STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

She does drop in effectiveness when pitted against Jedi though.

As Mandolorians always have.

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Block blaster bolts. + Attack aggressively. + Apply force when needed. = Dead Mando.

It's the lack of surviving Inquisitors that's making Sabine seem OP, plus the whole cast got an upgrade in offensive power once Kanan got burned.

Conservation of Ninjitsu people. Conservation of Ninjitsu.

Edited by OneKelvin

And though we see her fighting alongside Wedge, it's only during a training mission, and they literally split up the targets between them as wingmen would do. It's not unreasonable that she is good for a trainy pilot, she has a lot of real world experience. It's not like she can even fly a Tie Bomber.

Edited by Rodent Mastermind

And though we see her fighting alongside Wedge, it's only during a training mission, and they literally split up the targets between them as wingmen would do. It's not unreasonable that she is good for a trainy pilot, she has a lot of real world experience. It's not like she can even fly a Tie Bomber.

Yeah it is really nice to have a character that can do anything (piloting, gun fighting, acrobatics, hand to hand combat etc) in a show.

To be fair... It's not like Sabine is unique in being able to do all those things.

Being raised as a Mando means she would of received training in several forms of combat, and acrobatics isn't exactly a stretch for a martial arts master.

Plus it seems like fighter piloting is about as rare as having a driver's license in the US, and being a fighter pilot is only slightly more rare.

Plus it seems like fighter piloting is about as rare as having a driver's license in the US, and being a fighter pilot is only slightly more rare.

Hell, Farm Boy Luke - out in the ass end of nowhere in the galaxy, basically literally a poor dirt farmer - had a T-16 Skyhopper he flew and was apparently a decent enough shot with.

I suppose that follows in a galaxy where technology has more-or-less stagnated for millennia...

Being a good fighter pilot, however, seems to be something else... and the galaxy has rather lax recruiting requirements. Just look at the Rebels:

"So who's this new pilot that you want to send against the Death Star, the most critical mission that may doom our entire rebellion if we fail?"

"Well, we know he has his license, no academy training, he's a farmer... oh, but he rescued the Princess!"

"Was he piloting then?"

"Uh... no? But he knows Biggs!"

"Meh, good enough, give him an X-Wing."

Exhibit B: Phoenix Squadron

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Being a good fighter pilot, however, seems to be something else... and the galaxy has rather lax recruiting requirements. Just look at the Rebels:

"So who's this new pilot that you want to send against the Death Star, the most critical mission that may doom our entire rebellion if we fail?"

"Well, we know he has his license, no academy training, he's a farmer... oh, but he rescued the Princess!"

"Was he piloting then?"

"Uh... no? But he knows Biggs!"

"Meh, good enough, give him an X-Wing."

Not really "he knows Biggs", more like "Biggs knows him (and can vouch for him)".

Edited by eMeM

Well, you also have the fact that even though Sabine is Mandalorian, she also isn't the absolute best pilot the Rebels have. In the same sense, Fenn is a highly skilled ace, who nearly killed Hera, but doesn't seem as good as Sabine outside the cockpit. Even with Mandalorian training, each have areas where they excel and lack, it's just the level of training they have practically from birth make them more skilled the average person.

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About that, have we ever seen anyone (besides Sabine) taking a direct hit to the chest and/or the forehead and surviving? Mandos shooting at each other in TCW seem to drop dead or at least unconscious when hit.

To be fair, we don't get a lot of follow-up on the random Stormtroopers that get tagged so often.

It's entirely possible that their armor IS saving them, but that blaster bolts still knock them out.

Hell, maybe there are really only, like, seven Stormtroopers on Lothal.

They get knocked out

But they get up again

Every day they're all, like, "Ka-POW!"

Or something...

Maybe the only thing that saved Sabine's life was:

- Mandalorian armor

- The fact that she was using a hand blaster (as opposed to something that packs more firepower).

If Vader had returned a bowcaster type of bolt then we'd have a new opening in the Specter team.

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About that, have we ever seen anyone (besides Sabine) taking a direct hit to the chest and/or the forehead and surviving? Mandos shooting at each other in TCW seem to drop dead or at least unconscious when hit.

To be fair, we don't get a lot of follow-up on the random Stormtroopers that get tagged so often.

It's entirely possible that their armor IS saving them, but that blaster bolts still knock them out.

Hell, maybe there are really only, like, seven Stormtroopers on Lothal.

They get knocked out

But they get up again

You're never gonna keep them down?

It's been confirmed on screen in Rebels time and time again that many of the Stormtroopers who get shot with blasters survive, and are just stunned/unconscious. Just pay attention to the bodies and you'll typically see motion. Now, I don't believe this was true for much of The Clone Wars, but that's beside the point.

It's been confirmed on screen in Rebels time and time again that many of the Stormtroopers who get shot with blasters survive, and are just stunned/unconscious. Just pay attention to the bodies and you'll typically see motion. Now, I don't believe this was true for much of The Clone Wars, but that's beside the point.

Just like body armor in real life. It will stop the bullet, but the bullet still has kinetic energy, and if you're hit by something like say a 7.62 x 39 mm (AK-47 round), you are certainly not getting up anytime soon.

Edited by YwingAce

It's been confirmed on screen in Rebels time and time again that many of the Stormtroopers who get shot with blasters survive, and are just stunned/unconscious. Just pay attention to the bodies and you'll typically see motion. Now, I don't believe this was true for much of The Clone Wars, but that's beside the point.

Rex or Cody get shot by a sniper to the chest and the captain still survives.

Edited by SEApocalypse

How do you confuse Cody and Rex? One's an awesome undeveloped character, the others Rex. :P

It's been confirmed on screen in Rebels time and time again that many of the Stormtroopers who get shot with blasters survive, and are just stunned/unconscious. Just pay attention to the bodies and you'll typically see motion. Now, I don't believe this was true for much of The Clone Wars, but that's beside the point.

Rex or Cody get shot by a sniper to the chest and the captain still survives.

Thanks. As I said, it wasn't really true for much of the Clone Wars. But there were definitely instances like the one you posted where a character clearly survives being shot.

And the clone trooper armor is supposed to be vastly inferior to handcrafted mando armor. It still better than stormtrooper armor though.

Edited by SEApocalypse

Let's see how Mando Armour does against sticks and rocks.

The first thing Sabine probably did with her armour was to ditch the rocket pack. Those things will just get you either decapitated or flung into a giant sand ******.

Let's see how Mando Armour does against sticks and rocks.

The first thing Sabine probably did with her armour was to ditch the rocket pack. Those things will just get you either decapitated or flung into a giant sand ******.

Nah, she whines about not having a jetpack for some time now. And she is getting one this season anyway. ;-)

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About that, have we ever seen anyone (besides Sabine) taking a direct hit to the chest and/or the forehead and surviving? Mandos shooting at each other in TCW seem to drop dead or at least unconscious when hit.

Being a good fighter pilot, however, seems to be something else... and the galaxy has rather lax recruiting requirements. Just look at the Rebels:

"So who's this new pilot that you want to send against the Death Star, the most critical mission that may doom our entire rebellion if we fail?"

"Well, we know he has his license, no academy training, he's a farmer... oh, but he rescued the Princess!"

"Was he piloting then?"

"Uh... no? But he knows Biggs!"

"Meh, good enough, give him an X-Wing."

Not really "he knows Biggs", more like "Biggs knows him (and can vouch for him)".

Also, according to The Essential Guide To Warfare, Luke was a last minute replacement for Derek "Hobbie" Klivian at the Battle of Yavin.

The Injured Stormtrooper:

So what's with Sabine's jetpack deal?

Where did her jet boots go?

So what's with Sabine's jetpack deal?

Where did her jet boots go?

Sustained flight. How much propellant can you store in a boot, even if the motivation for it is electrical? Enough for spacewalk corrections, and brief strafes and jumps; but for sustainable atmospheric flight you either need a ton of electricity for fans, a ton of fuel for a jet, or a ton of propellant for a rocket. These gravity-fighting mechanisms take more space than a boot.

Though, speaking of gravity fighting mechanisms: I suspect the rocket is just for speed and primary thrust. The way the Mandos dance in the air, with no apparent maneuvering thrusters or stabilization rig, I'm willing to bet the jetpack hides an articulate antigravity unit much like the ones found in floating droids and STAPs.

So what's with Sabine's jetpack deal?

Where did her jet boots go?

Sustained flight. How much propellant can you store in a boot, even if the motivation for it is electrical? Enough for spacewalk corrections, and brief strafes and jumps; but for sustainable atmospheric flight you either need a ton of electricity for fans, a ton of fuel for a jet, or a ton of propellant for a rocket. These gravity-fighting mechanisms take more space than a boot.

Though, speaking of gravity fighting mechanisms: I suspect the rocket is just for speed and primary thrust. The way the Mandos dance in the air, with no apparent maneuvering thrusters or stabilization rig, I'm willing to bet the jetpack hides an articulate antigravity unit much like the ones found in floating droids and STAPs.

Repulsor engines, works for the boots too, jetpacks seem to have a much bigger range in altitude. In Star Wars everything has repulsors, even cargo containers and sofa cushions. Dirt cheap tech.