STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

4 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Wasn't Maz Ameeda running the empire or trying to keep it together post Endor? You know that blue guy next to Palpatine in the prequels.

Key word was trying.

15 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Wasn't Maz Ameeda running the empire or trying to keep it together post Endor? You know that blue guy next to Palpatine in the prequels.

In Aftermath: Life Debt he's sorta, kinda in charge, but he's so pointless and powerless for some reason that the New Republic didn't even want to take him prisoner. Basically told him to come back when he had more to surrender.... which I thought made no sense at all.

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16 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Wasn't Maz Ameeda running the empire or trying to keep it together post Endor? You know that blue guy next to Palpatine in the prequels.

Have you ever heard of The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise Mas Amedda?

Oh..,. Wow. That is a great couple of episodes.

4 minutes ago, Ccwebb said:

Oh..,. Wow. That is a great couple of episodes.

For those of us who can't watch them, could you provide any details?

Any Thrawn action?

I've watched clips and I love the second part of the two. Incredible additions to the mythos and once again they're emphasizing how mystical the force is.

It felt very Raiders of the Lost Ark, which is only a good thing.

The Emperor is pretty scary.

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Not a fan they brought Ashoka back.

I feel it undercuts the purpose of killing the character of Kanan off last week. Kanan was a jedi, that was the only reason he needed to die.

Ashoka is viewed as a Jedi by everyone else, even if she was excommunicated from the order. Even then if she lives past Rebels, Luke would have hunted her down to learn the ways of the force from her. Her existence poses just as much a problem towards current canon as Kanan.

I'll wait till next week and the finale though to make a judgement.

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Well... Those were some pretty stellar episodes. Did a great job answering a few of the lingering questions, but also gave us a ton more questions that need answered. Now I'm really looking forward to what they do with the finale.

Told you guys she wasn't dead.

Mortis still has a part to play yet, especially considering they had a mortis cake at the rebels wrap party.

I'm thinking...

Kanan becomes the new father, ahsoka becomes the new daughter, and ezra becomes the new son

Just now, markcsoul said:

Mortis still has a part to play yet, especially considering they had a mortis cake at the rebels wrap party.

I'm thinking...

Kanan becomes the new father, ahsoka becomes the new daughter, and ezra becomes the new son

That... Would certainly be interesting.

6 minutes ago, markcsoul said:

Mortis still has a part to play yet, especially considering they had a mortis cake at the rebels wrap party.

I'm thinking...

Kanan becomes the new father, ahsoka becomes the new daughter, and ezra becomes the new son

That...sounds tragically believable. Also...the stupidest thing that has happened to Star Wars since the Vong, and (even more sadly) somehow canonical. Bleh - that whole... thing ...was just so AGGRESSIVELY stupid, I just...ugggh.

Man. I like a lot of what Filoni did to 'fix' the character of Anakin and fill in the gaps of the Clone Wars, and even much of 'Rebels' was entertaining in providing some detail of the early rebellion, but...eh? All of that vs Mortis ? Hmmmm. I'd have to think about that trade. That's sort of like the Thrawn Trilogy vs anything-Kevin-J-Anderson-wrote. If you could only keep all of both, or wipe out all of both, what would be the choice? Hmmmm....

Can we talk about the fact that Dave Filoni is so sentimental he invents an entire new concept in the lore just to bring back a character he killed two seasons ago?

#NoOneEscapesDeathExceptOurProtagonists

17 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Can we talk about the fact that Dave Filoni is so sentimental he invents an entire new concept in the lore just to bring back a character he killed two seasons ago?

#NoOneEscapesDeathExceptOurProtagonists

Sounds like somebody doesn't watch Rebels Recon..! Shame, shame. Let's fix that!

1 hour ago, markcsoul said:

Mortis still has a part to play yet, especially considering they had a mortis cake at the rebels wrap party.

I'm thinking...

Kanan becomes the new father, ahsoka becomes the new daughter, and ezra becomes the new son


I can't discount it, but I don't buy it. Still, not at all impossible is it?

"Destinies Will Be Revealed."
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Star Wars: Rebels is coming to an end fairly soon. We have only one week left for this show, and upon the end of this show, I will be doing a set of thoughts, final or otherwise, on how Star Wars' most recent TV series effected the universe we all know and love so dearly, the characters within, and where we go from here. I may even review each episode individually at a later period, should anybody care to see that.

Star Wars: Rebels has been an interesting thing for me. It has been many things- a matter of trust, something I can be enthusiastic about, and a responsibility. In what way is it a responsibility for me, however?

This thread is why. From the get-go I've taken personal responsibility for the thread and even though I haven't always been the nicest, or the smartest, or something else-est, I've been the me-est I can be about things and my enthusiasm for the show has always been genuine. Never shyed from critique when prudent, and I'm very glad that so many of you have joined me in disregarding the show's vehement haters.

Above all else,

I have been beyond happy to supply you all, my fellow Rebels fans and Friends alike, with a place to discuss this show. It has been a consistent anchoring point for us as fans, no matter what we think of the new films and other media, we've had this show. To see it end will be bittersweet, as given I've very few chances to play X-Wing Miniatures, my reason to come to this forum becomes less and less. But this has been a place where, for the past three and a half years, where I've had some excellent discussions not only about Rebels, but Star Wars in general.

I thank you all for it.
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Going to make the point that I never said Ahsoka was definitely dead but that her fate was left deliberately ambiguous

As it happens, that scene was a lot more literal than I'd thought because timey wimey stuff

I loved the callback with the archway. That was a good way of linking back.

Schrödinger's Ahsoka: Whether Ahsoka lives or dies depends entirely on the ability of Ezra Bridger to make an observation

Also I loved some of the voice overs. Really nailed the "outside of time" thing

"Always in motion, the future is" (!)

As soon as we heard Yoda and Obi-Wan quotes from ANH and ESB I knew time shenanigans were afoot. Also, is it just me or did we hear Rey in the temple?

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1 hour ago, Ktan said:

Going to make the point that I never said Ahsoka was definitely dead but that her fate was left deliberately ambiguous

As it happens, that scene was a lot more literal than I'd thought because timey wimey stuff

I loved the callback with the archway. That was a good way of linking back.

Schrödinger's Ahsoka: Whether Ahsoka lives or dies depends entirely on the ability of Ezra Bridger to make an observation

Also I loved some of the voice overs. Really nailed the "outside of time" thing

"Always in motion, the future is" (!)

As soon as we heard Yoda and Obi-Wan quotes from ANH and ESB I knew time shenanigans were afoot. Also, is it just me or did we hear Rey in the temple?

We also heard Kylo Ren at least thrice distinctly. It's amazing in a way, the force really does bind all things- past and present, near and far- and this all expands upon concepts by George Lucas when you get down to the brass tacks of it all, you know?

I feel this last episode(s) just let us know, that what we THOUGHT we knew of the force is nothing but a jar of sand from the beach of the force.

I believe eve it even ties in Luke’s force projection even better!

Last night's 2 episodes of Star Trek were epic!

Andi's storm trooper sweater in the Rebels Recon. That'd be a fun project to knit.

Yes, I'm a knitter.

*edit* because Disney, of course you can buy it . can i just get a pattern? *edit*

Anyhow, I'm all here for the trippy space-wizard sh**.

However great Rebels is (I really love it), in some ways it'll never feel as real as the movies. And that's fine with me. Not all the movies *cough*attackoftheclones*cough* feel real to me. So bring on the trippy stuff.

Wild theory: If Kanan was the white Lothwolf all along, was Ezra the white Lothcat?

About Ahsoka. She's kinda back, but I mean, no one has heard from her in like two years or however long it's been. She was last seen going down into the tunnels. No indication she'll come out, at least not in Ezra's lifetime. I've been saying for a while that it's cool to me that whenever someone comes to Malachor, a strange "old master" waiting there, with no reason to be there or no reason to be alive, but there. And I like the thought that Ahsoka might be the next Old Master after Maul. How cool of a side-story would it be if one of the Knights of Ren (do any of them have doubts about the dark side?) went poking around, and an old woman introduces herself with "you can call me Old Master."

One last thing: I don't mind if there are other Jedi-adjacent folks around, so long as there's a reason they're not really around. Yoda's pretty clever, but doesn't necessarily know everything, and both he and Obi-Wan have been known to lie. I know it feels good to hang onto something from the OT as true, despite how many of the things the old Jedi taught Luke being wrong mostly because George Lucas decided he needed to retcon a bunch of stuff.

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5 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

We also heard Kylo Ren at least thrice distinctly. It's amazing in a way, the force really does bind all things- past and present, near and far- and this all expands upon concepts by George Lucas when you get down to the brass tacks of it all, you know?

Just seen the Star Wars Explained review and he reckons he heard lines from Rogue One as well

I love the whole "beyond the veil of space and time" thing they just brought into the Force. Also the same video suggests it could have interesting implications for hyperspace: Rebels has already implied there are creature that naturally use hyperspace with the space whales as well as the wolves, would be interesting if hyperspace had some link to the Force (IMO)

Normally I'm hacked off by time travel science fiction and fantasy unless it's done in a carefully considered or interesting way (Edge of Tomorrow is a good example of one I give a pass to). The way this was tied into the Force and was very self-contained kinda worked.

I love Ahsoka, but I've mixed feelings about how bringing her back changes the conclusion of her arc.

I liked the way they both were there to help each other realise their master was gone though. That was nice and a worthwhile payoff

2 hours ago, Ccwebb said:

I feel this last episode(s) just let us know, that what we THOUGHT we knew of the force is nothing but a jar of sand from the beach of the force.

I believe eve it even ties in Luke’s force projection even better!

I agree. The Force just got a whole lot trippier. As, imo, it should be.

12 hours ago, Forresto said:

Ashoka is viewed as a Jedi by everyone else, even if she was excommunicated from the order. Even then if she lives past Rebels, Luke would have hunted her down to learn the ways of the force from her. Her existence poses just as much a problem towards current canon as Kanan.

Nobody knows she's still around except for Vader (who has reason to believe she died in the temple), Kanan (who's dead) and Ezra (whose fate is yet to be seen). How would Luke even know she's alive, let alone where to find her to go train with her?

And would Ben send Luke to someone who was excommunicated from the order, or to the only living Jedi Master?