Also, Kallus isn't affiliated with the Army or Navy. He's ISB, who might have a differently structured ranking system in which his insignia makes sense.

When I look closely - Saxton seems to be going with " less cylinders = higher rank" (1 cylinder 6x2 is High Admiral: "Class 1" - and ranks dropping down from ther to "Class 4: Fleet Admiral" for a 4 cylinder 6x2) .

That's not very intuitive. I think the reverse fits better - and that was how The Essential Guide To Warfare did it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rank_insignia_plaque/Legends

and Imperial Commander's Handbook had something similar.

Well it sort of makes sense. One "master key" if you will as opposed to multiple keys to various bits here and there.

I keep tellin' people. Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin's force convergence.

She's not Vader's granddaughter. She IS Vader. That's why she's so connected to his light saber.

I know.

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/ghosts-of-geonosis-trivia-gallery

It seems the geonosian queen egg is the one from the Vader comic series, so that is one dead race of bugs.

When I look closely - Saxton seems to be going with " less cylinders = higher rank" (1 cylinder 6x2 is High Admiral: "Class 1" - and ranks dropping down from ther to "Class 4: Fleet Admiral" for a 4 cylinder 6x2) .

That's not very intuitive. I think the reverse fits better - and that was how The Essential Guide To Warfare did it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rank_insignia_plaque/Legends

and Imperial Commander's Handbook had something similar.

Well it sort of makes sense. One "master key" if you will as opposed to multiple keys to various bits here and there.

Either that or the higher ranks simply don't need them.

If you're a petty officer (speculation here, any Real Army People © feel free to correct me) you need to go places. Barracks, mess, engineering, you have places you need to be and things that need doing there. If you're a commanding officer you really only need to go to your quarters and the bridge; you have subordinates to do the legwork for you. If you need to go somewhere specific, you bring along the subordinate with the proper code.

Keeps the subordinates from getting into restricted stuff, and it keeps the officers under surveillance by their own men. They are all dependent on the organization which prevents sabotage and defection. An officer defects, but he can't get you into maintenance. A tech defects, but he can't get you into the bridge.

Compartmentalization and security, that's my theory.

Here's what Pablo had to say about the consistency of rank badges.

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/ghosts-of-geonosis-trivia-gallery

It seems the geonosian queen egg is the one from the Vader comic series, so that is one dead race of bugs.

That assumes they haven't had any more queens in the intervening years and didn't have the foresight to diversify their colonies.

Either that or the higher ranks simply don't need them.

Thrawn and Tarkin both have 4.

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/ghosts-of-geonosis-trivia-gallery

It seems the geonosian queen egg is the one from the Vader comic series, so that is one dead race of bugs.

That assumes they haven't had any more queens in the intervening years and didn't have the foresight to diversify their colonies.

Judging by the fact that her brood were half droid I'd imagine she was just tryng to keep the race alive at that point.

The Geonosians likely had colonies somewhere. In all honesty the fact that in Star Wars a spacefaring species doesn't have at least another colony world besides their native one is absurd especially considering how accessible space travel is. Like with Lasat.

I do not think the creators of either Vader or Rebels however were intending a connection between the two. In fact i'm fairly sure Rebels was trying to provide a way of letting the Geonosians survive and continue but Pablo Hidalgo for whatever reason decided to make that egg the egg of the Queen from Vader.

Honestly it actually is a retcon that irritates me because of how pointless it is. We didnt need that gap filled.

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

Just to bring the theme back with the bugs? I think the kids show is featuring genocide intentionally. And why not? It has some educational value.

Though with star wars technology every world is habitable if you just invest some effort. Heck, my little Verpine Pilot Klack is actually from a freaking asteroid belt, because his species "lost" their homeworld … well some say that the Roche Asteroid Belt is their homeworld. The deathstar is not the first planet buster either, nor ... well the empire keeps building those things. ;-)

Thing with the geonosians seems to be that they simply had some repulsion against leaving their homeworld. And against other aliens too it seemed. So they might indeed be extinct now. .And I do thing having this connection and putting closure to the geonosian species was not a bad move of Hidalgo.

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

Just to bring the theme back with the bugs? I think the kids show is featuring genocide intentionally. And why not? It has some educational value.

Though with star wars technology every world is habitable if you just invest some effort. Heck, my little Verpine Pilot Klack is actually from a freaking asteroid belt, because his species "lost" their homeworld … well some say that the Roche Asteroid Belt is their homeworld. The deathstar is not the first planet buster either, nor ... well the empire keeps building those things. ;-)

Thing with the geonosians seems to be that they simply had some repulsion against leaving their homeworld. And against other aliens too it seemed. So they might indeed be extinct now. .And I do thing having this connection and putting closure to the geonosian species was not a bad move of Hidalgo.

Well when it doesn't work the first time, or the second time, or the third time, you just know that the fourth time...that is the charm.

Funny enough, wasn't the whole Geonosians made the death star thing so that the Empire didn't have the issue from Clerks about the DS II? I could have sworn I heard it somewhere that it was okay for them to be building the death star only to die when it exploded, because they were just bugs.

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

Assuming the species ever wants to leave their homeworld. There is a scenario here where the species leaves the homeworld, doesn't find anywhere as inviting as their own home-planet, and uses the technological benefits to move production facilities and the like off-planet in order to make room for idyllic technology-enabled paradise. (Which for bugs consists of an underground city in a desert.)

Also, the allure of colonizing other worlds may be lesser in a galaxy where good planets are plentiful. Who would be the first generation of settlers? Would there be thirty? A thousand? If you want a change of scenery why not pick Coruscant or Another developed world. In a future this high-tech population growth is stable so colonization doesn't really need to be popular for the masses. Pioneers, prospectors, criminals, and so on would go colonize hostile worlds; but I think the majority of a species would still be found on their home-planet or within the system. Let's say 90% at home with the other 10% scattered throughout the stars.

Think about it this way. You could live on Earth; or you could live on an Earth-like planet a thousand light-years away from your friends, family, favorite shows, favorite foods, and easy access to proper medical treatment and law enforcement. Even if you have the Hypernet, it might be more appealing to pick a planet where people already live like another species's homeworld, or a pre-populated mining colony.

And let's say you have a choice now of hundreds of Earths. Do you really want to be the only human on Earth 213? That's just if their all Earth-like, we haven't even gone into the desolate crystalline wastes and swampy death-worlds yet.

Personally I think people on Earth want to go to space because we're overpopulated, surrounded by laws and rules, and alone in the universe. I think we want options, but only have earth to choose from. The people in SW have all the options in the galaxy, and I think most of them, after seeing the sights and touring around if they can afford it, choose to stay with the familiar.

Perhaps and I could buy that the vast majority of the species would stay on their own planet in an isolationist way. Rather like Hobbits. However you would have your Bilbos and Frodos who venture off. Outliers.

Also even if its not a desire to leave the planet there should be some backup plan for continuation of the species. Look at Earth. We have tons of doomsday peppers and people preparing for the apocalypse. If the Geonosians were smart and they seem to be highly intelligent at least one hive would keep a royal nursery set up on another world or somewhere off world or even deep within the surface. Especially after the two massive battles during the Clone Wars and definitely after Imperial occupation.

The Geonosians are bugs. They should be back on their feet in no time I have no doubts. The Empire may be good at exterminating them but even cockroaches manage to come back from the brink time after time.

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

Just to bring the theme back with the bugs? I think the kids show is featuring genocide intentionally. And why not? It has some educational value.

Also, the creators of Rebels didn't really have a choice about revisiting the genocide theme if they wanted to tie-in with the construction of the Death Star. The genocide of Geonosis was already canon before season 3.

I agree with the point about educational value, and I think the Ghosts of Geonosis episode handles the topic in a respectable manner.

Hey, calling Geonosians ''bugs'' is racist

Also people might forgett but between Ghosts of Geonosis and the Vader comics lie only a few years.
And the Queen doesn't seem to be able to birth ''normal'' Geonosians, they are a biomechanical construct, probably just to keep them alive.
And at that point I don't think that she'd be able to lay a healthy queen egg.

And without her Abdomen she probably won't be able to reproduce, no matter how creative she might be. So yeah, the Geonosians are quite extinct at this point.

I agree it should be difficult to exterminate a species in a galaxy with so many inhabitable worlds. Although the Geonosians have very different ecological needs from the average humanoid species. Also, the time in which a species became space faring would determine the availability of suitable worlds not already claimed by other interstellar races.

Lasat was a scapegoat so they didn't actually feature genocide on a kid's show. Oh look: secret homeworld we didn't know about! Amd only Zeb can lead us there!

Just to bring the theme back with the bugs? I think the kids show is featuring genocide intentionally. And why not? It has some educational value.

The tone of Rebels now is substantially more mature than the point when they made Zeb's feel-good "just kidding, Lasats aren't really extinct" episode. There were things I liked about that episode, but those are outnumbered by the aspects that make me cringe.

Also, the creators of Rebels didn't really have a choice about revisiting the genocide theme if they wanted to tie-in with the construction of the Death Star. The genocide of Geonosis was already canon before season 3.

I agree with the point about educational value, and I think the Ghosts of Geonosis episode handles the topic in a respectable manner.

Great Hondo stuff and the best music in Season Two make me forgive a lot of that episode...

Perhaps and I could buy that the vast majority of the species would stay on their own planet in an isolationist way. Rather like Hobbits. However you would have your Bilbos and Frodos who venture off. Outliers.

Also even if its not a desire to leave the planet there should be some backup plan for continuation of the species. Look at Earth. We have tons of doomsday peppers and people preparing for the apocalypse. If the Geonosians were smart and they seem to be highly intelligent at least one hive would keep a royal nursery set up on another world or somewhere off world or even deep within the surface. Especially after the two massive battles during the Clone Wars and definitely after Imperial occupation.

The Geonosians are bugs. They should be back on their feet in no time I have no doubts. The Empire may be good at exterminating them but even cockroaches manage to come back from the brink time after time.

Ce vrais'. (That's true.)

But remember genetics. A Bilbo here and a Frodo there do not a species make.

From what I've read you need at least 50 unrelated individuals in a single community to propagate the species without rampant genetic defects killing off the young. Even if two members find each other after the cataclysm it doesn't fix the problem. You'd have to have enough of those Bilbos trying to find others and fix things without succumbing to depression, isolation, or being caught by the race that caused the genocide in the first place looking for loose ends.

It's not that hard to cause the death of a species. We've done it on earth, and no I'm not talking about whales. We have on purpose wiped out several species of deadly parasites, diseases, and germs in the last few years, so quickly and thoroughly that they didn't have time to adapt. If we can do it to microbes, it follows that it would be much easier with larger creatures.

And it's even easier with the Geonosians, you don't have to kill every bug, you only have to kill/maim the queens. You could easily have a colony of Geonosian miners, mercs, etc, out in the galaxy but if they have no queen all they can do is slowly watch their race die.

Or call the Kaminoans. They could always do that.

Just a little add-on there are specific psychological aspects to consider, as well as species traits.

Humans tend to like to live in small groups; they're happiest in tight-knit communities and will sometimes seek a measure of isolation-with-friends if they get to a point where the size of their main group is overwhelming. Simply put, humans have "Wanderlust" in their racial character page.

Termites however, never leave the colony except when a new queen goes out to found a new colony. And unless one of those queens decided to leave the home planet, it's likely the lower-caste Geonosians died right next to their queens.

There are species like bees where every worker is female and one can be force-fed royal-queen-making mutagen if the existing queen dies unexpectedly, but since they made a big fuss about the Queen egg for the Geonosians I'm guessing they don't have that adaptation.

Read Before the Awakening. Rey remembers her parents. I'm pretty sure that discredits all Rey Skywalker theories. Yes the main Star Wars Saga is the Skywalker Saga, but we already have a Skywalker in the new generation: Ben Solo/Kylo Ren.

I keep tellin' people. Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin's force convergence.

She's not Vader's granddaughter. She IS Vader. That's why she's so connected to his light saber.

Well, that's not any lamer than Anakin's Immaculate Conception and Midichlorians.

I was rewatching the Clone Wars episode "Cat and Mouse" where we learn Wulf Yularen has a rivalry with the tarantula alien, Admiral Trench. In the episode an mportant plot point is Trench's symbol which is basically his head.

That same symbol is emblazoned on the pauldrons of the stormtroopers escorting Yularen in the new trailer. Its also on the droids Thrawn fights.

I get the sense that Yularen has adopted the symbol for himself.

Unless Trench is STILL alive.

"We're not done with Saw. Not by a long shot." ~Freddie on his stream, apparently.

Maybe we will see where did those feet go

"We're not done with Saw. Not by a long shot." ~Freddie on his stream, apparently.

Maybe we will see where did those feet go

They turn blue. One blue over here, the other blue over there.