't think it would be terribly hard to hire a writer (maybe the original author of said novel, like with Thrawn/Zahn) to update the canon in that area. Or at least finish out the clone wars. (I know, I don't expect it to make it to Tv, but it would be nice if the unfinished episodes were fully rendered in a DVD release, but I doubt with the new project in the works they'll ever have time to do that).

I don't think Disney hates the pre-quels, But it certainly feels like they are shunning them from the perspective of Disney as a whole: Rebels, forces of Destiny, The Ashoka novel and Darth Maul comic are great examples of where they are not.

TL;DR (because I tend to ramble when making paragraphs like this):

I'm not living up to my name on this one. If you truly believe Disney is actively avoiding the prequels, I don't really know how else to retort? Battlefront II 2, huge prequel content. Rebels, Forces of Destiny, the Ahsoka Novel, Maul comic, like you mentioned. How about the Mace Windu comic? The ones with obi-wan and Anakin? Maybe a nice big chunk of Kanan? There's some more out there dude. What about a few of those mobile games, no prequel content there right? Except, there totally is a huge load of it.

Disney is not ignoring and not acknowledging The Clone Wars. They're just focusing on things that we haven't been exposed to for the last fifteen frakkin' years. It's such an unfounded idea! They're just working on the ST and tying the OT into it- y'know how hard it is to tie the PT into the ST? Really damned hard!

And goodness sake, Ahsoka, one of the biggest symbols of the prequel trilogy, is alive! Ahsoka yet lives, dude. The character literally nobody asked for originally, but came to really love. Should I also highlight the bit in battlefront II 2's DLC where an entire security force used MOSTLY PT equipment? Should I emphasize that they got the Clone Wars voice actors for the B1s and the Clones?

TCW/PT is being given the background love it deserves while Disney cooks up their Star Wars. I heard these OT-ignoring complaints years ago with the PT.

Except that time it was comparatively valid. Even most of the games were prequel based.

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Ahsoka, one of the biggest symbols of the prequel trilogy,

I don't remember seeing Ahsoka in the prequel trilogy.

34 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I don't remember seeing Ahsoka in the prequel trilogy.

Prequel Era************

Uh, what were we talking about again?

Oh yeah, how we are all pedantic a-hole middle aged men who play with plastic space ships and argue about kids cartoons and movies, Disney stuff at that.

and yeah I’m right there with you.

13 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Uh, what were we talking about again?

Oh yeah, how we are all pedantic a-hole middle aged men who play with plastic space ships and argue about kids cartoons and movies, Disney stuff at that.

and yeah I’m right there with you.

I mean I've got about 15 years until I'm middle aged.

But yeah.

29 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I mean I've got about 15 years until I'm middle aged.

18 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

I literally JUST noticed that the guard standing behind Sheev is wearing helmet and robes similar to the Royal Guard from Return of the Jedi.

+1 point Prequel trilogy / -1 point Sequel trilogy.

5 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I literally JUST noticed that the guard standing behind Sheev is wearing helmet and robes similar to the Royal Guard from Return of the Jedi.

+1 point Prequel trilogy / -1 point Sequel trilogy.

Fun fact -

Since the Imperial Royal Guard makes an appearance in Revenge of the Sith , in the timeline, their armour predates the design of any Stormtroopers from the OT save the Biker Scouts.

32 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Fun fact -

Since the Imperial Royal Guard makes an appearance in Revenge of the Sith , in the timeline, their armour predates the design of any Stormtroopers from the OT save the Biker Scouts.

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Aren't they in the background of Episode II? That would have them predate any Stormtrooper armor design.

28 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Fun fact -

Since the Imperial Royal Guard makes an appearance in Revenge of the Sith , in the timeline, their armour predates the design of any Stormtroopers from the OT save the Biker Scouts.

The BARC troopers had similar but not identical helmets and gear to the Later Scouts. The Galactic Marines had basically the same kit as the ‘Snowtroopers’ as well. And Phase 2 clone armor was just a few steps away from being standard Stormtrooper armor.

Also the red robed guys were around in AotC, weren’t they? The definitely predated the declaration of the Empire.

43 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I literally JUST noticed that the guard standing behind Sheev is wearing helmet and robes similar to the Royal Guard from Return of the Jedi.

+1 point Prequel trilogy / -1 point Sequel trilogy.

? At least we got to see the Praetorian Guard Fight. They were still as equally effective at protecting Snoke as the Royal Guard were at protecting Palpy on DS2.

TPM has been out for almost 2 decades, and you just now notice the similarities between the blue and red guys. -1 SW nerd points.

27 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Also the red robed guys were around in AotC, weren’t they? The definitely predated the declaration of the Empire.

In Attack of the Clones and the animated The Clone Wars they were still technically called the ‘Red Guard,’ although they were already attached to then Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, and where christened ‘Imperial Royal Guard’ as the events of RotS transpired.

Supposedly they got armor upgrades despite retiaining their original design, although this is not stated when this happened.

[In game terms, due to superior modifications, they did not take armor penalties to their Dexterity based skills like most other Stormtroopers did.]

I’m curious, is this thread one of the longest in this Forum? I tried to read most of it from the start to help fall asleep. That was a fail, kept me up.