STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

5 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

I don't believe Thrawn would have gone along with Operation Cinder. It serves no purpose other than to fuel Palpatine's ego, and I'm shocked that we don't have more stories of Imperials saying "Yeah, no thanks. The Emperor may be dead, but why should the Empire die with him?"

Based on the ending of Thrawn , my bet is our titular character simply goes back to the Chiss, or they'll kill him off in Rebels just so the show's heroes can seem competent. I would love for an adaption fo the Thrawn trilogy, but I doubt we'll ever get anything like that.

The only way I think he would go along with it is to make the Empire a more tempting target, like he explained to Nightswan. But even then, I'm not sure he would think it necessary to help the plan along.

2 minutes ago, Yakostovian said:

I liked that arc as well, so count me in as a member of the crazy-club.

My enjoyment of the Clone Wars seems inversely proportional to the screen time devoted to Battle Droids speaking.

I’m kind of opposite there... like, I won’t be buying Legion until I can have a nothing but Battle Droid army....

And conversely... the only part of Aftermath that I enjoyed was when a particular Battle Droid was speaking. lol

4 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

So, no hint as to WHAT he’s working on, just an announcement of an announcement.

I guess he’s following the FFG model then.

Well they did that with rebels to so its not really surprising.

22 hours ago, Forresto said:

The Ghost on the side...how has no one spotted it?

Look at all those windows on the Star Destroyer, 35,000 on board, someone has a window office, they're going to notice. :lol: Not to mention the much closer Dreadnaught.

If a ship is passing Military cordon, there will be thousands of eyes from multiple ships.

It worked for the Falcon because they hid on the one part of the ISD that didn't have windows.

Not a big deal but its one of those instances on Rebels where either due to time restraints or something else, this was a flaw not thought about on the production side.

Its a cargo ship, why not stuff the Ghost *inside* the ship.

The series just keeps getting worse, the 4th season... I couldn't believe it, but it feels like they try to outdo the previous seasons... Barons that should never be Barons, Special Forces that in every appearance but in Rebels has been amazing, but here, there are no differences between them and the Storm Troopers in Rebels, which is badly portrayed, because if the Empire was this incompetent their would be no Civil war as just unarmed rioters would be to much for the Empire in every single location they are at. We have another Ace that is awesome in a TIE Interceptor... but the sec he's in a TIE Defender "HE IS THE STUPID". Thrawn is also freaking stupid in season 4, despite being a Grand Admiral, despite manufacturing TIE Defenders, despite knowing a pistol will do nothing to a TIE Defender, and Despite knowing Grand Admirals are primary targets after Palpatine himself, he stands out in the open and fires his pistol at a Rebel piloted TIE Defender.

Oh and then Vader is hyper incompetent in this series.

BUT NOW, WE GET A NICE SCENE LIKE THE ONE POSTED WITH THE GHOST OUT IN THE OPEN IN AN IMPERIAL FLEET BOARDING A IMPERIAL SHIP THAT IS SURROUNDED BY IMPERIAL SHIPS. What the heck is next, how much more stupid are they gonna try and make the Empire by the End of this series? I hate to think what they will do to the Galactic Empire in the SW Resistance Tv series. It's probably even worse.


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19 hours ago, Forresto said:

What a fantastic scene!!!! They were able to do something I never expected, make it visually jarring by mixing multiple mediums together that are not visually compatible, unless they are gonna imply that he is actually seeing different universes, and that's why the left the scenes looking the way they did, because in those universes those people actually do look different than themselves in other universes, LFL was lazy, and they should have just animated those scenes while keeping the sound from those scenes the same.

11 hours ago, KellenC said:

So with everyone quite geared up about Thrawn does anyone have any theories about where he's going to be during the OT?

I mean, we've all talked a lot about how there can't be more Jedi running around hence Kanan always being doomed and Ezra likely to, at least, disappear (guardian of the nexus thingy would be my guess) but isn't Thrawn just as big a plot hole now?

They've gone out of their way to show how competent he is throughout the series, which has been a nice change of pace, but it does mean the Rebels tendency to win battles by plucky plans or sheer luck is left a bit more unlikely if he's running around.

Probably unpopular opinion: I'd like an add-on series/book/comic showing the Mon Calamari joining the rebellion in which Thrawn is defeated by Admiral Ackbar. I mean, he's supposed to be the best fleet officer the Rebels ever have and yet we only see him for like ten minutes total movie screen time (I hear he's in CW too but never watched it through because good lord is it a slog) and then he gets unceremoniously blown up. He probably can't match Thrawn in terms of cunning and plots etc but a straight up fleet engagement where the Empire has underestimated the number of ships the Mon Cal have made (from their cities apparently) so Thrawn is outnumbered but still puts up a **** of a fight and nearly wins would be, I think, a cool way to go.

But I haven't read the new Thrawn book either so this may already be impossible.

Star Wars TIE Fighter explains it pretty well, we see the actual designer of the most advanced TIEs, and version of the TIE Defender, Grand Admiral Zaarin.

It's not a plot issue for ether the Jedi or Thrawn. Their are a **** of a lot of conflicts going on in between this point in time up to ep 6. Besides they had Three Grand Admirals at the 2nd Death, all of them Superior to Thrawn in skill or abilities as ether Force Abilities or non-force based artificial Psychic Abilities.

As far as Jedi and other Force users go, we see they are more uncommon than nearly extinct via what was shown in Uprising.

They made it clear in the lore that Mon Cal ships, most the ones used by the Rebels actually are ships built for war, they have some that were skyscrapers... but obviously that is and was a stupid idea hence why the ships you are seeing like in Ep 6 actually are built for war just like was shown in older material.

21 minutes ago, Black Knight Leader said:

They made it clear in the lore that Mon Cal ships, most the ones used by the Rebels actually are ships built for war, they have some that were skyscrapers... but obviously that is and was a stupid idea hence why the ships you are seeing like in Ep 6 actually are built for war just like was shown in older material.

I keep seeing this claim about some of the Mon Cal ships were skyscrapers, but google fails to yield results on the sources of this information. Care to share?

11 minutes ago, Yakostovian said:

I keep seeing this claim about some of the Mon Cal ships were skyscrapers, but google fails to yield results on the sources of this information. Care to share?

I believe that info-byte is from the Profundity entry in the Rogue One Visual Guide.

"Older material" had Mon Cala ships as refitted passenger liners. Home One had a Central Park in the middle.

23 minutes ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I believe that info-byte is from the Profundity entry in the Rogue One Visual Guide.

That is correct.

It was a City Hall.

there is a picture of the page and quote on the Armada forums, but my ability to search for it is restricted at the moment

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2 hours ago, Black Knight Leader said:

Star Wars TIE Fighter explains it pretty well, we see the actual designer of the most advanced TIEs, and version of the TIE Defender, Grand Admiral Zaarin.

Maybe Defenders and GUNBOATS will switch places in the timeline, with the GUNBOAT being the ‘TIE Avenger’ analogue and the MISSILE BOAT and SLAM as the super advanced fighter. I guess that means the TIE Defender would be brought back and updated just prior to Endor to counter the GOD EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE MISSILE BOAT.

at any rate I remember Thrawn being Vice Admiral in the game before he was promoted and sent to the Unknown Regions prior to Endor. Maybe Rebels will end with a demotion for him, explaining why he’s still wearing a Grand Admiral uniform in the TIE Fighter cut scenes...he just never changed his clothes. Gross.

2 hours ago, Black Knight Leader said:

The series just keeps getting worse, the 4th season... I couldn't believe it, but it feels like they try to outdo the previous seasons... Barons that should never be Barons, Special Forces that in every appearance but in Rebels has been amazing, but here, there are no differences between them and the Storm Troopers in Rebels, which is badly portrayed, because if the Empire was this incompetent their would be no Civil war as just unarmed rioters would be to much for the Empire in every single location they are at. We have another Ace that is awesome in a TIE Interceptor... but the sec he's in a TIE Defender "HE IS THE STUPID". Thrawn is also freaking stupid in season 4, despite being a Grand Admiral, despite manufacturing TIE Defenders, despite knowing a pistol will do nothing to a TIE Defender, and Despite knowing Grand Admirals are primary targets after Palpatine himself, he stands out in the open and fires his pistol at a Rebel piloted TIE Defender.

Oh and then Vader is hyper incompetent in this series.

BUT NOW, WE GET A NICE SCENE LIKE THE ONE POSTED WITH THE GHOST OUT IN THE OPEN IN AN IMPERIAL FLEET BOARDING A IMPERIAL SHIP THAT IS SURROUNDED BY IMPERIAL SHIPS. What the heck is next, how much more stupid are they gonna try and make the Empire by the End of this series? I hate to think what they will do to the Galactic Empire in the SW Resistance Tv series. It's probably even worse.


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What a fantastic scene!!!! They were able to do something I never expected, make it visually jarring by mixing multiple mediums together that are not visually compatible, unless they are gonna imply that he is actually seeing different universes, and that's why the left the scenes looking the way they did, because in those universes those people actually do look different than themselves in other universes, LFL was lazy, and they should have just animated those scenes while keeping the sound from those scenes the same.

Star Wars TIE Fighter explains it pretty well, we see the actual designer of the most advanced TIEs, and version of the TIE Defender, Grand Admiral Zaarin.

It's not a plot issue for ether the Jedi or Thrawn. Their are a **** of a lot of conflicts going on in between this point in time up to ep 6. Besides they had Three Grand Admirals at the 2nd Death, all of them Superior to Thrawn in skill or abilities as ether Force Abilities or non-force based artificial Psychic Abilities.

As far as Jedi and other Force users go, we see they are more uncommon than nearly extinct via what was shown in Uprising.

They made it clear in the lore that Mon Cal ships, most the ones used by the Rebels actually are ships built for war, they have some that were skyscrapers... but obviously that is and was a stupid idea hence why the ships you are seeing like in Ep 6 actually are built for war just like was shown in older material.

Hate to quote it all but on mobile.

That video is not the original. Someone else added the images. Everything else isthe same. Makes the scene even cooler with the images.

6 minutes ago, MegaSilver said:

Hate to quote it all but on mobile.

That video is not the original. Someone else added the images. Everything else isthe same. Makes the scene even cooler with the images.

Was just about to say this exact same thing. Alex from Star Wars Explained added all the images from the movies and Clone Wars onto what Rebels actually showed us as a pet project. Definitely one of my favorite videos he's ever put out!

Just had a realization:

Not sure if it's been brought up before, but Ezra's last name: Bridger. When he pulls Ahsoka through the portal, he's bridging time as Ahsoka has just been pulled across ~2 years into the future. Wonder if there'll be more to it. Or maybe I'm reaching a bit.

I like the idea that Ahsoka may not have been returned to the same timeframe. the floor was no longer crumbling when she returned. she could be on Malachor way into the future and run into Rey. Just an interesting thought.

11 minutes ago, shadowzeak said:

Just had a realization:

Not sure if it's been brought up before, but Ezra's last name: Bridger. When he pulls Ahsoka through the portal, he's bridging time as Ahsoka has just been pulled across ~2 years into the future. Wonder if there'll be more to it. Or maybe I'm reaching a bit.

Arguably yes, that's a reach, but it's an interesting observation either way!

1 minute ago, Ktan said:

Arguably yes, that's a reach, but it's an interesting observation either way!

I would say a ‘bridge’ too far...

1 hour ago, GrimmyV said:

I would say a ‘bridge’ too far...

I loved that movie!

Here, have a great weekend!

Just a short wait for the finale!

I hope Thrawn survives. He is reminded twice about his project in competition with Krennic´ s. My guess his project is going to be scrapped.

Pryce her actions have messed up his production lines and there is going to be a final battle over Lothal where he shall ruthlessly shoot the capital into cinders. Deprived of fuel and workforce and after that funding, that should be the end of the Defender project. Now just hope the Emperor sends him and Rukh to the Unknown Regions for mapping the area and/or preparing a new stronghold.

I like the point of Ezra´ s family name being Bridger. If he fades towards the ´ in between times´ , he is reasonably out of the OT, without killing a kid in what still is a kids tv-series on Disney

If Disney is going HBO Game of Thrones style with this, they should have killed at least 1 main character per season.... ;-)

1 hour ago, Cununculus said:

If Disney is going HBO Game of Thrones style with this, they should have killed at least 1 main character per season.... ;-)

No, the Halo Reach formula doesn’t really work as well spread over 4 seasons.

I knew there was a good reason I have BKL on ignore.

21 hours ago, Black Knight Leader said:

What a fantastic scene!!!! They were able to do something I never expected, make it visually jarring by mixing multiple mediums together that are not visually compatible, unless they are gonna imply that he is actually seeing different universes, and that's why the left the scenes looking the way they did, because in those universes those people actually do look different than themselves in other universes, LFL was lazy, and they should have just animated those scenes while keeping the sound from those scenes the same.

You do know that the clips showing the characters as they speak were added in by whoever posted the video, right?

In the actual scene only the voices are heard. Ezra (and the audience) doesn't actually see the characters as they're talking.

Edited by Derpzilla88

Bump, just to keep us on top.

Wrong thread

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1 hour ago, LagJanson said:

Wrong thread

Incorrect. This thread was constantly sitting on the front page before you whipper snappers made yer thread.

(At least when there are episodes around).

Im gonna keep this on page one until the finale.

On 3/1/2018 at 3:31 PM, Black Knight Leader said:

Besides they had Three Grand Admirals at the 2nd Death, all of them Superior to Thrawn in skill or abilities as ether Force Abilities or non-force based artificial Psychic Abilities.

I think the word you are looking for is senior and not superior. As Grand Admiral Thrawn was the 13th to be raised to that position, the others held the position longer, and in theory, could claim seniority.

In former EU, of the "Circle of Twelve" Grand Admirals, only four, Grand Admirals Josef Grunger, Miltin Takel, Rufaan Tigellinus, and Osvald Teshik were considered possibly equal to Thrawn militarily, and even so, just barely .

Grand Admiral Rufaan Tigellinus was later made a Grand Moff by The Emperor in the Core worlds, so arguably he held a superior rank, but this is later on in the timeline.

[Full disclosure I wrote his backstory.]

Grand Admirals Ishin-Il-Raz and Danetta Pitta were Political appointments and had very little real military experience or expertise at the time of their appointment.

Thrawn, Alien may be be, since his inception, was always written to be among the key military minds in The Empire.

The Star Wars analog to Rommel or Von Manstein.

Edited by Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun