STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

Don't forget Grand Generals. We actually had one in the new canon, Tagge.

1 minute ago, Sithborg said:

Don't forget Grand Generals. We actually had one in the new canon, Tagge.

Grand Generals actually appear ahead of Grand Admirals in former Canon.

I always preferred the title Grand Marshal or Surface Marshal, and those appear in West End Games Imperial Sourcebook in 1989.

6 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Incorrect. This thread was constantly sitting on the front page before you whipper snappers made yer thread.

(At least when there are episodes around).

Im gonna keep this on page one until the finale.

Consider it a free bump. I've been following this thread but try not to post in it. Things get heated here from time to time.

Great couple episodes.

The introduction of time travel leaves us another option for Ezra besides killing him off. He could end up having to use a portal into the future that dumps him after the events of the OT, leaving him unable to be involved in those events.

Also, FORCE FLAMES!!

On 2/27/2018 at 6:52 PM, xanderf said:

The biggest problem with the stupidity of bringing

Literally what is gained by doing this, instead of just having had Vader kill her, outright, seasons back? How is the story improved by Ahsoka living through that, and returning, because time travel is apparently a thing, now, in the Star Wars universe?

At first when he saved Ahsoka, I thought, "Well, they were fighting in another temple, so he was able to do that because there was another portal there." And I was okay with that.

But then when he opened a portal right to Kanan's death I was like, "Oh, so he can open a portal to just anywhere..." and I wasn't really okay with that.

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12 hours ago, LagJanson said:

Consider it a free bump. I've been following this thread but try not to post in it. Things get heated here from time to time.

Yes, the fans here can be very... ugh passionate at times.

On 2/27/2018 at 11:01 PM, Sir Orrin said:

Can we talk about the guy incharge of the imperial excavation? (I can't remember or find his name.) I really liked his character, thought he was a great antagonist. It's also interesting to actually see one of palpatines acolytles on screen.

I also really liked that guy. It's always nice when an Imperial officer isn't inherently antagonistic.

He's just a history nerd that wants to solve a magic puzzle. Not exactly Thrawn, but I still liked him. To bad he probably died.

On 2/28/2018 at 10:47 AM, Forresto said:

Not wishing collateral damage doesn't make Thrawn a good guy, but I think it makes him a more interesting villain.

Indeed. He values assets and doesn't casually expend them when he doesn't need to like most Imperial leaders. It's one of my favorite aspects of his character, and it's in full force in the new Thrawn book.

On 3/1/2018 at 9:31 AM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Please be an adaptation of the Thrawn Trilogy...

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I've been hearing something about a Resistance TV series.

3 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

I also really liked that guy. It's always nice when an Imperial officer isn't inherently antagonistic.

He's just a history nerd that wants to solve a magic puzzle. Not exactly Thrawn, but I still liked him. To bad he probably died.

I discuss that character here, he is voiced by Malcolm McDowell!

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I've been hearing something about a Resistance TV series.

That would fit the Lucas Films playbook and as we said in off topic we found this out last week.

5 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

Great couple episodes.

The introduction of time travel leaves us another option for Ezra besides killing him off. He could end up having to use a portal into the future that dumps him after the events of the OT, leaving him unable to be involved in those events.

Also, FORCE FLAMES!!

At first when he saved Ahsoka, I thought, "Well, they were fighting in another temple, so he was able to do that because there was another portal there." And I was okay with that.

But then when he opened a portal right to Kanan's death I was like, "Oh, so he can open a portal to just anywhere..." and I wasn't really okay with that.

Alex from Star Wars Explained has a theory that Palpatine was actually showing a false vision through that portal, which likely led to the Sith Temple under Coruscant. Palpatine was basically trying to tempt Ezra through the Coruscant portal to capture him and use him to access the Temple.

This is an interesting explanation, but it also throws up a few questions

Does the Lothal Temple connect to other parts of Space-Time than temples? Hydan says [and I'm paraphrasing] the Lothal Temple is the key to all parts of space and time. Is he ignorant of the connection between temples, or does allowing to traverse *time* make it the only useful aspect and his statement about space was kinda redundant? (You could, say, zip back to the KOTOR era and start travelling around and meddling with events there)

Do we only see a limited manifestation of the power since Ezra is not as powerful as Palpatine? It's certainly interesting that through the Force he only seems to directly connect with points of Space and Time that he has some emotional connection to. Could a more powerful force user overcome this? Could Palpatine open a portal to any part of Space and Time whereas Ezra was limited to his own past?

Also, is the existence of hyperspace connected to this temple? Are the wolves and space whales able to travel through hyperspace because they are naturally able to manifest an aspect of the Force? Perhaps more connected to the 'Cosmic' Force than the one manifestation we associate with the Jedi? (I think I'd heard there's a difference in the new Canon between the Living Force that is the one we normally think of and the Cosmic Force which is a lot more mysterious, but I can't recall if I got the jargon right xD)*

Lots of questions, none of which I expect to come across answers to any time soon, but it's fun to ponder.

*Also, I know causality doesn't matter in Star Wars and Pablo Hidalgo has said as much but Hyperspace being a realm where you travel though space AND time does somewhat resolve the fact that whenever you go faster than light you are travelling back in time. So hyperspace naturally "adjusts" for any discrepancy in temporal position.

Sorry. Physicist going off the deep end on wild speculation now.

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4 minutes ago, Ktan said:

Alex from Star Wars Explained has a theory that Palpatine was actually showing a false vision through that portal, which likely led to the Sith Temple under Coruscant. Palpatine was basically trying to tempt Ezra through the Coruscant portal to capture him and use him to access the Temple.

Oh, I like it! I just realised Palpatine appears in the same portal that showed Kanan's death.

I think that's exactly the thing that Alex based his theory off =)

(Oh, also it has the Sith symbol above it whereas the other portals had symbols above and around that connected to, say the Temple at Malachor or the Temple of Lothal)

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7 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I've been hearing something about a Resistance TV series.

Too bad they can’t do a series about the three years between ep 4 and 5. With the main characters. Like what LEGO did, only more serious and awesome, and at times focus the ‘little people’ of the rebellion.

but no, I guess they have to focus their efforts on the current movies. Stupid marketing synergy.

4 hours ago, Ktan said:

Sorry. Physicist going off the deep end on wild speculation now.

Don’t you dare bring your science into my space fantasy! That’s the path to midichlorians!

Spoilers from the last episode from a Q and A not sure how valid

- The Emperor Palpatine tempts Ezra by appearing to him in his pre - Revenge of the Sith more pleasant form. Ezra nearly gives in but does something selfless and apparently disappears with purrgils?

- It's not clear. The Emperor tempts him (it sounds like they imply he promises he can bring back his parents or something but I'm not sure), Ezra nearly gives in but stops himself. He does something ‘selfless’ and somehow disappears with purrgils. He's not dead, since Ahsoka and Sabine head out together to find him.

Selflessness implies a sacrifice but he survives. Maybe he comes to see himself as a threat to Lothal since The Emperor wants his power and he goes off into the Unknown Regions, foreshadowing Luke?

- Sabine and Ahsoka go off to find Ezra.

- Ending is a time skip after the Original Trilogy! Kanan and Hera had a kid.

Below is conjecture, NOT mine

If the series ends with Sabine and Ahsoka setting off to look for Ezra and the birth of Kanan and Heras child then that would suggest the next animated series will serve as something of a sequel to Rebels. Which makes me wonder if Dave intends to make each of his animated series act as an 'Episode' in a trilogy that chronicles Ahsoka’s story.

Episode I: The Clone Wars - Introduces Ahsoka, sees her train as a padawan under the tutelage of Anakin, originally ended with Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order (through The Lost Missions gave us a new ending)

Episode II: Rebels - Shows us that Ahsoka survived Order 66 and continued to fight against The Empire, even playing a part in the rise of the Rebellion, and discovered Anakin's fate, even confronting him at least once and letting go of her master. Ends with her seeking out Ezra.

Episode III: Resistance - Ahsoka encounters Luke and decides to help further his training (Her story begins being taught by Anakin and ends teaching Luke, it's like poetry), they start searching for Jedi artefacts in the hopes of finding Ezra and gaining a full understanding of The Force. Show ends with Ahsoka sacrificing herself.

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On 2/27/2018 at 5:48 PM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Dave Filoni had hidden spoilers for us two years ago on his artist series card.

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OH WOW.

12 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

Too bad they can’t do a series about the three years between ep 4 and 5. With the main characters. Like what LEGO did, only more serious and awesome, and at times focus the ‘little people’ of the rebellion.

but no, I guess they have to focus their efforts on the current movies. Stupid marketing synergy.

I want Rogue Squadron meets Top Gun meets Black Sheep Squadron myself ...

4 minutes ago, Hawkstrike said:

I want Rogue Squadron meets Top Gun meets Black Sheep Squadron myself ...

Ba Ba Blacksheep....man, that was a show.

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Enjoying my last day of Thrawn before the finale.

It's nice having a competent villain other then Vader and Tarkin for a change.

I wouldn't mind if no one died. Ezra living is a good trade for Thrawn living.

If I've got my dream show: Lor San Tekka prequel. Random adventurer wandering the Galaxy, hanging out with some Scummy folks, more of an Indiana Jones type, an enemy to the Empire but not an active part of the Rebellion. Maybe have some old Rebels friends show up now and again, but not as the whole of the show.

8 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

If I've got my dream show: Lor San Tekka prequel. Random adventurer wandering the Galaxy, hanging out with some Scummy folks, more of an Indiana Jones type, an enemy to the Empire but not an active part of the Rebellion. Maybe have some old Rebels friends show up now and again, but not as the whole of the show.

As much as I like Max Von Sidow, you could do SO much with a Doctor Aphra series in the same vein.

25 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Enjoying my last day of Thrawn before the finale.

It's nice having a competent villain other then Vader and Tarkin for a change.

I wouldn't mind if no one died. Ezra living is a good trade for Thrawn living.

Filoni steeples his hands. He's wearing glasses that shine in the light like an anime villain.

"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further"

13 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

Don’t you dare bring your science into my space fantasy! That’s the path to midichlorians!

Touche, and bravo

4 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

OH WOW.

"So if Ahsoka's been alive all this time, where was she in the OT?"

"Ahsoka?" I reply. "I 'ardly know 'er!"

Everyone puts their head in their hands and groans at my bantha fodder

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4 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

As much as I like Max Von Sidow, you could do SO much with a Doctor Aphra series in the same vein.

No doubt. I'd be pleased as punch with a young Lor San Tekka being a recurring character and rival in a Doctor Aphra show. In some ways, he'd almost be better as the too-clean, too-good rival who keeps getting the upper hand on Aphra here and there. It's often really fun to have a hero filling the narrative role of the antagonist.

And imagine if you bring back Ketsu Onyo as a co-star. Or just some sort of Scummy Anthology-type show, more like Clone Wars, where you often had large stretches without Anakin or Obi-Wan. Aphra, Ketsu, and Lor San Tekka as the three "mains" but really you probably only get one or another here and there. Get some Zuckuss and 4-LOM. Resolve some of the Mandalor threads which will be left hanging in Rebels.

Part of the appeal of a LST show, however, is you can set it between 6 & 7. That's not necessarily better than an Aphra show in the span between 4 & 5 & 6, but it's a time-span less familiar to most.

So does this mean Luke, Yoda, Obi Wan, and Darth just walk around space side walks every time they need to remind a character to "use the force" when they are in trouble?

28 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

As much as I like Max Von Sidow, you could do SO much with a Doctor Aphra series in the same vein.

I feel like a villain protagonist is probably a pretty hard to Disney to make a TV show out of.

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